Topic: Crimea - page 16. (Read 156940 times)

Back then, the Soviet rule lasted for less than 2 years, as these areas were annexed to the Nazi Germany during the Operation Barbarossa in 1941. By the time the Nazis were pushed back, more than one-third of the population had perished (including almost all of the Jews). People who were regarded as anti-Nazi (esp. members of the communist party) were exterminated without any exception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt6pR_s3ra4

True man of principle %)

P.S. I think that somebody should have a party in his bar

EU is going to prolong sanctions against Crimea, punishing them to taking "democracy" literally, for another year:
http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2015/06/09/n_7272086.shtml

Meanwhile there are reported problems with usage of payment cards on the territory of the republic:
http://ria.ru/society/20150609/1069108493.html

They were added in 1939 after division of Poland between Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

Most of the rabid neo-Nazis within Ukraine, comes from the three Western provinces: Lvov, Ternopol and Ivano-Frankovsk. These provinces were added to Ukraine after the WW2, after separating them from the Galician district of Poland. Without this region, Ukraine would have been a peaceful country, with good relations with Russia.

It's not Lenin's fault. It is Provisional Government who are responsible for recognizing existance of so-called Ukraine. Kerensky & Lvov government issued an order, which recognized so-called Central Rada of Ukraine as legitimate state body of Ukraine. And even worse, it didn't specify any borders of Ukraine and its exact location. Just declared that Ukraine exists somewhere on Russian territory, effectively allowing Central Rada to seize any part of former Russian Empire. That's exactly what is happening right now, formal successors of Central Rada are trying to declare their sovereignty over Stavropol, Rostov and Krasnodar regions on the regular basis.

Ukraine wouldn't exist without Lvov & Kerensky's recognition. Lenin just tried to minimize the consequences of their "mistake" (treason in fact) by maintaining the buffer state and declaration of its exact borders. That was done in order to prevent some exile version of Central Rada from making random territorial claims in the distant future. And he succeeded in that, as far I can see. Thanks to creation and subsequent official recognition of the Ukrainian SSR, these claims now are causing nothing but laughter.

That's Lvov & Kerensky who were the real traitors and their violent removal from power was absolutely right decision. They're responsible for everything what is happened after 1917, because that wouldn't happen without their stupidity. For eight months in power they have done nothing but fighting for positions and signing some absolutely idiotic decrees. Typical "Poroshenko & Yatsenyuk" template of behavior.

Well, and if Lenin didn't create Ukraine after 1917 coup d'etat and didn't fragment Russia into bits and pieces, the situation would have been even better...

Like I said; if Nikita Khrushchev hadn´t transferred the Crimea to the Ukrainian part of the U.S.S.R. from the Russian part 60 years ago it would be difficult to find many retards/ignoramuses today claiming that it should belong to Ukraine.

Russia's claim to Crimea is much more solid when compared to Kosovo's claim for independence. The so called "Annexation of Crimea" was a bloodless event, supported by the vast majority of the Crimeans. And now compare this to the NATO intervention in Kosovo, in which thousands of innocent people were killed, and the majority of the ethnic Serbs were either murdered or driven out.

Well, it´s a matter of historical record that the Crimea belonged to the Ukrainian Socialist Republic (which was a part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) for 36 years (1954-1990) and then for 24 years to the independent state of Ukraine.

If the Soviet regime hadn´t decided in the fifties for most likely administrative reasons to transfer this piece of land  from one Soviet republic to another well, almost nobody today would be dumb or ignorant enough to claim that it it didn´t solidly belong to Russia. Like it has from the 18th century apart from those 60 years.

Dear Fellas, I guess you forgot the Ukraine is a part of USSR which includes Russia and other regions into One Hierarchy, Russia defends the rights what they are supposed to be as before, Does anybody will sit silent if any of the parts of their country got disintegrated into pieces and watch it like a loosers. For instance, look out S.Korea and N.Korea now and then, likewise other parts of Asian Sub-continent.

Why appointing a new minister ? The old one dismiss ?

The life in crimea is so nice that price jumped by 25% , water is rationned ...

http://ru.krymr.com/content/news/27055689.html

Hoo and you can still claim that hotel was full ... but when we check online webcam ... allmost all the place are quiete empty ...

But of course, Russia never lie ...

Perhaps you can try to explain us this then ?




Wait ... look well the date ... How it can be ? 20/02/2014 ?? But this is 2 weeks before the invade of Fake green men in Crimea ... ? LoL ...

And during this time, Russia continue to lie all over and fill the forum with the troll propaganda ....


Crimea is full loaded with tourist ...  and webcam do not lie ...

Some weeks ago, Medvedev expressed displeasure with the state of holiday and vacation infrastructure in Crimea, saying that it's not up to the Russian standards, let alone European, and spoke favourably about Sochi - promoting a healthy competition between the resorts.

Now it seems Crimea is taking up the challenge (especially since the primary issue with water supplies and transportation have been resolved - additional ferries are going between Crimea and the mainland).

State council of Crimea appointed a new Minister for Resorts and Tourism - Sergej Strel'bickij, who previously held the position of vice-head of the republic.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/06/05/ministr/

Yeah, it's hard to imagine how evil they are. Evil Putin is forcing crimeans to use totalitarian LTE and UMTS instead of truly democratic GPRS and EDGE.

Indeed. Meanwhile I´m reading sullen and gloomy reports in the western mob press about how everything is so terrible under the evil Russian rule and blah blah blah 

4G and 3G networks have been started in Sevastopol 2 days ago.

http://www.e-crimea.info/news/v-sevastopole-zarabotal-internet-formata-4g

LTE network coverage is currently 25% of the city while UMTS coverage is closer to 35%.

Well, 4G and 3G networks are first sign of civilization. Life is getting better after Ukrainian occupants were kicked out of Crimea.

Actually, if you ever live outside US, you will observe, that it is rule rather than exception  Politicians on all levels of power do this.

Nah Nemo, they just want to stay alive while they´re in office. After they leave it´s more relaxed. And if they talk sense then it´s unlikely to reach many Americans anyway. The mass media always has the right kind of stuff.

Also many of these guys, presidents and others, are highly religious. As they age they may be feeling that the flames of hell are starting to warm their toes and so want to make some amends in time.

How is it that as soon as a US president vacates his office, he suddenly starts talking sense? Is there some kind of virus in the White House office that makes people occupying it behave irrationally.


In other news:

Member of Ukraine's Azov volunteer battalion detained in Crimea — prosecutor
http://tass.ru/en/russia/792788


Ukro-nazis try to sabotage Crimea...

Carter: Return of the Crimea to Russia was Inevitable

May 1st, 2015

Adapted from Rusvesna and VOA -  Joaquin Flores

Former US President Jimmy Carter, in an interview with radio station "Voice of America", ​​said that the reunification of Russia and the Crimea was an inevitable event.

Carter also says he is pleased with Russia's commitment to implement the Minsk agreement.  He added that the Elders were also pleased with Russia's allegiance to the Minsk agreement.  “There's not any doubt in our mind that the Russians genuinely want to see all the aspects of that concluded.  I think that's the only ballgame in town,” said Carter, “really as far as resolving the problems with Ukraine, is to get the Minsk agreement implemented.”

Carter and other former global leaders met with Russian President Vladimir Putin for 2.5 hours Wednesday in Moscow.  The group, called the Elders, visited at a time when Russia's relations with the West are severely strained over Moscow's seizure of Crimea and the deadly conflict in eastern Ukraine.

Carter, who served as president of the United States in 1977-1981 years, commented on the current situation in Ukraine, noting the predestination of some processes of history:

"I am well aware of the fact that Khrushchev many years ago - though not too many - handed control of the Crimea to Ukraine as a gift. This was done with the expectation that Ukraine, like Crimea, is part of one of the Soviet Union. I do not believe that there is any immediate prospect of the break in relations between Russia and the Crimea. I think it (the reunion of Russia and the Crimea) was almost an inevitable step, whether people agree with this or not."

Carter originally stated that position a year ago, shortly after the annexation happened, but he also has said Russia should not be allowed any other territorial gains in Ukraine.

In his comments, Carter also opposed any arms supplies to Ukraine from the United States:

“I would like very much to see a cessation of sending arms to Ukraine, either to Kyiv or to the eastern part,” said Carter.  “And, my hope is that President Obama would not do so.”

In addition, the former president of the United States noted that in the perception of Russia and the United States there is a serious difference in the assessment of the manner in which Ukraine had a change of government in 2014:

"There is a problem with the interpretation of what happened then in Kiev, with the removal of the President and then selecting another. And the issue is not fully resolved. From the point of view of the Americans, the arrival of the president of Poroshenko was par for the course in accordance with the law, but I have to say that the interpretation of these events for President Putin is quite different."

Jimmy Carter's visit to Moscow on April 27-29 was with several other members of the "Elders"(The Elders). This is combination of world-famous public figures with experience of peaceful settlement of conflicts and the protection of human rights in crisis situations, which was founded by former South African President Nelson Mandela in 2007.

Currently, the group consists of 12 people, headed by former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan. Information about the meeting is published on the website of the President of the Russian Federation (Meeting with participants of the "Elders") and on the online page of the association (The Elders conclude three-day visit to Moscow).

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/05/carter-return-of-crimea-to-russia-was.html