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Topic: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say - page 20. (Read 31242 times)

legendary
Activity: 2702
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You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.


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edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.


hero member
Activity: 588
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Gloire à la Victoire !
Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

If you truly want someone to argue religion with, find a religion forum and bash them there. You're not going to find anyone with a sustainable argument if you post debates in irrelevant forums.

edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  


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Exactly. When you're dead you're dead. There's nothing else after that.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1055
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

We're intelligent? Have you thought yourself really?  

if for instance you were taught that killing is good you might just create a c4timer and bomb a damn building just to show you a good man.
see it all depends to how you were taught.. if you were taught to rape girls because its how it should be, you could probably rape a dozen of girls before resting like a bat hanging upside down if you were also taught its how you should rest.

Whene youre dead, its the end of your world. thats it end of story. you'll be forgetten after several years just like how you forgot tha name of your grandfather.,
sr. member
Activity: 448
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You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Lol. We "feel what's good and what's bad"? How comes there is not a universal moral then?
And you're judged by who? Base on which criterias? And how is Hell/Heaven physical? Eternity isn't a possible physical notion.
hero member
Activity: 588
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Gloire à la Victoire !
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?
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You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??
hero member
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I don't think gays should be parading their homosexuality in the streets for my children to watch and be indoctrinated with. I don't think anyone should parade anything and force their views on anyone. Including what you're doing now.

A Christian who doesn't want to force his beliefs on anyone?  That's new

Well most of them are rather quiet let's be honest Wink
member
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You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about.  

I was curious myself... I've never heard of a Christian denomination that doesn't believe in the Trinity dogma... news to me too

Perhaps he's a Muslim?

Muslim's believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they don't believe in that Trinity stuff... could that be why he got mad at me calling him a Christian?

I'm nothing, just a man trying to figure his place out in this life.

I have a moral code that closely resembles what the bible says, but the bible doesn't control my life.

I believe Jesus of Nazareth existed, his teachings of loving one another and living morally are powerful and moving.

I believe things in the bible happened, as it is a historical account of it's authors' lives.

I believe in condemning hateful behaviour. The thread started off looking like a discovery post, only to quickly turn into a hate-filled drive against anyone who thinks the bible is true.

Why are you trying to find something in me to attack?

Excuse me?  You have been doing nothing but attack since you showed up here

All I have done is provide facts which prove your claims to be false

Weren't you going to bed or something?

I was, but I can't stop thinking you guys are replying to me. Stop replying to me.

I don't see how any of this is related to Bitcoin anyway.
please stop this non-sense this isn't related to bitcoin please stop if you want debate go to other forums okay??
member
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You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about.  

I was curious myself... I've never heard of a Christian denomination that doesn't believe in the Trinity dogma... news to me too

Perhaps he's a Muslim?

Muslim's believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they don't believe in that Trinity stuff... could that be why he got mad at me calling him a Christian?

I'm nothing, just a man trying to figure his place out in this life.

I have a moral code that closely resembles what the bible says, but the bible doesn't control my life.

I believe Jesus of Nazareth existed, his teachings of loving one another and living morally are powerful and moving.

I believe things in the bible happened, as it is a historical account of it's authors' lives.

I believe in condemning hateful behaviour. The thread started off looking like a discovery post, only to quickly turn into a hate-filled drive against anyone who thinks the bible is true.

Why are you trying to find something in me to attack?

Excuse me?  You have been doing nothing but attack since you showed up here

All I have done is provide facts which prove your claims to be false

Weren't you going to bed or something?

I was, but I can't stop thinking you guys are replying to me. Stop replying to me.

I don't see how any of this is related to Bitcoin anyway.
hero member
Activity: 798
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You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about.  

I was curious myself... I've never heard of a Christian denomination that doesn't believe in the Trinity dogma... news to me too

Perhaps he's a Muslim?

Muslim's believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they don't believe in that Trinity stuff... could that be why he got mad at me calling him a Christian?

I'm nothing, just a man trying to figure his place out in this life.

I have a moral code that closely resembles what the bible says, but the bible doesn't control my life.

I believe Jesus of Nazareth existed, his teachings of loving one another and living morally are powerful and moving.

I believe things in the bible happened, as it is a historical account of it's authors' lives.

I believe in condemning hateful behaviour. The thread started off looking like a discovery post, only to quickly turn into a hate-filled drive against anyone who thinks the bible is true.

Why are you trying to find something in me to attack?

Excuse me?  You have been doing nothing but attack since you showed up here

All I have done is provide facts which prove your claims to be false

Weren't you going to bed or something?
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about.  

I was curious myself... I've never heard of a Christian denomination that doesn't believe in the Trinity dogma... news to me too

Perhaps he's a Muslim?

Muslim's believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they don't believe in that Trinity stuff... could that be why he got mad at me calling him a Christian?

I'm nothing, just a man trying to figure his place out in this life.

I have a moral code that closely resembles what the bible says, but the bible doesn't control my life.

I believe Jesus of Nazareth existed, his teachings of loving one another and living morally are powerful and moving.

I believe things in the bible happened, as it is a historical account of it's authors' lives.

I believe in condemning hateful behaviour. The thread started off looking like a discovery post, only to quickly turn into a hate-filled drive against anyone who thinks the bible is true.

Why are you trying to find something in me to attack?
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 722
You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about.  

I was curious myself... I've never heard of a Christian denomination that doesn't believe in the Trinity dogma... news to me too

Perhaps he's a Muslim?

Muslim's believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they don't believe in that Trinity stuff... could that be why he got mad at me calling him a Christian?
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about. 
hero member
Activity: 798
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You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
You kids need to grow up.

Read the book, come back we'll talk about. 

Take care.
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You kids need to grow up.
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