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August 22, 2024, 10:04:21 PM
Bangladesh started pretty decently. But after that, Pakistan had a great partnership. 141 from Shakeel and 171 not out from Rizwan actually took the game far away from Bangladesh. And now the second day has finished and Bangladesh has started their first innings. Pakistan put on 448. That is a huge total for a team like Bangladesh, especially in test cricket.

Muhammad Rizwan made the century yesterday, and he completed it by hitting the four on to the leg side with the full power to the Shakib Al Hasan and then he went to make 171 runs not out. He started his innings with slow batting and defending, also that time there was much pressure on him due to the team match condition but he faced all those things and when every ball came in the radar, he hit it up towards for the boundary. He was very clever, he was not hitting the balls randomly, whenever he got the perfect gap then he played it for the shot.





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August 22, 2024, 01:12:09 PM
I agree with the observations you mentioned about T20 world cup but what makes you think that in the next world cup it will be hard to get  a deal of 2$ billion ? The next ICC T20 World Cup will be jointly hosted by India and Sri Lanka and I don't think India will settle for any less budget. Or are you suggesting that we had the budget of $3 billion only because it was held in the first world country, the United States of America  Huh

Disney Star won media rights for 2024-27 cycle, and they paid a total of $3.04 billion. And so far, it is turning out to be a loss making exercise for them. First of all, the deal between Disney Star and Zee fell apart. Zee was supposed to pay $1.4 billion to Disney for TV rights, but they backed off from that deal. So the entire deal had to be managed by Disney. And they made a loss in the first year, as the ICC was not very supportive. Given this, there is a good chance that they will not bid for 2028-31.
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August 22, 2024, 12:34:29 PM
Last T20 World Cup was a disaster. And not just because of the time zone. The tournament was scheduled during rainy season, and a number of matches (including those involving the Indian team) were washed out. A few more matches were impacted and overs were cut short. The broadcasters were pissed off, but the ICC just ignored their concerns. For the next cycle (2028-31), I am not expecting a repeat of the $3.04 billion deal that they got for the current cycle. They would be lucky if they get $2 billion.

I agree with the observations you mentioned about T20 world cup but what makes you think that in the next world cup it will be hard to get  a deal of 2$ billion ? The next ICC T20 World Cup will be jointly hosted by India and Sri Lanka and I don't think India will settle for any less budget. Or are you suggesting that we had the budget of $3 billion only because it was held in the first world country, the United States of America  Huh
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August 22, 2024, 12:29:14 PM
Pakistan Vs Bangladesh

Pakistan struggled at 158 for four in the first test against Bangladesh. After the out of Abdullah Shafique, Shan Masood, and Babar Azam finally, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub helped the Pakistan innings but when the players were comfortable with the Bangladesh bowlers then theses both players searched for the boundary but Saim Ayub searching for the long shots as well and he tried more than 2 times for it but always he failed till 15th overs. Also to hit those shots, the chances for his out were also increasing.
By the way, I have been noticed a thing, the Bangladesh bowlers were trying to hit the full bouncy ball in the offside to Saim Ayub that is even more than Saim Ayub’s height. So, I understand the tactic of their bowlers, Saim Ayub is too weak to hit shots on the bouncy balls.
Bangladesh's bowlers bowled very well early on against hosts Pakistan at which point Pakistan lost three wickets for 14 runs including Babar Azam's dismissal for 0 runs by Md Shariful Islam. At first, Pakistan's batting style looked like they might be all out within several hundred runs. At that moment of danger for the team, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub managed the situation by making a partnership of 98 runs. Then again Saud Shakeel and Mohammad Rizwan put together an incredible 240-run stand against Bangladesh. Both of these batsmen have completed centuries but among them Mohammad Rizwan is still unbeaten. Mohammad Rizwan has already completed 150 runs for Pakistan and he is slowly moving towards a double century. Pakistan's current team collection is 416 runs for 6 wickets.

In the beginning of this match Bangladesh was completely in control of the game and even now Pakistan is completely in control of the game. It will be difficult for Bangladesh to surpass the number of runs that Pakistan team will score at the moment. Maybe there are not so many skillful and patient batsmen in the Bangladesh team like Pakistan who have the mentality of batting for a long time.

Bangladesh started pretty decently. But after that, Pakistan had a great partnership. 141 from Shakeel and 171 not out from Rizwan actually took the game far away from Bangladesh. And now the second day has finished and Bangladesh has started their first innings. Pakistan put on 448. That is a huge total for a team like Bangladesh, especially in test cricket.

We all know that Bangladesh is not that good in test cricket. So I think this Bangladesh team is going to struggle a lot to get close to the target. I actually think Bangladesh is already thinking about going for the draw and not thinking about winning. After all, that’s the mentality of the Bangladesh cricket team, especially since we saw the match of Bangladesh versus Afghanistan in the World Cup. Bangladesh could easily have gone for the win. But it seems like recently Bangladesh has always trying to play it safe. Bangladesh have scored 27 in 12 overs. That's why I'm saying they have already started playing it safe.
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August 22, 2024, 12:27:12 PM
No issue on giving him the name of Nepo product etc because it's true.

Having said that these tactics and name calling take a back seat when such individuals work hard in their respective fields and manage to implement successful policies. He did a fairly good job for Indian cricketer as an administrator (He's not BCCI chief but it's clear that he gives the green light to almost everything), the bar was low because his predecessor underperformed or refused to work positively but we should give credit where it's due.

- Successfully ran WPL and proved to everyone that women's cricket can be profitable as well.
- Raised the salary cap for the domestic player, it wasn't his original plan but he played a big role and resolved the pending program as soon as he got power.

I agree. Did a decent job as the BCCI president. And when compared to the mafia that we had during the UPA times (Narayanaswami Srinivasan/ Sharad Pawar), this guy do look like an angel. And many of those who complain about him would be extremely happy if the mafia comes back to power. Apart from WPL/domestic salary, a can note down a few other positives from Jay Shah's term as the BCCI president. He finally agreed to cricket being included in Olympics (all other BCCI presidents before him were against that idea). And Jay Shah as the ACC president actually contributed a lot to growth of cricket in countries such as Nepal. 
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August 22, 2024, 11:46:14 AM
Jay Shah is the 5th Indian chairman of the ICC, after Shashank Manohar, Sharad Pawar, Narayanaswami Srinivasan and Jagmohan Dalmiya. But I have high hopes for him, unlike the case with the two political appointees (Srinivasan and Pawar). However the social media is full of attacks against Shah, claiming that being the son of Amit Shah has helped him to get the post. I don't really care, as I am sure that he will do a good job as the chairman.
This is a great thing for India, but I cannot say the same for other countries. The dude is a product of nepotism which is why he will be name-called like that throughout his life. Well deserved since he is your average corrupt guy.

Anyway, I never really expected much from him as the BCCI chairman and I would feel the same way if he ended up becoming the ICC chairman. These corrupt geezers only lookout for themselves at the end of the day.
No issue on giving him the name of Nepo product etc because it's true.

Having said that these tactics and name calling take a back seat when such individuals work hard in their respective fields and manage to implement successful policies. He did a fairly good job for Indian cricketer as an administrator (He's not BCCI chief but it's clear that he gives the green light to almost everything), the bar was low because his predecessor underperformed or refused to work positively but we should give credit where it's due.

- Successfully ran WPL and proved to everyone that women's cricket can be profitable as well.
- Raised the salary cap for the domestic player, it wasn't his original plan but he played a big role and resolved the pending program as soon as he got power.
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August 22, 2024, 11:24:11 AM
Jay Shah is the 5th Indian chairman of the ICC, after Shashank Manohar, Sharad Pawar, Narayanaswami Srinivasan and Jagmohan Dalmiya. But I have high hopes for him, unlike the case with the two political appointees (Srinivasan and Pawar). However the social media is full of attacks against Shah, claiming that being the son of Amit Shah has helped him to get the post. I don't really care, as I am sure that he will do a good job as the chairman.
This is a great thing for India, but I cannot say the same for other countries. The dude is a product of nepotism which is why he will be name-called like that throughout his life. Well deserved since he is your average corrupt guy.

Anyway, I never really expected much from him as the BCCI chairman and I would feel the same way if he ended up becoming the ICC chairman. These corrupt geezers only lookout for themselves at the end of the day.
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August 22, 2024, 10:58:39 AM
What a legendary comeback from the Pakistan team today in the batting side as they were playing so poorly on the first day and had the loss of many early wickets but then the hope raised from the Saim Ayub but not for long. I am sure that if with Saim Ayub, there might be Babar Azam then he would not lose his wicket because Saim Ayub and Babar has always opened the game for Peshawar Zalmi in the Pakistan Super League. Anyways, not only Saim made no effort in this innings but it was covered by Muhammad Rizwan and Saud's more impactful innings. By the way, Muhammad Rizwan made his 3rd test century as well.

Even the bowler from Pakistan are doing great job, Shaheen Shah Afridi is hitting hard as well, when he came then he just tested two or three balls then he was started to hit ball to the boundaries. 2 sixes and 1 four was hit by him when he just played 20 balls. Also many times, he has taken the risk the fielders of Bangladesh has not have fast running and don’t have the perfect angle to catch which is why he was safe for much time as well.

He made 29 runs while Agha Salman scored 19 critical runs. Let’s see what will happen in the next days as this game is going very interesting. I have a feeling that Bangladesh will bat well too on this pitch.
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August 22, 2024, 10:28:24 AM
Pakistan struggled at 158 for four in the first test against Bangladesh. After the out of Abdullah Shafique, Shan Masood, and Babar Azam finally, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub helped the Pakistan innings but when the players were comfortable with the Bangladesh bowlers then theses both players searched for the boundary but Saim Ayub searching for the long shots as well and he tried more than 2 times for it but always he failed till 15th overs. Also to hit those shots, the chances for his out were also increasing.

What a legendary comeback from the Pakistan team today in the batting side as they were playing so poorly on the first day and had the loss of many early wickets but then the hope raised from the Saim Ayub but not for long. I am sure that if with Saim Ayub, there might be Babar Azam then he would not lose his wicket because Saim Ayub and Babar has always opened the game for Peshawar Zalmi in the Pakistan Super League. Anyways, not only Saim made no effort in this innings but it was covered by Muhammad Rizwan and Saud's more impactful innings. By the way, Muhammad Rizwan made his 3rd test century as well.
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August 22, 2024, 10:01:34 AM
Now it is confirmed that Jay Shah will be the next chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC). He will replace the current chairman (Greg Barclay of New Zealand):

https://www.livemint.com/sports/cricket-news/bcci-secretary-jay-shah-likely-to-be-named-as-icc-chairman-to-replace-greg-barclay-report-11724219154368.html

Jay Shah is the 5th Indian chairman of the ICC, after Shashank Manohar, Sharad Pawar, Narayanaswami Srinivasan and Jagmohan Dalmiya. But I have high hopes for him, unlike the case with the two political appointees (Srinivasan and Pawar). However the social media is full of attacks against Shah, claiming that being the son of Amit Shah has helped him to get the post. I don't really care, as I am sure that he will do a good job as the chairman.
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August 22, 2024, 09:45:57 AM
Fiji cricket team has played 4 matches, so far out of which they have won only one match. Tomorrow will be their fifth match against the Vanuatu team. Fiji performance in previous matches has been quite disappointing but they have had a match against Vanuatu before in which Vanuatu put in a strong performance and beat Fiji. Fiji track record against Vanuatu has not been anything special but all eyes are now on tomorrow match. Fijian fans are hoping that their team will learn from their early mistakes and perform well in this match. This match between the two teams can be quite interesting as this match is very important for both the teams. Fiji now have fewer chances to advance in the tournament so they will have to play to their full potential to win. If we talk about in pervious match of Fiji against cook island, Fiji won the match by 110 runs. Now Let's see tomorrow match brings a new twist.
The 1st match between Kuwait and Hong Kong was played at the country Selangor turf Club. Kuwait won the toss and elected to batting first. Kuwait is a strong team and amazing playing for won the match. Kuwait total runs for 169 and Won the match. Hong Kong total runs for 168 and lost the match. Hong Kong and Kuwait both are good teams, and they both played well in the match, but Hong Kong lost by just 1 run, no worries. Hong Kong will perform better in the next match.Kuwait won by 4 Wickets and 7 balls. The lost batting performance in the Kuwait team was by Adnan idrees scored 11 runs and 7 balls hitting 2 fours and 0 sixs. They have also made their fans very happy. Hopefully they will continue to play like this in the future. Congratulations to Kuwait for their upcoming matches.
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August 22, 2024, 09:42:54 AM
In the beginning of this match Bangladesh was completely in control of the game and even now Pakistan is completely in control of the game. It will be difficult for Bangladesh to surpass the number of runs that Pakistan team will score at the moment. Maybe there are not so many skillful and patient batsmen in the Bangladesh team like Pakistan who have the mentality of batting for a long time.

Today was the second day of the match between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Saud Shakeel and Salman Agha played so well. By the way, he always formed amazingly in the test matches. As once before against Sri Lanka he made 200 runs and he made these crucial runs when the team was in trouble same like this but this time he did not complete his double century. However, one century is a lot.  Wink

Yesterday, the Bangladesh bowlers were playing so well and amazingly but not today, they have not picked many wickets for a long time. Saud Shakeel made 141 runs in which he hit zero sixes but nine fours as well.

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August 22, 2024, 06:26:20 AM
Pakistan Vs Bangladesh

Pakistan struggled at 158 for four in the first test against Bangladesh. After the out of Abdullah Shafique, Shan Masood, and Babar Azam finally, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub helped the Pakistan innings but when the players were comfortable with the Bangladesh bowlers then theses both players searched for the boundary but Saim Ayub searching for the long shots as well and he tried more than 2 times for it but always he failed till 15th overs. Also to hit those shots, the chances for his out were also increasing.

By the way, I have been noticed a thing, the Bangladesh bowlers were trying to hit the full bouncy ball in the offside to Saim Ayub that is even more than Saim Ayub’s height. So, I understand the tactic of their bowlers, Saim Ayub is too weak to hit shots on the bouncy balls.
Bangladesh's bowlers bowled very well early on against hosts Pakistan at which point Pakistan lost three wickets for 14 runs including Babar Azam's dismissal for 0 runs by Md Shariful Islam. At first, Pakistan's batting style looked like they might be all out within several hundred runs. At that moment of danger for the team, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub managed the situation by making a partnership of 98 runs. Then again Saud Shakeel and Mohammad Rizwan put together an incredible 240-run stand against Bangladesh. Both of these batsmen have completed centuries but among them Mohammad Rizwan is still unbeaten. Mohammad Rizwan has already completed 150 runs for Pakistan and he is slowly moving towards a double century. Pakistan's current team collection is 416 runs for 6 wickets.

In the beginning of this match Bangladesh was completely in control of the game and even now Pakistan is completely in control of the game. It will be difficult for Bangladesh to surpass the number of runs that Pakistan team will score at the moment. Maybe there are not so many skillful and patient batsmen in the Bangladesh team like Pakistan who have the mentality of batting for a long time.
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August 22, 2024, 01:20:14 AM
Major ICC events are primarily elite teams that are favored by the ICC. England, Australia, India are definitely on top of this list. In particular, ICC prepares the schedule for major tournaments according to how India wants to play and when it wants to play.

That is why we call these three teams (India, Australia and England) the big 3 nations of cricket as they share the strong cricketing traditions, resources, and successes. Rest of the teams do not even come close to them. Sometimes if in an ICC tournament, India has a match with Pakistan, the hype is created by ICC themselves (as they always keep them in same group) but in reality, there is no match between the two teams and hence India always wins those matches.

My only fear is that since these countries has have all the Resources and Infrastructure and Global Influence, a different in performances between the big 3 and other teams will get so big that it will be dull to watch a match outside of big 3. Shocked


It would be wrong to say that India and Pakistan matches sometimes, you will notice everywhere from Asia Cup to ODI World Cup and T20 World Cup that the group stage matches are scheduled with India and Pakistan in the same group. The biggest reason for making the schedule like this is the eternal rivalry between India and Pakistan and then again these two teams never play a bilateral series, in that case the hype is very high when there is a match between these two teams. As a result, a large number of people around the world watch the India vs Pakistan match live, which is very profitable for the broadcasting channels. Many broadcast channels buy broadcasting rights from ICC to carry only India and Pakistan matches. In future, if the Champions Trophy is divided into group stages, India and Pakistan will be in the same group.
India and Pakistan are eternal rivals as always. The game of these two teams on the cricket field means an extra boost and excitement among the fans. We don't see any domestic series between India and Pakistan even if the ICC wants it because there is political disparity between them. As a result, no country is willing to play the series.

India vs Pakistan matches are high voltage matches with the highest attendance. We have seen in many World Cups that more tickets are sold when the matches are played between India and Pakistan than when the other teams are playing. The fans want to see the match between these two teams on the field and even to see which team wins with their own eyes, for which they come to the stadium to watch the match between India and Pakistan despite many hardships. We might enjoy a high voltage match between Pakistan and India in the upcoming ICC Champions Trophy.
Of course bilateral series can be held between two teams if ICC wants but ICC never wants it because its a business policy. If there are regular bilateral series between them, India and Pakistan matches in major tournaments will not be as exciting as it is now. If the hype is not high then the broadcasting channels will not be able to make the amount of money that only the India and Pakistan matches are making so the people to whom the ICC will sell the broadcasting rights will not want to pay too much for broadcasting. It is not new that a corrupt organization with the ICC favors those who directly support the ICC financially or otherwise. The day ICC becomes corruption free, ICC tournaments will be as popular as FIFA tournaments.
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August 21, 2024, 09:24:01 PM
Last T20 World Cup was a disaster. And not just because of the time zone. The tournament was scheduled during rainy season, and a number of matches (including those involving the Indian team) were washed out. A few more matches were impacted and overs were cut short. The broadcasters were pissed off, but the ICC just ignored their concerns. For the next cycle (2028-31), I am not expecting a repeat of the $3.04 billion deal that they got for the current cycle. They would be lucky if they get $2 billion.
It doesn't change the fact that broadcasters overpaid for the current cycle and made losses despite 2024 t-20 WC beating the previous numbers (the last 2 t-20 WCs), yes there was a significant spike in numbers for the 2024 T-20 WC and not because of some miracle, its just Indian team had a fine campaign. Yeah, course correction will happen as far as the next cycle is concerned and for the right reasons.

Reminder that I posted this way back in 2022 when the auction concluded and considering the current drama it aged nicely.



-There are total of 179 matches in 4 ICC tournaments and India is playing 26 matches in 4 ICC tournaments then we have additional 8 semifinals and 4 finals (knockouts).

- From the broadcaster's point of view if they are targeting the Indian market only, then they have only 26 (Ind) + 8(Semis) + 4(finals) = 38 Important matches out of 179 in the ICC tournaments.

- If we look at important matches only (38) then according to $3.02 Billion bid it every match is worth close to $80 Million.

- And if we are looking at every ICC match which is 179 then every game is worth approx $16.8 Million. Point to note that 1 IPL match worth is $13-ish million, that's a recent benchmark.

Remember 179 - 38 = 141 non India/ non knockouts.

Now tell me which broadcaster will pay close to $17 million bucks for Aus vs SL, Pak vs SL, SA vs BAN or even Eng vs Aus for Indian or any market?
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August 21, 2024, 08:30:58 PM
Pakistan Vs Bangladesh

Pakistan struggled at 158 for four in the first test against Bangladesh. After the out of Abdullah Shafique, Shan Masood, and Babar Azam finally, Saud Shakeel and Saim Ayub helped the Pakistan innings but when the players were comfortable with the Bangladesh bowlers then theses both players searched for the boundary but Saim Ayub searching for the long shots as well and he tried more than 2 times for it but always he failed till 15th overs. Also to hit those shots, the chances for his out were also increasing.

By the way, I have been noticed a thing, the Bangladesh bowlers were trying to hit the full bouncy ball in the offside to Saim Ayub that is even more than Saim Ayub’s height. So, I understand the tactic of their bowlers, Saim Ayub is too weak to hit shots on the bouncy balls.
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August 21, 2024, 08:18:48 PM
Now this rivalry is almost ended due to huge difference of quality between these countries game India is clearly on advantage and Pakistan is losing badly due to their internal issues things are getting the worst day by day for them even ICC is still having good success for gaining good amount of funds just because of creating hype through Indian media because they are crazy about cricket, but now their rivalry is with Australia which is also having good quality and consistency to handle them in all conditions.

You're right that India is a far better team than Pakistan but still Pakistan has good players who on their day can defeat any team and this is the reason people like to watch to Pakistan Vs India matches more than any other matches. Some people say that Pakistan's team performance in the ICC tournaments is like a Weak team but that is not case. Think we have a match between India Vs Pakistan and a match between India vs Zimbabwe or any weak team, you will find a huge difference in audience for both matches.
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August 21, 2024, 05:13:19 PM
Vanuatu performed well in this match and deserve to be congratulate.  If they continue to play like this from now on it can only be beneficial for them.  And it a good team too.  And it was not a simple margin win, it involved a lot of hard work and pressure from their bowlers.  And the real win role should also go to their bowler.  Vanuatu batsmen need to work on their pace.  Because most teams reach the target of 150.  So their batsmen should be able to target up to 170.  And their bowler also took 9 wickets and won the match by 36 runs.  Congratulations to them for their win and Fiji batsmen need to work on their pace as they did not meet the target of 150.  And if they cannot succeed in this they will continue to fail.And the opposing teams will continue to win matches and strengthen themselves.
Fiji cricket team has played 4 matches, so far out of which they have won only one match. Tomorrow will be their fifth match against the Vanuatu team. Fiji performance in previous matches has been quite disappointing but they have had a match against Vanuatu before in which Vanuatu put in a strong performance and beat Fiji. Fiji track record against Vanuatu has not been anything special but all eyes are now on tomorrow match. Fijian fans are hoping that their team will learn from their early mistakes and perform well in this match. This match between the two teams can be quite interesting as this match is very important for both the teams. Fiji now have fewer chances to advance in the tournament so they will have to play to their full potential to win. If we talk about in pervious match of Fiji against cook island, Fiji won the match by 110 runs. Now Let's see tomorrow match brings a new twist.
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August 21, 2024, 11:18:04 AM
Now this rivalry is almost ended due to huge difference of quality between these countries game India is clearly on advantage and Pakistan is losing badly due to their internal issues things are getting the worst day by day for them even ICC is still having good success for gaining good amount of funds just because of creating hype through Indian media because they are crazy about cricket, but now their rivalry is with Australia which is also having good quality and consistency to handle them in all conditions.

Indian cricket fans surely love to enjoy every moment because now they are having enough things to celebrate and enjoy but in Pakistan they are having too many problems which are preventing them from having any entertainment through cricket or related things now most chances we will have no India in Pakistan despite too much hype about this.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. India is dominating the cricket revenue market, because they follow free market economy. Pakistan on the other hand has put so many restrictions, including conditions to share cricket streams with the national broadcaster. As a result, revenues from Pakistan is just 2-3% of that of India. Same goes for Bangladesh as well. On the other hand, Australia and England contribute much more to the revenues, despite their relatively small population size.
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India and Pakistan are eternal rivals as always. The game of these two teams on the cricket field means an extra boost and excitement among the fans. We don't see any domestic series between India and Pakistan even if the ICC wants it because there is political disparity between them. As a result, no country is willing to play the series.

India vs Pakistan matches are high voltage matches with the highest attendance. We have seen in many World Cups that more tickets are sold when the matches are played between India and Pakistan than when the other teams are playing. The fans want to see the match between these two teams on the field and even to see which team wins with their own eyes, for which they come to the stadium to watch the match between India and Pakistan despite many hardships. We might enjoy a high voltage match between Pakistan and India in the upcoming ICC Champions Trophy.
Now this rivalry is almost ended due to huge difference of quality between these countries game India is clearly on advantage and Pakistan is losing badly due to their internal issues things are getting the worst day by day for them even ICC is still having good success for gaining good amount of funds just because of creating hype through Indian media because they are crazy about cricket, but now their rivalry is with Australia which is also having good quality and consistency to handle them in all conditions.

Indian cricket fans surely love to enjoy every moment because now they are having enough things to celebrate and enjoy but in Pakistan they are having too many problems which are preventing them from having any entertainment through cricket or related things now most chances we will have no India in Pakistan despite too much hype about this.
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