Craig Wright Satoshi Claim Case Update - page 3.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on March 31, 2024, 12:15:13 PM

IMO, the most important part has already happened. Namely, quoting the court document the op shared,

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COPA had established that Dr Wright was not Satoshi Nakamoto and had not been the creator of Bitcoin and the early materials.

That's a great judgement, and I'm really happy that the COPA managed to prove it in court (as they were the ones who had to prove Craig was fake, so if they simply hadn't had enough evidence, Craig would've won the case).
The rest, it seems, it about getting Craig to cover the cost of the trial, which amounts to £6 million. The judge recommends freezing Craigs assets to make sure the transfer will happen, and Craig is perhaps trying to evade.

That's probably very relieving for Calvin Ayre, who is said to be paying for everything in the fork of the forked shitcoin Bitcoin Cash SV project. The miners, the website, CoinGeek, the developers, the marketing are all paid with Calvin Ayre's money. I believe one by one they will leave Craig Wright's side and throw him into the fire if the government gos after them for their involvement with a con-artist. Roger Ver was by him fooled once. Nassim Taleb is still being fooled.

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Quote from: franky1 on March 29, 2024, 01:44:08 AM

Quote from: Myleschetty on March 28, 2024, 10:05:07 PM

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

by losing the case, he has to pay the lawyers costs of COPA, so they want to know his financial position (possibility of being paid £6.7m($8.5m))

12. Understandably, that gave rise to serious concerns on COPA’s part that Dr Wright was
implementing measures to seek to evade the costs consequences of his loss at trial.

I think he has already said he has millions because I saw in today's news headline that "U.K. court freezes £6M of Craig Wright’s assets amid Bitcoin creator claim"

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Quote from: Myleschetty on March 28, 2024, 10:05:07 PM

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.

I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.

Yes, we know Craig Wright is not Satoshi but what I don't understand is his real motive and the reason why he still has to lie under oath multiple times when he fully knows he can't win.
The question I always ask myself is that he's trying to be popular even though that's the fact there are ways to be popular rather than doing it dubiously.

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IMO, the most important part has already happened. Namely, quoting the court document the op shared,

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COPA had established that Dr Wright was not Satoshi Nakamoto and had not been the creator of Bitcoin and the early materials.

That's a great judgement, and I'm really happy that the COPA managed to prove it in court (as they were the ones who had to prove Craig was fake, so if they simply hadn't had enough evidence, Craig would've won the case).
The rest, it seems, it about getting Craig to cover the cost of the trial, which amounts to £6 million. The judge recommends freezing Craigs assets to make sure the transfer will happen, and Craig is perhaps trying to evade.

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Quote from: franky1 on March 29, 2024, 01:44:08 AM

speculation: (my thoughts on future maybe's)
seems they want to know how much he says he has, so maybe they can also sue him/charge him criminally for past issues
(EG when CSW funds are locked due to this case, they can quickly sue him and use the lock to ensure he pays future case)
but my dream scenario is they use the information to then take him to criminal court and set a bail amount for millions so that he cant just walk away from a criminal case

They should take him to the criminal court because if he gets left without punishment, then many people will abuse the system. It's idiotic that Craig Wright was able to waste so many years in court because. This is definitely the result of a loophole in the law. Because of this stupidity, Cobra had to remove Bitcoin whitepaper from bitcoin.org for UK people.

Quote from: ABCbits on March 29, 2024, 04:06:07 AM

Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/

Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).

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Quote from: Raflesia on March 29, 2024, 04:25:11 AM

Quote from: Myleschetty on March 28, 2024, 10:05:07 PM

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.

I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.

In fact, I think that he should be pushed to the very end. He needs to pay every last penny for the damage done to individuals and the community, and possibly deserves a substantial prison sentence for falsifying evidence, perjury, and more.

He is a scammer and should be punished for his crimes so that he can be an example to others.

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Quote from: franky1 on March 29, 2024, 01:44:08 AM

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speculation: (my thoughts on future maybe's)
seems they want to know how much he says he has, so maybe they can also sue him/charge him criminally for past issues
(EG when CSW funds are locked due to this case, they can quickly sue him and use the lock to ensure he pays future case)
but my dream scenario is they use the information to then take him to criminal court and set a bail amount for millions so that he cant just walk away from a criminal case

A long case, but in the end CSW only ended up with ridiculousness and fines to pay,
otherwise it would be criminal charges that would lead him further into the matter.

But I like the scenario you think, there has to be an emphasis on the amount of bail set so that he can't leave this criminal case peacefully, he really has to account for it.

Ever since I entered the crypto space, I have always been bombarded with news that CSW is Satoshi and openly claimed.
In 2015 after Wired and Gizmodo magazine raised the possibility of him being Nakamoto in a December 2015 article,
he was linked to the news about the real Satoshi, and it became his motivation to continue doxing that he was the real Satoshi, even though he was just a liar.

https://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on March 30, 2024, 09:16:18 PM

I'm still quite giddy being that Craig Wright was deemed to not be Satoshi according to a court of law. What amazes me about the whole Craig Wright ordeal is that he has/had fooled so many people in to believing it even though he didn't and can't prove it, because well he's not satoshi. Yet if you visit the BSV reddit or twitter page you'll see that there are actually a good amount of people supporting him even still, which is crazy.

Which goes to show there are a whole lot of stupid people in the world who are easily fooled.
That is why people are still wasting their money on crap like memecoins, NFTs, altcoins, etc.

So many people fall for romance scams, get rich quick schemes, etc. and end up losing their life savings to some scammer in Nigeria or India.

Billions of dollars are lost every year due to greed and stupidity. It never ceases to amaze me how gullible people are.

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I'm still quite giddy being that Craig Wright was deemed to not be Satoshi according to a court of law. What amazes me about the whole Craig Wright ordeal is that he has/had fooled so many people in to believing it even though he didn't and can't prove it, because well he's not satoshi. Yet if you visit the BSV reddit or twitter page you'll see that there are actually a good amount of people supporting him even still, which is crazy.

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I lost track of this case for some weeks. Great that CSW has been ruled against and assets frozen. It was about time someone really took him serious, his constant statements undermined Bitcoin and for how ridiculous they were, some actually believed it.

I can only hope this is the last we heard of him.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 28, 2024, 10:29:26 PM

It was already proven that he is indeed not satoshi nakamoto so he has a lot of explaining to do. He will be in even worse trouble if the money he has accumulated came from illegal activities. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes right now.

As soon as it became clear that he was not the real Satoshi Nakamoto, it raised some questions and he needed to give many explanations.

If the money found in his pocket could be determined to have been obtained by illegal means, he would be in deep trouble with the law. Whether the money is illegal or not, accepting donations from supporters who think he is Satoshi Nakamoto could raise ethical and legal questions.

From all the evidence, it is clear that Craig Wright is in trouble of a more complex nature. Revealing that he was not Satoshi Nakamoto meant he lost face, followers, and even his life savings. But not telling the truth could put him at greater risk of trial.

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Quote from: ABCbits on March 29, 2024, 04:06:07 AM

Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/

No matter the backing anyone has 6.2 million euros. It won't be a small amount of money for such a person and side that we are talking about the court case in which many Bitcoin enthusiasts are against Craig Wright. Besides, after this case is over we will see another cryptocurrency firm/enthusiast that will raise another charge against him because it's him against the millions of BTC supporters, and if care is not taken there's a chance for him to go bankrupt.

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Quote from: Pandji02 on March 29, 2024, 02:25:10 AM

True. I thought that it was over already, but I suppose this man is not going to give up. Still don't think that he's gonna convince anyone.

He's not going to get any success because a Faketoshi can't ever get the title of great Satoshi and that we all know, so no matter how hard he tried he'll still fall on his back.

This is going to be his last hope to make others believe that he's the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto, but I can clearly say that he'll fail once again like he has been failed many times in past.

Thomas Edison attempted many times to make the bulb and finally got success after so many failed attempts but this guy won't get success even with 100 thousand attempts.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on March 29, 2024, 02:46:12 PM

Craig Wright should be put in jail. Continually, he is lying again and again. For false evidence, he should be in jail, in my opinion. Singing a message from his Bitcoin address would make everything clear. If he claims it has been lost, then he isn't a Bitcoin creator. Because Bitcoin creators must know, losing wallet access means funds are gone. I believe Satoshi will never try to prove himself anyway; he won't fight for that. Because, actually, he doesn't want to reveal himself.

Faketoshis have already lost the case and the next phase is for him to pay for damages. Not only he could not produce the private keys to Satoshi's 1.1m Bitcoin but the claim that he authored the Bitcoin Whitepaper has been disputed since the copy he presented to the court was written with a software called LaTeX while the original white paper was written OpenOffice software. I think he would not be sent to prison but would pay a fine and will be mandated by the court to stop claiming that he is the inventor of Bitcoin.

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Craig Wright should be put in jail. Continually, he is lying again and again. For false evidence, he should be in jail, in my opinion. Singing a message from his Bitcoin address would make everything clear. If he claims it has been lost, then he isn't a Bitcoin creator. Because Bitcoin creators must know, losing wallet access means funds are gone. I believe Satoshi will never try to prove himself anyway; he won't fight for that. Because, actually, he doesn't want to reveal himself.

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Judge James Mellor ordered a worldwide freeze on 6 million pounds of Craig Wright's assets to pay COPA's legal costs.

www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/29/uk-judge-freezes-craig-wright-assets-to-prevent-him-evading-court-costs/

Hah! He can start a Gofundme to get his idiot supporters to pay for it.

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No one knows the real facts of Satoshi Nakamoto. Craig Wright is not Satoshi It's well known that you'll get into a lot of trouble for releasing false information like this. There are very detailed deep dives into the many personal aspects of the deception that Craig Wright does during his ever-failing quest to be recognized as someone he clearly isn't Satoshi Nakamoto. But it's fair to say that those long forms mostly cater to a niche audience. Craig will be charged with legal cases based on fraud.

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I will prefer that they they dig more deeper into craig case and his asset source maybe they will find something new and different to law suit against him and charge him, he never know the implication of this he has started not until he had the very best surprise of himself at the cause, people like him will think they can do something nasty and just get away with it like that, i trust US for things like this, if they wish, they can dig more concerning him and find something crook.

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Quote from: Myleschetty on March 28, 2024, 10:05:07 PM

In the High Court of Justice Business and Property of England and Wales yesterday COPA which is Crypto Open Patent Alliance the team formed by Square, Inc., Payward Ventures, Inc. (DBA Kraken), Microstrategy, Inc., and Coinbase, Inc.
Submitted a claim that Craig Wright lied and double-down on his lies, on a grand scale that he's Satoshi Nakamoto that he has given extensive and elaborate dishonest evidence under oath in multiple sets of proceedings, and also considers that he (Craig Wright) forged documents, plus changed his story several times.

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.

Do we really need to discuss this since for what I think there's a lot of people already know about this news and they already prove that Craig Wright is a total lier. He didn't succeed with his lies so now its better to buried up his name and he's not deserving to gain any further discussion since it will just hype his name again in other aspect. Better for people to stop mentioning his name so that he would be totally forgotten and if someone will remember him they will just think about he is the guy who lose in court for faking his claim that he is the great Satoshi Nakamoto. For sure he will be ashamed for that and maybe he don't want to remember this since he's been exposed for faking everything just for clout.

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Quote from: Myleschetty on March 28, 2024, 10:05:07 PM

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.

I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.

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Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/

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