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Quote from: justdimin on December 19, 2022, 04:10:58 PM

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As we all know that Ramiz Raja's stance was very clear that if India comes to Pakistan to play in the Asia Cup, only then Pakistan will send its cricket team to India to play in the World Cup 2023.

"We won't go if they don't come"

But now according to some news (s) Rameez Raja will be removed as PCB chairman. And most likely the new PCB chairman will be Najam Sethi (current govt's puppet)

News link: https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/21012-ramiz-raja-likely-to-be-removed-as-pcb-chairman-sources

So the question is, will the new chairman also take this stand?

Even right now, with the current Pakistani situation I have doubt Ramiz Raja is going to remove but in case current government done this all then surely it's going to be big setback for the Pakistan game and purely this will be political based because current government is clearly doing all things which were not allowed in Imran Khan regime, so they are clearly favouring all things which are bringing Pakistan more down in many ways specially having stance like this is clearly alarming that current authorities never want any clear stance about this all, and they want to allow Pakistan for having tour to India for the World Cup.

If Pakistan has Najam Sethi as their next PCB chairman then surely Pakistan will visit India and India will be also not visiting Pakistan for the Asia Cup or this event will be transferred from Pakistan to any other country.

So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?

If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.

I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

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Quote from: posi on December 22, 2022, 02:18:01 PM

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I thought it was a really bad move by the ICC. Reducing the fund for associate countries was absolutely the road to make. ICC absolutely did not understand that if new teams are not interested in cricket, the money that is going to be generated is eventually going to be reduced. 10–15 teams are only going to be able to generate so much revenue.

If ICC have unlimited funds they would be sending plenty of money to every country, it is business after all and they are providing a grand to develop the sport and consider them as bonus.

Quote from: posi on December 22, 2022, 02:18:01 PM

At least there should be 30 teams playing cricket regularly. And in the World Cup, we should also be able to see at least 25 to 30 teams competing against each other. But instead, we get a World Cup that is played by 15 teams maximum. And a few old teams are losing its way because of not having enough funds. Even though it does not feel like Cricket is dying right now, I can assure you that cricket will be dying very soon if this continues.

Hope you understand that increasing the number of teams alone will not bring in the revenue, you need people to watch the sport as well and if that was the case we would not be talking about revenues other countries are getting in the first place Grin

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 21, 2022, 10:52:27 PM

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Due to poor management of ICC cricket quality is going down badly with mostly countries are having no structure and no assistance which is needed here we have very good things from FIFA for the soccer development but sadly in ICC no one interested in development, and mostly we have issues just for the spread of funds and secondly now in few countries cricket is having not good marketing as well but with the introduction of The hundred, T10 and T20 we can do few things better which will increase popularity and business as well but foremost we need a solid policy and management from ICC top members specially Pig-3 needs to be more concerned about this game or give equal rights to all boards as well Netherlands re-entry is good, and they can do better this time which could be good for the game in European region.

This has been debated many times before, and I don't know whether we can expect any changes. Fund allocation for associate members were reduced by more than 60% during the 2015-23 cycle, and this effectively killed cricket in countries such as Kenya, Nepal and Netherlands. On top of that, the funding model was redistributed, giving preference to teams with foreign players such as United States, United Arab Emirates and Oman. And finally since cricket is not an Olympic sports, none of these smaller countries receive any grants or loans from their respective governments.

I thought it was a really bad move by the ICC. Reducing the fund for associate countries was absolutely the road to make. ICC absolutely did not understand that if new teams are not interested in cricket, the money that is going to be generated is eventually going to be reduced. 10–15 teams are only going to be able to generate so much revenue. At least there should be 30 teams playing cricket regularly. And in the World Cup, we should also be able to see at least 25 to 30 teams competing against each other. But instead, we get a World Cup that is played by 15 teams maximum. And a few old teams are losing its way because of not having enough funds. Even though it does not feel like Cricket is dying right now, I can assure you that cricket will be dying very soon if this continues.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on December 21, 2022, 03:16:34 PM

Due to poor management of ICC cricket quality is going down badly with mostly countries are having no structure and no assistance which is needed here we have very good things from FIFA for the soccer development but sadly in ICC no one interested in development, and mostly we have issues just for the spread of funds and secondly now in few countries cricket is having not good marketing as well but with the introduction of The hundred, T10 and T20 we can do few things better which will increase popularity and business as well but foremost we need a solid policy and management from ICC top members specially Pig-3 needs to be more concerned about this game or give equal rights to all boards as well Netherlands re-entry is good, and they can do better this time which could be good for the game in European region.

This has been debated many times before, and I don't know whether we can expect any changes. Fund allocation for associate members were reduced by more than 60% during the 2015-23 cycle, and this effectively killed cricket in countries such as Kenya, Nepal and Netherlands. On top of that, the funding model was redistributed, giving preference to teams with foreign players such as United States, United Arab Emirates and Oman. And finally since cricket is not an Olympic sports, none of these smaller countries receive any grants or loans from their respective governments.

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Quote from: posi on December 21, 2022, 01:04:04 PM

Netherlands could do well in cricket if both they and the ICC were concerned about their performance. I really do not think that the ICC actually cares about Netherlands cricket at all anymore.

There is no doubt that not having enough interest in cricket has also affected the performance of Netherlands cricket team as well.

Not having enough money is also something that inspired the young generation to not take cricket as a profession. Now it is being played by foreign players in Netherlands cricket team. Very few native players in Netherlands team are actively playing cricket as their main profession.

Due to poor management of ICC cricket quality is going down badly with mostly countries are having no structure and no assistance which is needed here we have very good things from FIFA for the soccer development but sadly in ICC no one interested in development, and mostly we have issues just for the spread of funds and secondly now in few countries cricket is having not good marketing as well but with the introduction of The hundred, T10 and T20 we can do few things better which will increase popularity and business as well but foremost we need a solid policy and management from ICC top members specially Pig-3 needs to be more concerned about this game or give equal rights to all boards as well Netherlands re-entry is good, and they can do better this time which could be good for the game in European region.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 20, 2022, 10:15:29 PM

Quote from: BobK71 on December 20, 2022, 11:34:56 AM

Netherlands has been playing cricket for a long time but there is no improvement in their game. There are various reasons behind this. Notable among them is that the residents do not take cricket very seriously. As a result there is no interest among newcomers. If new cricketers are not created then it is not possible to expect improvement in cricket. It is not possible to select good cricketers where there are no cricketers. If the attraction of cricket among the local people can be increased then it is possible to improve their cricket. But another thing is to note that if they can't do anything in cricket, they are trying to do better, which can be considered as a positive aspect.

The history of cricket in Netherlands is older than that in India. They have some of the oldest cricket clubs in the world. But two decades of apathy from the ICC has taken it's toll. The popularity of cricket went down by a lot since 2000. Now it is increasingly being viewed as a sport played by the expats. You can find the same pattern in the neighboring countries such as Danmark as well. Scotland and Ireland escaped this trap. The latter improved their cricket as a result of inflow of additional funds from the ICC ever since they got the test status, while the former do have some very competent administrators who cared about cricket.

Netherlands could do well in cricket if both they and the ICC were concerned about their performance. I really do not think that the ICC actually cares about Netherlands cricket at all anymore.

There is no doubt that not having enough interest in cricket has also affected the performance of Netherlands cricket team as well.

Not having enough money is also something that inspired the young generation to not take cricket as a profession. Now it is being played by foreign players in Netherlands cricket team. Very few native players in Netherlands team are actively playing cricket as their main profession.

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 20, 2022, 11:34:56 AM

Netherlands has been playing cricket for a long time but there is no improvement in their game. There are various reasons behind this. Notable among them is that the residents do not take cricket very seriously. As a result there is no interest among newcomers. If new cricketers are not created then it is not possible to expect improvement in cricket. It is not possible to select good cricketers where there are no cricketers. If the attraction of cricket among the local people can be increased then it is possible to improve their cricket. But another thing is to note that if they can't do anything in cricket, they are trying to do better, which can be considered as a positive aspect.

The history of cricket in Netherlands is older than that in India. They have some of the oldest cricket clubs in the world. But two decades of apathy from the ICC has taken it's toll. The popularity of cricket went down by a lot since 2000. Now it is increasingly being viewed as a sport played by the expats. You can find the same pattern in the neighboring countries such as Danmark as well. Scotland and Ireland escaped this trap. The latter improved their cricket as a result of inflow of additional funds from the ICC ever since they got the test status, while the former do have some very competent administrators who cared about cricket.

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 20, 2022, 11:34:56 AM

Netherlands has been playing cricket for a long time but there is no improvement in their game. There are various reasons behind this. Notable among them is that the residents do not take cricket very seriously. As a result there is no interest among newcomers. If new cricketers are not created then it is not possible to expect improvement in cricket. It is not possible to select good cricketers where there are no cricketers. If the attraction of cricket among the local people can be increased then it is possible to improve their cricket. But another thing is to note that if they can't do anything in cricket, they are trying to do better, which can be considered as a positive aspect.

Netherlands and cricket is having very long relationship, but sadly they have never been good team due to lack of interest and having better infrastructure into the Netherlands but now with the introduction of t20 we can expect good changes which will bring better finances and results as well for the local players with mostly they have native players those are involved in different domestic leagues it's good for them to have better results in near future right now they are having 17th rank in ODI and 15th in T20i which mean we can expect good changes and better quality and performance which will encourage next generation which will have better results as well right now mostly are involved in Soccer and Field Hockey.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 20, 2022, 09:53:32 AM

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In terms of funds and sponsors, the Dutch are in a good position. But in terms of grass roots development, they are in a horrible state. A number of cricket clubs, especially those based outside the capital region have closed down in the recent years. Two decades ago, the club players were 70% Dutch and 30% foreigner. Now it has reversed (70% expats and 30% Dutch). They are managing to stay competitive at the top level because some of the Dutch players are part of the county system (vdMerwe, vMeekeren, vdGugten, Klassen, deLeede, vBeek.etc). But the younger players are not coming through.

In order to do that, they will have to make use of the money that they are getting right now. They will need to use that to attract young players interested in playing cricket. For Netherlands, I understand that one of the biggest problems is that kids aren't very interested in playing cricket. It is time for that to change. However, if the amount of money you receive is not going to be sufficient for you in your life, you are not willing to choose that work as your profession as long as you are not receiving that amount of money.

Netherlands has been playing cricket for a long time but there is no improvement in their game. There are various reasons behind this. Notable among them is that the residents do not take cricket very seriously. As a result there is no interest among newcomers. If new cricketers are not created then it is not possible to expect improvement in cricket. It is not possible to select good cricketers where there are no cricketers. If the attraction of cricket among the local people can be increased then it is possible to improve their cricket. But another thing is to note that if they can't do anything in cricket, they are trying to do better, which can be considered as a positive aspect.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 19, 2022, 11:01:21 PM

In terms of funds and sponsors, the Dutch are in a good position. But in terms of grass roots development, they are in a horrible state. A number of cricket clubs, especially those based outside the capital region have closed down in the recent years. Two decades ago, the club players were 70% Dutch and 30% foreigner. Now it has reversed (70% expats and 30% Dutch). They are managing to stay competitive at the top level because some of the Dutch players are part of the county system (vdMerwe, vMeekeren, vdGugten, Klassen, deLeede, vBeek.etc). But the younger players are not coming through.

In order to do that, they will have to make use of the money that they are getting right now. They will need to use that to attract young players interested in playing cricket. For Netherlands, I understand that one of the biggest problems is that kids aren't very interested in playing cricket. It is time for that to change. However, if the amount of money you receive is not going to be sufficient for you in your life, you are not willing to choose that work as your profession as long as you are not receiving that amount of money.

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 20, 2022, 03:10:37 AM

@Kro55 while Netherland’s have grown well, but they’re yet to scale it up and if they want to achieve constant success then they need to to groom their domestic cricket player’s well. @Sithara007 I totally agree with you and it’s really baffling to see because they have the funds yet they’re unable to make good use of it to groom their young player’s, however whenever they’re able to groom them then they’ll definitely achieve great success in the T20 format.

I don't know whether the money that Netherlands is receiving is actually being used to improve the game of cricket. Because I believe Netherlands team would have been able to do better if that money had been used properly. The improvements are just not visible as they should be. In order for Netherlands to be able to compete at the top level of cricket, or even at least among the top 10, they will need to improve in many ways.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 19, 2022, 11:01:21 PM

Quote from: kro55 on December 16, 2022, 10:44:48 AM

Based on all the positives and negatives that Netherlands cricket is going through right now, as well as considering the current state of cricket in the Netherlands, my opinion is that they should continue to do well in T-20 cricket. Forget about Test cricket and one-day international cricket. They should focus exclusively on T-20 cricket from now on.

You know, one-day international cricket requires a substantial amount of skill. And it is also losing popularity right now just like test cricket. T20 is the most popular standard for cricket right now and it is also easier to improve in this format. There is no doubt that if the Netherlands cricket team concentrates on this format of cricket, they will be able to achieve success. But they will have to work hard.

In terms of funds and sponsors, the Dutch are in a good position. But in terms of grass roots development, they are in a horrible state. A number of cricket clubs, especially those based outside the capital region have closed down in the recent years. Two decades ago, the club players were 70% Dutch and 30% foreigner. Now it has reversed (70% expats and 30% Dutch). They are managing to stay competitive at the top level because some of the Dutch players are part of the county system (vdMerwe, vMeekeren, vdGugten, Klassen, deLeede, vBeek.etc). But the younger players are not coming through.

@Kro55 while Netherland’s have grown well, but they’re yet to scale it up and if they want to achieve constant success then they need to to groom their domestic cricket player’s well. @Sithara007 I totally agree with you and it’s really baffling to see because they have the funds yet they’re unable to make good use of it to groom their young player’s, however whenever they’re able to groom them then they’ll definitely achieve great success in the T20 format.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 16, 2022, 10:44:48 AM

Based on all the positives and negatives that Netherlands cricket is going through right now, as well as considering the current state of cricket in the Netherlands, my opinion is that they should continue to do well in T-20 cricket. Forget about Test cricket and one-day international cricket. They should focus exclusively on T-20 cricket from now on.

You know, one-day international cricket requires a substantial amount of skill. And it is also losing popularity right now just like test cricket. T20 is the most popular standard for cricket right now and it is also easier to improve in this format. There is no doubt that if the Netherlands cricket team concentrates on this format of cricket, they will be able to achieve success. But they will have to work hard.

In terms of funds and sponsors, the Dutch are in a good position. But in terms of grass roots development, they are in a horrible state. A number of cricket clubs, especially those based outside the capital region have closed down in the recent years. Two decades ago, the club players were 70% Dutch and 30% foreigner. Now it has reversed (70% expats and 30% Dutch). They are managing to stay competitive at the top level because some of the Dutch players are part of the county system (vdMerwe, vMeekeren, vdGugten, Klassen, deLeede, vBeek.etc). But the younger players are not coming through.

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Quote from: CryptoYar on December 19, 2022, 03:05:39 AM

As we all know that Ramiz Raja's stance was very clear that if India comes to Pakistan to play in the Asia Cup, only then Pakistan will send its cricket team to India to play in the World Cup 2023.

"We won't go if they don't come"

But now according to some news (s) Rameez Raja will be removed as PCB chairman. And most likely the new PCB chairman will be Najam Sethi (current govt's puppet)

News link: https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/21012-ramiz-raja-likely-to-be-removed-as-pcb-chairman-sources

So the question is, will the new chairman also take this stand?

Even right now, with the current Pakistani situation I have doubt Ramiz Raja is going to remove but in case current government done this all then surely it's going to be big setback for the Pakistan game and purely this will be political based because current government is clearly doing all things which were not allowed in Imran Khan regime, so they are clearly favouring all things which are bringing Pakistan more down in many ways specially having stance like this is clearly alarming that current authorities never want any clear stance about this all, and they want to allow Pakistan for having tour to India for the World Cup.

If Pakistan has Najam Sethi as their next PCB chairman then surely Pakistan will visit India and India will be also not visiting Pakistan for the Asia Cup or this event will be transferred from Pakistan to any other country.

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Quote from: CryptoYar on December 19, 2022, 03:05:39 AM

As we all know that Ramiz Raja's stance was very clear that if India comes to Pakistan to play in the Asia Cup, only then Pakistan will send its cricket team to India to play in the World Cup 2023.

"We won't go if they don't come"

But now according to some news (s) Rameez Raja will be removed as PCB chairman. And most likely the new PCB chairman will be Najam Sethi (current govt's puppet)

News link: https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/21012-ramiz-raja-likely-to-be-removed-as-pcb-chairman-sources

So the question is, will the new chairman also take this stand?

I do not think that the new chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board is going to have the same stand. Because if that was the intention, Ramiz Raja wouldn’t have been replaced in the first place. So, I think, no, this was a decision taken by the Pakistan Cricket Board, keeping these types of things in mind. And people already know that he is a puppet of the government. So, I don’t think I need to say anything more.

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As we all know that Ramiz Raja's stance was very clear that if India comes to Pakistan to play in the Asia Cup, only then Pakistan will send its cricket team to India to play in the World Cup 2023.

"We won't go if they don't come"

But now according to some news (s) Rameez Raja will be removed as PCB chairman. And most likely the new PCB chairman will be Najam Sethi (current govt's puppet)

News link: https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/21012-ramiz-raja-likely-to-be-removed-as-pcb-chairman-sources

So the question is, will the new chairman also take this stand?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2022, 11:04:19 PM

The continued growth of cricket in India is benefitting other countries. Many of the smaller teams now have sponsors based in India. Amul has been sponsoring the Irish cricket team for sometime now, and this month Indian owned IT firm SISAR (Rajaraman Santhanam is the CEO) became the official sponsors of the Dutch women's cricket team. Fairtree is the sponsor of the men's team since 2021. But the concern for Netherlands is that the ODI Super League has been scrapped by the ICC and after 2023, they won't get many matches against the test nations.

Based on all the positives and negatives that Netherlands cricket is going through right now, as well as considering the current state of cricket in the Netherlands, my opinion is that they should continue to do well in T-20 cricket. Forget about Test cricket and one-day international cricket. They should focus exclusively on T-20 cricket from now on.

You know, one-day international cricket requires a substantial amount of skill. And it is also losing popularity right now just like test cricket. T20 is the most popular standard for cricket right now and it is also easier to improve in this format. There is no doubt that if the Netherlands cricket team concentrates on this format of cricket, they will be able to achieve success. But they will have to work hard.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 15, 2022, 11:40:47 AM

This is obviously a positive sign for the Netherlands. At the recent T-20 World Cup, the Netherlands cricket team performed well and showed a lot of promise.

It's relevant to note that I am a firm believer that T20 is a very effective format for any associate team to improve and put on successful performances. Aside from that, another thing that stands out is that the Dutch team has shown a lot of dedication to cricket. Some players played even though they had some injuries. I think this increase in money will also encourage a lot of players to take cricket seriously. They also have some new sponsors, including Sisar. Having an official sponsor is always a smart way to keep the money flowing. The future looks rosy for the Netherlands cricket team.

The continued growth of cricket in India is benefitting other countries. Many of the smaller teams now have sponsors based in India. Amul has been sponsoring the Irish cricket team for sometime now, and this month Indian owned IT firm SISAR (Rajaraman Santhanam is the CEO) became the official sponsors of the Dutch women's cricket team. Fairtree is the sponsor of the men's team since 2021. But the concern for Netherlands is that the ODI Super League has been scrapped by the ICC and after 2023, they won't get many matches against the test nations.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 12, 2022, 11:07:12 PM

The Dutch cricket board (Koninklijke Nederlandse Cricket Bond or KNCB) recently held their annual meeting and there were a few positive outcomes. They reported a fund surplus of €330,000 for the year 2022 (first time in the history of KNCB). Annual revenue for the year 2022 was €900,000 more than what was originally estimated in the budget (the spending also went up by €600,000 more than the originally planned amount). These are very encouraging signs for an associate nation, which has seen it's fund allocation from the ICC reduced over the years.

KNCB signaled it's intention to have more cricket clubs outside the Randstad area, especially in cites such as Groningen and Eindhoven.

This is obviously a positive sign for the Netherlands. At the recent T-20 World Cup, the Netherlands cricket team performed well and showed a lot of promise.

It's relevant to note that I am a firm believer that T20 is a very effective format for any associate team to improve and put on successful performances. Aside from that, another thing that stands out is that the Dutch team has shown a lot of dedication to cricket. Some players played even though they had some injuries. I think this increase in money will also encourage a lot of players to take cricket seriously. They also have some new sponsors, including Sisar. Having an official sponsor is always a smart way to keep the money flowing. The future looks rosy for the Netherlands cricket team.

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The Dutch cricket board (Koninklijke Nederlandse Cricket Bond or KNCB) recently held their annual meeting and there were a few positive outcomes. They reported a fund surplus of €330,000 for the year 2022 (first time in the history of KNCB). Annual revenue for the year 2022 was €900,000 more than what was originally estimated in the budget (the spending also went up by €600,000 more than the originally planned amount). These are very encouraging signs for an associate nation, which has seen it's fund allocation from the ICC reduced over the years.

KNCB signaled it's intention to have more cricket clubs outside the Randstad area, especially in cites such as Groningen and Eindhoven.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on December 11, 2022, 07:04:05 AM

I give such kind of opinion on Kohli above because I know that he can do it, he is struggling to get his form back still he is a class and match winner player , and now in 3rd ODI he proved that why he should compulsory for indian batting lineup to be strong, he score a phenomenal century and shut the mouth of all hater who trolled him and all those who are against him that why still he is in Indian squad.
In 3rd ODI against Bangladesh indian batter proved that why they are called one of the strong batting lineup in cricket world.

Before end of 2022 we have few good things from Virat Kohli like Asia Cup 2022 and then T20i World Cup and now century in last ODI against Bangladesh after losing ODI series look like he is coming back into his best form until 2023 World Cup things could be more positive for him and he will be able to give his best because most chances this could be his last chance for the having best end of his career with T20i career is already ended as now selectors on right path with Hardik Pandya as captain and having few youths into team which will give them good results on long run.

But for the ODI format, we will be able to have same path after World Cup because now they have to change their approach because without this they can do improvements which must for staying at the top and have team like England which is currently best in white ball format after losing match against Bangladesh in 2015 world cup.

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