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legendary
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May 05, 2014, 07:42:08 AM
Ukrainian authorities announced about closing the border with Crimea:
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/1162590

They are blaming worsening of the situation in Crimea, and penetration of armed groups from Crimea into Ukraine.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 07:37:56 AM
You think that Russia is a role model for zero corruption? That is a sad joke , even when comparing it to urk.
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Just try to imagine a situation when regional government forced to pay bribes in order to get any money for local budget, and 1 minute of talking with prime minister costs $10000.

I didn't say even once that they should continue with the former government , I just said that their current choice is just as bad as doing nothing.
Should they kill themselves instead of living in this cruel world?

Why choose a less corrupt government when you can start with a fresh one.
C'mon, this is Earth, and it's not a Wonderland. You can't create a fresh government on your will, due to many reasons. The fresh government could be created only when there are serious social changes, switching from one social organization to another, for example. When you are switching from feudalism to liberal society, then you have to create new government.

Without having serious social reasons, any attempt to create new government from scratch is doomed to turn into the deal between two evils. The major reason is that people are the source of power. Newly formed government can't be less corrupt than its creators and it's pretty obvious. And you are participating in such deal on every elections or referendum.

By the way, they still have their old government and parliament, they haven't created anything new. And that was right decision, much better then running another coup without any reason.
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May 05, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
Yep, of the two evils you choose the lesser one. For example the one that does not prosecute you for using your mother tongue.

Well , if you keep choosing the lesser evil instead of sending them both to hell with a fork down their a** , I doubt that even the fourth generation will live in a decent country.
We Romanians have made always this choice , and 20 years from 89 we still have to choose between two evils.
The only good thing is that we don't have to choose between two ex kgv officers anymore.
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May 05, 2014, 07:14:09 AM
Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.

IMF means also China Russia and India ... and Ukraine and Moldova Smiley.

Let's check it out 5 years from now on. I bet nothing will have changed , a 5$ extra and the same corruption and many other bad things as before.
This is not really improving , it's just switching your jail cell.

It seems that you have no idea how close Ukraine to ideal case of corrupt state. The only thing left is legalization &taxation of bribery.

In comparison with Ukraine, RF has ideally democratic civil society with zero level of corruption.

You think that Russia is a role model for zero corruption? That is a sad joke , even when comparing it to urk.
So , how will Belorussian be placed compared to the two above?

I didn't say even once that they should continue with the former government , I just said that their current choice is just as bad as doing nothing.
Why choose a less corrupt government when you can start with a fresh one.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 07:12:29 AM
Yep, of the two evils you choose the lesser one. For example the one that does not prosecute you for using your mother tongue.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 07:09:25 AM
Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.

IMF means also China Russia and India ... and Ukraine and Moldova Smiley.

Let's check it out 5 years from now on. I bet nothing will have changed , a 5$ extra and the same corruption and many other bad things as before.
This is not really improving , it's just switching your jail cell.

It seems that you have no idea how close Ukraine to ideal case of corrupt state. The only thing left is legalization & taxation of bribery.

In comparison with Ukraine, RF has an ideal democratic civil society, with zero level of corruption.
hero member
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May 05, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.

IMF means also China Russia and India ... and Ukraine and Moldova Smiley.

Let's check it out 5 years from now on. I bet nothing will have changed , a 5$ extra and the same corruption and many other bad things as before.
This is not really improving , it's just switching your jail cell.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 06:46:13 AM
Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.

Sometimes you have to chose the less evil side, when there is no other choice. And I think Ukraine would be better with Putin rather than they will be with Tymoshenko, the EU and the IMF.
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May 05, 2014, 06:37:13 AM
You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.

Well.... the difference is that Tymoshenko / Yatsenyuk is much more corrupt when compared to Putin. Russia might be corrupt, but the living standards are much better than that in Ukraine.

Choosing between two evils ... that's not really choosing Smiley. It's signing your way to slavery.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 06:27:08 AM
You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.

Well.... the difference is that Tymoshenko / Yatsenyuk is much more corrupt when compared to Putin. Russia might be corrupt, but the living standards are much better than that in Ukraine.
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May 05, 2014, 06:23:43 AM
They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

Still much cheaper when compared to the Adler–Krasnaya Polyana road (28 miles long, cost almost $7 billion).  With Putin, corruption is always a major concern. He will make sure that the contract goes to his friends only.  Angry

You didn't say that... did you?
So they've changed one corrupt government for another corrupt government, just as I said two months ago Smiley. Welcome to mother Russia Smiley.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 06:03:27 AM
People of Crimea are enjoying their increased salaries and pensions, while those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Odessa are getting murdered by the Right Sector.
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 05:24:30 AM
They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

Still much cheaper when compared to the Adler–Krasnaya Polyana road (28 miles long, cost almost $7 billion).  With Putin, corruption is always a major concern. He will make sure that the contract goes to his friends only.  Angry
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May 05, 2014, 03:21:50 AM
They still have to decide is it going to be just one big motor-railway bridge, or somewhat smaller bridge and a tunnel. Anyway, total costs may climb up to staggering 3 billion $  Shocked

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/730446
legendary
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May 05, 2014, 03:15:01 AM
China will be contracted to build a transport (railway) bridge to Crimea over the Kerch strait:
http://www.gazeta.ru/auto/news/2014/05/05/n_6129569.shtml

(Hope they'll not be using compacted garbage instead of concrete here)
legendary
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May 02, 2014, 07:51:34 AM
Russian banks set up over 250 branches in Crimea and Sevastopol

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-banks-set-up-over-250-branches-in-crimea-and-sevastopol-345978.html

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Residents and legal entities of the Crimean federal district have opened more than 90,000 accounts at the region's branches of Russian and Ukrainian banks, Crimean Deputy Finance Minister Natalya Fedchun has said, adding that Russian banks have already set up 255 branches on the peninsula.

lol... the Ukrainian financial boycott is not actually working.  Grin
legendary
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May 02, 2014, 06:56:56 AM
This thread seems like PrimeDice billboard.
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May 02, 2014, 05:53:10 AM
This is a good thing from my viewpoint.  I don't dare say I know what is best but I think this is up there on my list for what could be considered a positive outcome to a very serious problem.

You just sound like a politician.
You express you concern you are welcoming the results whatever it might be but at the same point you're not saying to much to make people quote you in the future about your political "view" in case you were wrong.
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May 01, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
This is a good thing from my viewpoint.  I don't dare say I know what is best but I think this is up there on my list for what could be considered a positive outcome to a very serious problem.
legendary
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May 01, 2014, 07:45:46 PM
Crimea's reunification with Russia was result of Ukrainian crisis

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/730081

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“The reunification of Crimea and Sevastopol with Russia was not a well-thought-out decision but rather reaction to the development of the crisis in Ukraine, which had been orchestrated from outside,” Primakov said. He said Russia “took measures to ensure security of the peninsula’s population during the vote from raids and provocations by radicals”. Primakov also noted that the unity was massive.
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