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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 18, 2019, 12:48:29 PM

Quote from: deadley on October 18, 2019, 09:01:14 AM

He even don't deserve place in T20 side, because of his slow batting Pak lost 2 match against SL and he wasn't even able to accelerate inning at the end. If someone did great in past doesn't mean he can continue same in future too.

Why you want to single out Sarfaraz Ahmed? I am not one of his fans, but we need to remember that most of the Pakistani batsmen failed during the T20 series. It is true that his scoring rate was not good during the first T20I match. But to be fair, he came to crease when Pakistan was struggling at 3/22 and he managed to build a partnership with Iftikhar Ahmed, which got Pakistan out of trouble. In the second match, he batted well for his 26 runs (made from 16 balls) before a perfect delivery from Hasaranga ended his innings.

This is not new after losing heavily they done this type magics many time in past main thing now Sarfraz was not in new frame and they want to put him out so they done Azhar Ali as test captain is never been good choice as we already watch him and Babaer Azam still need some more time I still feel its all about personal like and dislike and now Misbah is doing his own magic as these both new captains in his good book and Sarfraz was not suited.

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This is a bad, very bad decision. You may have your own different opinion, but Sarfaraz did take the team to number one in the T20s and successfully maintained that rank, so I believe that he should've at least remained the captain of the T20 side. There's a T20 world cup coming up in less than a year, and Misbah seems to be trying to ruin the team at this stage. Lips sealed

I have not seen any Pakistan match in a long time and hence i cannot comment about the performance of Sarfaraz Ahmed after the world cup. With the T20 world cup fast approaching the Pakistan cricket board must be scrambling to find the right replacement for the tournament which is always a hard job considering the lack of dept in their line up.

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Quote from: deadley on October 18, 2019, 09:01:14 AM

He even don't deserve place in T20 side, because of his slow batting Pak lost 2 match against SL and he wasn't even able to accelerate inning at the end. If someone did great in past doesn't mean he can continue same in future too.

Why you want to single out Sarfaraz Ahmed? I am not one of his fans, but we need to remember that most of the Pakistani batsmen failed during the T20 series. It is true that his scoring rate was not good during the first T20I match. But to be fair, he came to crease when Pakistan was struggling at 3/22 and he managed to build a partnership with Iftikhar Ahmed, which got Pakistan out of trouble. In the second match, he batted well for his 26 runs (made from 16 balls) before a perfect delivery from Hasaranga ended his innings.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

This is a bad, very bad decision. You may have your own different opinion, but Sarfaraz did take the team to number one in the T20s and successfully maintained that rank, so I believe that he should've at least remained the captain of the T20 side. There's a T20 world cup coming up in less than a year, and Misbah seems to be trying to ruin the team at this stage. Lips sealed

He even don't deserve place in T20 side, because of his slow batting Pak lost 2 match against SL and he wasn't even able to accelerate inning at the end. If someone did great in past doesn't mean he can continue same in future too.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

Pakistan needs to groom young talents and find the right captain to be successful for a long time, not sure about the new players in the team, India did the right way when they were grooming Dhoni to take over as the captain he had support from senior players and former captains and then he took over the helm in every format and it was a gradual process and that is the case with Kohli too and now see how they are performing. Time will tell whether these changes will make an impact.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

This is a bad, very bad decision. You may have your own different opinion, but Sarfaraz did take the team to number one in the T20s and successfully maintained that rank, so I believe that he should've at least remained the captain of the T20 side. There's a T20 world cup coming up in less than a year, and Misbah seems to be trying to ruin the team at this stage. Lips sealed

I understand what you are saying and I know that Sarfaraz did help them win the 2017 champions trophy and helped in many other ways, but his form has gone down the hill drastically and he is not the man he once was.

This is why I appreciate Misbah for taking such a bold decision for the benefit of the team though it remains to be seen if this decision will pay dividends in the future. Am expecting good results through this decision though.

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Quote from: teosanru on October 18, 2019, 06:47:52 AM

I think the recent defeat against number 9 team really put a lot of pressure on them all eyes were on Misbah and a lot of questions were actually asked on team selection and working. I think it was obvious that some critical decision would be taken and here it is. I don't know if this would prove to be good or fatal but yes it would lower down the morale even further. Now there would be another fight for the captain of the team. I think Imam-ul-haq or maybe Babar Azam can be great contenders for the spot.

They have already selected the new captain. Babar Azam will be the new T20 captain and Azhar Ali will be leading them for tests. That means that Babar will be captaining them for the ICC T20 World Cup (Australia 2020). However, they should make sure that they don't put too much pressure on him, as along with Fakhar Zaman, he forms the backbone of the Pakistani batting lineup.

The immediate target for Pakistan should be to win the next T20 world cup. I don't think that this is an impossible target as they are currently the no.1 ranking side (despite the recent series loss to Sri Lanka) as per the ICC rankings. Their top order batting and pace bowling is in order and the only departments they need to improve on are spin and middle-order batting.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

This is a bad, very bad decision. You may have your own different opinion, but Sarfaraz did take the team to number one in the T20s and successfully maintained that rank, so I believe that he should've at least remained the captain of the T20 side. There's a T20 world cup coming up in less than a year, and Misbah seems to be trying to ruin the team at this stage. Lips sealed

I have a more or less similar thoughts as you. but good thing is they didn't drop him as a ODI captain lol which looks like a lip service in a sense because there is no major Tournament coming up in ODI. Babar Azam might look a good choice for T-20 but i am not sure if he's captain material or not and clock is ticking for next T-20 World cup. In test format his captaincy sucks so Azhar is good choice.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

This is a bad, very bad decision. You may have your own different opinion, but Sarfaraz did take the team to number one in the T20s and successfully maintained that rank, so I believe that he should've at least remained the captain of the T20 side. There's a T20 world cup coming up in less than a year, and Misbah seems to be trying to ruin the team at this stage. Lips sealed

I think the recent defeat against number 9 team really put a lot of pressure on them all eyes were on Misbah and a lot of questions were actually asked on team selection and working. I think it was obvious that some critical decision would be taken and here it is. I don't know if this would prove to be good or fatal but yes it would lower down the morale even further. Now there would be another fight for the captain of the team. I think Imam-ul-haq or maybe Babar Azam can be great contenders for the spot.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 18, 2019, 02:31:41 AM

@bryant.coleman I’ll agree as it’s very difficult to see a bilateral series happening anytime soon between these two Asian nations, but I feel cricket should be above politics. The only way I see this series happening is if the Pakistan PM personally reaches out to the Indian PM, and requests him for this series to take place. While there’s no doubt that BCCI doesn’t need more money, but this series is about emotions and whenever these two sides play the entire world watches hence ICC should compel them to play each other.

Imran Khan reaching out to Narendra Modi? It is plain impracticable, with Pakistan making so much noise over the abolishment of the Article 370 (the one which gave autonomy to Jammu-Kashmir). The situation is highly charged and no side is in a position to concede anything to the other. To put it plainly, BCCI does not feel a need to engage with the PCB.

However, that doesn't mean that PCB can't earn revenues. The recently concluded Sri Lankan tour of Pakistan was a grand success. Next, they should ask teams such as South Africa and West Indies to tour Pakistan. And if everything goes as planned, then nothing stops them from hosting big 3 teams such as Australia or England there.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.

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It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.

It is true that the quality of Pakistan players are going down and they are finding it hard to find quality batsman, they always had talented bowlers but their batting is their main issue and they are not able to identify any quality players while India on the other hand is going through the best time in their cricketing history with a good bench strength

Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 01:34:42 AM

Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.

T20 is hard to predict and anyone can win but ODI and Test match India will dominate Pakistan.

Compared to the other leading teams of the table India seems quite strong in ODI and test cricket. The separate squad for both ODI and test cricket has got small changes, and if one fails to perform or take responsibility the same is being done by the player following. This is giving success for India over the past matches played. However there will be certain time period for each team to flourish, now it's the time of India in my view.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 18, 2019, 01:34:42 AM

It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.

It is true that the quality of Pakistan players are going down and they are finding it hard to find quality batsman, they always had talented bowlers but their batting is their main issue and they are not able to identify any quality players while India on the other hand is going through the best time in their cricketing history with a good bench strength

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Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.

T20 is hard to predict and anyone can win but ODI and Test match India will dominate Pakistan.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 17, 2019, 11:16:30 PM

To be realistic, I don't expect the India-Pakistan bilateral series to get revived anytime during the next 5-6 years. The political climate is very charged up in India and anyone who openly supports such a series risks being hammered by the media and the politicians. Under such circumstances I don't think that either Ganguly or Modi will take such a risk. The Indian PM is increasingly getting sidelined by his more right-wing deputy (Amit Shah), and he can't afford taking a softer line towards Pakistan now.

On the other hand, the Pakistanis are all in favor of the series going ahead. No surprises there, as the PCB is in a bad financial condition and any series with India (if possible) can bring them huge amounts of revenue. But the issue is that India doesn't need such a series right now. They are earning billions of USD from the IPL alone, and they don't really need any bilateral series to boost their coffers.

@bryant.coleman I’ll agree as it’s very difficult to see a bilateral series happening anytime soon between these two Asian nations, but I feel cricket should be above politics. The only way I see this series happening is if the Pakistan PM personally reaches out to the Indian PM, and requests him for this series to take place. While there’s no doubt that BCCI doesn’t need more money, but this series is about emotions and whenever these two sides play the entire world watches hence ICC should compel them to play each other.

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 17, 2019, 04:12:37 PM

Every year how many ICC tournaments are there to see both these teams playing each other.

It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.

This is why I don't think that this is a big deal. Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.

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To be realistic, I don't expect the India-Pakistan bilateral series to get revived anytime during the next 5-6 years. The political climate is very charged up in India and anyone who openly supports such a series risks being hammered by the media and the politicians. Under such circumstances I don't think that either Ganguly or Modi will take such a risk. The Indian PM is increasingly getting sidelined by his more right-wing deputy (Amit Shah), and he can't afford taking a softer line towards Pakistan now.

On the other hand, the Pakistanis are all in favor of the series going ahead. No surprises there, as the PCB is in a bad financial condition and any series with India (if possible) can bring them huge amounts of revenue. But the issue is that India doesn't need such a series right now. They are earning billions of USD from the IPL alone, and they don't really need any bilateral series to boost their coffers.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 17, 2019, 02:46:04 PM

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I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I have no idea about the present political tensions but both these countries are always fighting but what we people does not understand is that what they are fighting about and what makes them fight against each other all the time. Sporting events must not mix with politics and they should allow them to play if not in Pakistan or India then should play in neutral grounds.

Quote from: Haunebu on October 17, 2019, 02:46:04 PM

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.

Every year how many ICC tournaments are there to see both these teams playing each other.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 17, 2019, 02:46:04 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on October 17, 2019, 02:24:34 PM

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on October 17, 2019, 01:23:04 PM

Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries

If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh Cheesy

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PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s Tongue

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I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.

I agree big problem is in India because every time they are refusing to tour Pakistan and starting propaganda about Terrorism its all about they don't want PCB have some good revenue from this series and they become stable every time they run away so its still need years.

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 17, 2019, 02:24:34 PM

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on October 17, 2019, 01:23:04 PM

Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries

If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh Cheesy

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PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s Tongue

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I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on October 17, 2019, 01:23:04 PM

Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries

If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh Cheesy

.

PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s Tongue

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