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Credit card gambling is like ATM in casinos, they are there so you can spend (lose) more money, the only way you need to use it or it can be usefull is when its your only payment method.

Nothing is more idiot than have a debt for gambling, if you take a loan to gamble, man you are in big problems.
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         -   As long as you use a credit card responsibly, you are aware that it is truly convenient to do so. Other people—those who merely boast about themselves and believe they never run out of money—use credit cards for unnecessary expenses.

When a gambler adopts this method, it's like he approaches a crocodile and asks it to consume everything that will benefit him. This is the worst kind of technique that other people utilize. Therefore, a gambler should strive to avoid using it on a regular basis; even if you try it, stop.
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The credit card in the gambling was recently banned by the Australia government,the reason behind this was the usage of the credit card by the children of the gambler.Since the kids along with the parents,the parent can’t monitor their children fully.Some point the government move was god,but it will indirectly promote the crypto based casino and reduce the fiat based casino.The merge of credit cards allow the gamblers to use the credit cards for the many time till their limit of the card in the gambling addiction after some loss.This was cause due to the addiction to retrieve the loss by targeting on the upcoming game.
It is a good move to ban credit cards for gambling because using a credit card means they will be free to deposit money from their credit card into their gambling account. And they can gamble whenever they want, which will put them at risk when their credit card bill comes. It can also trigger addiction because the freedom they get from their credit card, which can be used to deposit money at any time, makes them feel there is no obstacle to gambling. The government's steps are right because they can ban the use of credit cards, but the government also has to think about other things when gamblers switch to using crypto to gamble.

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Its like what you do on your spending habits on buying things that you want then swipe your card for payments you will decide to use continuously because you feel no any guilt with that. And same on gambling for sure gamblers use that will came to the point that they will never think about what they do or the amount they spend since in the middle of climax while playing for sure they will swipe more until they get satisfied. Later on they realize that they are near to their limits or worse they already exceed because the processors will not accept their card because of that reasons.

Although not all will experience this situation, but most likely this scenario really happen that's why its better not to use our credit card while betting so that we will have guilt feeling while depositing some amount on those casinos.
Yes, you are right because by using a credit card, they will not think that their money will run out. As long as the credit card limit has not been reached, they can still deposit money to gamble, which is the risk they will face if they use their credit card. And that will make them return to gambling more often because they can deposit their money again easily and immediately gamble.

That's why we don't need a credit or debit card to gamble because it will be riskier. We should make a budget for gambling and stick to these rules to avoid the problem of gambling addiction or the desire to chase victory. We can also be calmer because we don't have to think about the credit card bills coming to us at the end of the month.
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I don't know how deep the debt on credit card gambling is today until I do my own research and mehn, and it's very sad, many people are in debt because they keep using their credit cards to fund their gambling hunger.

Unfortunately, it is their own choice. Or, you could look at it that they have had little to no control and that they were exploited. However you choose to see it, this is the consequence of allowing the mix of credit with gambling.

Imagine someone you know telling you that it will take him 12 years to pay off his debt, I now know why few countries don't want their citizens to gamble using their credit cards,  betting on credit cards has left too many people in thousands of debt.

It comes to a point where you must ask, why didn't they stop at 5 years of debt? Or 1 year of debt? Or 0? How far must it go before it is someones fault, rather than their mistake?

Which makes me think that Credit card is far more helping to fuel gambling addiction more than anything else, you don't actually have the money, but you can still gamble, this alone will make people to lose their minds and gamble anyhow.

Certainly. Credit is not cash, it's not visible, it's easily accessible for some. It's definitely something that could fuel addiction.


I'm glad I don't even like using Credit cards for gambling and my reason isn't even because of possible reckless gambling but because I don't like centralized payment solutions, you should stay away from using Credit card to gamble online, it sure would easily throw you out in the street, homeless.

Keep it that way Smiley
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I actually don’t have negative opinion about using credit card for gambling. Although it would make you easily overspend and become doomed to debt, but hey if you gamble responsibly, things like this will be avoided. So I don’t agree with banning credit cards for gambling, instead it would be more reasonable to ban those gamblers who always gamble without caution. Even if you use fiat, as long as you don’t know how to control your funds, you will still end up with a huge debt and worst become homeless.

Yeah using a credit card won't be an issue if it is used responsibly. I think gamblers get addicted to it because it is very easy to access money that you might not actually have. The first time I actually used a credit card, I was amazed because it was so easy to spend the money! This can lead to impulsive and excessive gambling and gamblers might not feel the consequences right away. They'll only feel it once their debts pile up. And credit cards often charge high interest rates. People should find healthier ways to sustain their gambling habits.
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For example, let's say a gambler has a budget of $1,000 and a credit card limit of $2,500. This person will first lose his/her budget of 1,000 USD in gambling and then lose his/her credit card limit of 2,500 USD. After this, if the person has no income during the account statement period this person will lose both his own money and credit card limit and will have to pay the interest on his/her credit card debt. That is the potential loss amount will not be just the amount spent on gambling.
that's why it's highly recommended not to use a credit card because it's not a good way to gamble, even some countries have banned the use of credit cards on gambling sites and it's best to use crypto money or other cash, always just use money that we're ready to lose and don't too greedy to play with big money, especially by going into debt using a credit card.

Even though playing with the little money you have is not a problem as long as it can make you enjoy gambling, after all, if you gamble using it, it is certain that in addition to paying debts you will also pay quite a lot of interest costs, my advice is never to use a credit card to gamble no matter how big you feel. If you want to gamble, you should ignore that feeling. If you don't have cash, you should do other activities or gather with your family to divert that feeling.
Gambling with a credit card is one of the easiest ways for a gambler to become a gambling addict because it's definitely gonna make the concerned person to gamble beyond his daily or weekly gambling limits. When someone wants to gamble, there's always an already stipulated limit that's been put in place by that same person so it'll help him regulate himself and stop whenever the limit is reached. But when one is gambling with his debit card, and unfortunately happens to lose until his limit is reached, he'll continue to gamble in other to recover the already lost money and until all the funds in his debit card is finished, he'll continue to gamble.
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Credit card gambling is not smart, as always you should only gamble with money you can afford to lose. Any good bookie will promote responsible gambling but it is the punters responsibility to manage their own funds and budget properly.

Gambling should be fun, putting it on a credit card is an awful idea. The moment it stops becoming fun is the moment to walk away. Consider putting weekly deposit limits on your accounts.
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For example, let's say a gambler has a budget of $1,000 and a credit card limit of $2,500. This person will first lose his/her budget of 1,000 USD in gambling and then lose his/her credit card limit of 2,500 USD. After this, if the person has no income during the account statement period this person will lose both his own money and credit card limit and will have to pay the interest on his/her credit card debt. That is the potential loss amount will not be just the amount spent on gambling.
that's why it's highly recommended not to use a credit card because it's not a good way to gamble, even some countries have banned the use of credit cards on gambling sites and it's best to use crypto money or other cash, always just use money that we're ready to lose and don't too greedy to play with big money, especially by going into debt using a credit card.

Even though playing with the little money you have is not a problem as long as it can make you enjoy gambling, after all, if you gamble using it, it is certain that in addition to paying debts you will also pay quite a lot of interest costs, my advice is never to use a credit card to gamble no matter how big you feel. If you want to gamble, you should ignore that feeling. If you don't have cash, you should do other activities or gather with your family to divert that feeling.
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Credit cards fuel every kind of purchasing addiction out there. Women buy make-up products, men buy more home depot stuff, kids buy more junk food, alcoholics buy more booze, investors buy more stocks and finally gamblers buy more game chips. We can’t really do about it since credit cards a part of the financial system. The good thing is, the interest rates are so high right now, it doesn’t make any sense to borrow money unless you are very desperate. In this environment, borrowing money is a quick way to get poor or worse, bankrupt.

Unfortunately, credit cards are a borrowing method that each person uses according to their own habits as you stated due to their structure. Although it is necessary to interpret it according to the needs of the person, unfortunately credit cards are a bad payment method for many gamblers because it allows the person to easily access money and lose more money in gambling. Of course, nothing has a limit but while a child wouldn't use a credit card to buy $10,000 worth of snacks per month but a gambler wouldn't mind gambling that amount. Similarly, an alcoholic will not spend this amount to consume alcoholic beverages but the gambler will still spend this amount quickly. Of course, nothing is impossible but if we compare certain examples with certain restrictions using a credit card for gambling is more risky than all other factors.

For example, let's say a gambler has a budget of $1,000 and a credit card limit of $2,500. This person will first lose his/her budget of 1,000 USD in gambling and then lose his/her credit card limit of 2,500 USD. After this, if the person has no income during the account statement period this person will lose both his own money and credit card limit and will have to pay the interest on his/her credit card debt. That is the potential loss amount will not be just the amount spent on gambling.
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What stops gambler from using debit card, and when its balance turns zero, go out, take a loan, make a deposit and continue gambling with someone else money? What stops gambler from taking a loan? Or selling stuff, or using pawnshops to get money?
Do you think it's easy to get a loan from financial institutions? No.
Do you think people will just lend their hard earned money that easily? Most people wouldn't since they have their own money problems to solve.

My point from raising those questions is that nothing stops them from asking for a loan but he'll have a harder time getting that money to use in gambling. The more roadblocks there is then the likelihood that he'll slowdown on his gambling increases.

You also mentioned the use of debit card and selling or pawing stuff. That's still better since he won't be putting himself into a bigger debt compared to using credit cards as explained in part by Casdinyard here

That's why Australia banned credit cards from being used for gambling.

The illusion that it gives you where you think you still have enough money to get around when what you're really doing is putting yourself into a bigger debt is the biggest reason why credit card gambling is such a massive issue. You gamble belligerently without a single care in the world and next thing you know, you're thousands of dollars deep in debt and you've wasted your whole life away chasing the high of winning big. Plus it doesn't help that scammers could get a hold of your credit card info and use it to their advantage as well.

I don't think there's no good reason why credit card gambling should be allowed, if you can't afford to gamble in the first place you shouldn't even gamble at all, that's just a simple fucking concept.

Then ban credit cards at all, force people to spend only their own money, or do something with gambling addiction. I think you agree that credit card is only one of the instruments that is used to get money from for gambling. We are living in world of balance. A ban "not your money" in form of credit card, and the other form "not your money" will be used in gambling. And think about that from the point of view that credit cards turnover can be controlled.

Bank all the banks in the end, because they create illusion that you have enough money with credit cards, loan, mortgage and etc. Ban is not the best solution in that case. For example alcohol also causes a lot of troubles, why not ban it either? Instead we have limitation, such as age or time (not selling alcohol after 22:00 for example).
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September 28, 2023, 06:27:46 AM
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I don't know how deep the debt on credit card gambling is today until I do my own research and mehn, and it's very sad, many people are in debt because they keep using their credit cards to fund their gambling hunger.
When typical man is addicted to gambling he looks for other sources after losing his hard earned money. He has to find various ways to finance his gambling. When there is no other way to collect gambling money they think of using their credit card to gamble even with high interest rates. It is not difficult for a gambler to do anything if he loses control over himself. But I personally think people can get addicted so gambling by credit card should not be allowed. This will lead to major disasters in the lives of those gamblers that will be difficult to recover.
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September 28, 2023, 06:10:31 AM
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I'm not really much in favor of using credit card as payment method for gambling. Sure, it provides convenience and ease of use for the gamblers, but it also paves way to irresponsible gambling habits build via repeated routine. It will just really keep you on the lowest of lows. To begin with, if you don't have enough money to fund your vices, then you shouldn't really be gambling at all. Because you should only spend what you can afford to lose. And losing something you don't even possess is plain stupidity and a headache to happen. Hence, I'm not really surprised that some countries prohibits the usage of credit cards for gambling. There are still other cards that can be used such as debit card that can still provide accessibility.
Yes it is true, debit card would make sense because you are gambling with your money and that still makes sense but if you are gambling with credit card that means you are gambling with money that you do not have, and if you lose then you may have trouble paying it back.

Banks have no joke, if you fail to pay your debt, they will seize everything they can to pay that, and they do not take it at face value, they take it from resale value which means that they are going to drop some even from that and you are going to basically pay a ton more than what you could have, it's even better to sell those stuff yourself and pay them back. Basically, it's better to avoid something like that whenever you can, that would make more sense.
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September 28, 2023, 05:44:43 AM
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I actually don’t have negative opinion about using credit card for gambling. Although it would make you easily overspend and become doomed to debt, but hey if you gamble responsibly, things like this will be avoided. So I don’t agree with banning credit cards for gambling, instead it would be more reasonable to ban those gamblers who always gamble without caution. Even if you use fiat, as long as you don’t know how to control your funds, you will still end up with a huge debt and worst become homeless.
It's different, when you're gamble using credit card, most of the time you will not feel how much you've spent because you think you have a lot money.

But when you're gamble using fiat, you're aware about how much you've spent and it's up to you whether you still want to continue or not. There's a possibility you can gamble using loan, but that's your choice and the risk you need to face.
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September 28, 2023, 05:19:07 AM
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I actually don’t have negative opinion about using credit card for gambling. Although it would make you easily overspend and become doomed to debt, but hey if you gamble responsibly, things like this will be avoided. So I don’t agree with banning credit cards for gambling, instead it would be more reasonable to ban those gamblers who always gamble without caution. Even if you use fiat, as long as you don’t know how to control your funds, you will still end up with a huge debt and worst become homeless.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong if we use a credit card to gamble and if we lose we are able to pay off the credit card payment bill because after we use a credit card, I think only some people can gamble by controlling themselves so they don't become addicted. When gambling, we really need to be able to control ourselves and not gamble uncontrollably so that we cannot enjoy our gambling.
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September 28, 2023, 04:30:16 AM
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I actually don’t have negative opinion about using credit card for gambling. Although it would make you easily overspend and become doomed to debt, but hey if you gamble responsibly, things like this will be avoided. So I don’t agree with banning credit cards for gambling, instead it would be more reasonable to ban those gamblers who always gamble without caution. Even if you use fiat, as long as you don’t know how to control your funds, you will still end up with a huge debt and worst become homeless.
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September 28, 2023, 04:12:58 AM
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Maybe because by using credit card for depositing you cannot feel guilt then continue to deposit when you are continuously losing. Unlike you use your own personal funds where you slowly start to doubt when you see that your money is starting to became more lesser. Although we can't entirely blame this on credit card because its still up on the attitude of the gambler since if he's careless on his credit card finances for sure he will just end up getting max out his all credits. But if he is well discipline man for sure even if he use credit card no excessive putting some risky bets and deposits on their end then they will be more careful placing their bets also the amount they used on their credit card for deposit.

Addiction can be trigger on any situation so its not all about the usage of credit card but how people handle his self on his gambling habits.
If they don't feel guilty when making a deposit using a credit card, it will harm them because they can use a lot of money. They can easily deposit another amount when the money runs out, and it seems as if the credit card has no limit so they continue to use their credit card. That is why using a credit or debit card is not recommended because it can make people forget themselves and deposit their money many times if they lose when gambling.

It can also trigger gambling addiction because they can still deposit money to gamble as long as the credit card limit has not been reached. They really have to cut up their credit cards so they can't use them for things they don't need.

Its like what you do on your spending habits on buying things that you want then swipe your card for payments you will decide to use continuously because you feel no any guilt with that. And same on gambling for sure gamblers use that will came to the point that they will never think about what they do or the amount they spend since in the middle of climax while playing for sure they will swipe more until they get satisfied. Later on they realize that they are near to their limits or worse they already exceed because the processors will not accept their card because of that reasons.

Although not all will experience this situation, but most likely this scenario really happen that's why its better not to use our credit card while betting so that we will have guilt feeling while depositing some amount on those casinos.
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September 27, 2023, 10:55:47 PM
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When you use a credit card for gambling, your credit card balance will definitely be in jeopardy. What's even worse is that the money you gambled with even came from a bank loan. This is just one of the effects of addiction. When you actually use it, you feel like you will never run out of money, but the truth is that you will end up in debt.

This approach is a wrong move and can be said to be the most stupid thing anyone will do. Although it's not my money, it's obviously not the right way.
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September 27, 2023, 09:32:55 PM
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What stops gambler from using debit card, and when its balance turns zero, go out, take a loan, make a deposit and continue gambling with someone else money? What stops gambler from taking a loan? Or selling stuff, or using pawnshops to get money?
Do you think it's easy to get a loan from financial institutions? No.
Do you think people will just lend their hard earned money that easily? Most people wouldn't since they have their own money problems to solve.

My point from raising those questions is that nothing stops them from asking for a loan but he'll have a harder time getting that money to use in gambling. The more roadblocks there is then the likelihood that he'll slowdown on his gambling increases.

You also mentioned the use of debit card and selling or pawing stuff. That's still better since he won't be putting himself into a bigger debt compared to using credit cards as explained in part by Casdinyard here

That's why Australia banned credit cards from being used for gambling.

The illusion that it gives you where you think you still have enough money to get around when what you're really doing is putting yourself into a bigger debt is the biggest reason why credit card gambling is such a massive issue. You gamble belligerently without a single care in the world and next thing you know, you're thousands of dollars deep in debt and you've wasted your whole life away chasing the high of winning big. Plus it doesn't help that scammers could get a hold of your credit card info and use it to their advantage as well.

I don't think there's no good reason why credit card gambling should be allowed, if you can't afford to gamble in the first place you shouldn't even gamble at all, that's just a simple fucking concept.
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September 27, 2023, 06:54:03 PM
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That's why Australia banned credit cards from being used for gambling.

The illusion that it gives you where you think you still have enough money to get around when what you're really doing is putting yourself into a bigger debt is the biggest reason why credit card gambling is such a massive issue. You gamble belligerently without a single care in the world and next thing you know, you're thousands of dollars deep in debt and you've wasted your whole life away chasing the high of winning big. Plus it doesn't help that scammers could get a hold of your credit card info and use it to their advantage as well.

I don't think there's no good reason why credit card gambling should be allowed, if you can't afford to gamble in the first place you shouldn't even gamble at all, that's just a simple fucking concept.
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September 27, 2023, 02:46:13 PM
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If truly you've get to know people that can't ever pay their debts because the amount is enormous for them then why are you saying that paying debt for 12 years is exaggerated? In what way? Everyone knows how much they make every month, and paying back what they owe is coming from how much they make monthly, this is no exaggeration.
While it's just your example but I do find it exaggerated because if someone who takes a credit card and was able to reach up to 12 years of paying it, I don't think the bank would allow unless that gambler have left that debt for so long and ignoring his obligation.

But if it's not exaggeration to you, that's fine, we're just up to discussion and we've got different opinions about it.

This fellow have wasted 30k on gambling, and he has 28,800$ left to pay back, he made not less than $300 per month, and he said he can only pay $200 back every month, do the math yourself, $200 in twelve months is $2400 and in the next 12 years that is $28,800$, I was ridiculed because of this problem he invited into his life.
That fellow, as you've said, we all know how much we make but that guy is different and probably saw himself unguarded during that time.

I advised him to try making extra earnings, 12 years isn't a joke as he will end up working for the long term only to pay back his debt, what about his life? I advised him to figure out how to earn more money monthly because that's the only solution I can think of, it's not exaggeration,  it's something that's still fresh.
Yup, that isn't a joke and that's why I thought of it as exaggerated but if that's not really an example and true to life. Your advice to him is right, getting more source of income and work for it. That's the only way he can get out of that debt.

On his end, that's an exaggeration but he asked for and did it on his own so, he has to pay for it.
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