"Naturally, we will never give up Crimea, despite all the threats and sanctions from the United States - said Dmitry Sablin. - In addition to patriotic rhetoric, which, of course, is not the last place, and you cannot throw away the words of the song about Sevastopol, which is considered the city of glory of Russian sailors, Crimea is a strategic location in military terms. If you take a historical analogy, it's like Stalingrad in 1942 — if the Soviet troops could not hold out on the Volga then, the Germans would break through to Baku, the Urals, India. And sanctions... Flies are annoying to a bear, but he just shrugs them off"
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/how-russia-ruined-american-plans-in.html
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Some good news from Crimea. When the republic reunified with Russia, one of the programs that was set into motion was revival of its health sector. 17 hospital buildings needed a major overhaul, as they never been revamp since they were built about 50 years ago. New X-Ray and tomography machines were installed, and the ambulance service was overhauled. The health sector of Crimea starts to get into a civilised state now.
The state of the Russian public healthcare system is still not very good (especially in the provinces). Outside the two major cities (Moscow & Sankt Peterburg) and the rich provinces (HMAO, YNAO, Krasnodar.etc), the medical facilities are in a state of ruin. Just compare the death rates (per 1,000 population) in Moscow to those in Pskov or Novgorod, and you will get the picture.
As people of Crimea, Sevastopol and the rest of Russia are celebrating the second anniversary of their reunification, Mogerini - the US Manchurian Candidate within EU and a bitter crone in her own right - is urging UN(!) to impose "moar sanctionz" on Russia - for Russia's lifting of the 60-year-long occupation of Crimea by Ukraine, where over the last 24 years the Crimeans were meat with especially vicious Ukrainisation attempts, while the weeks before the secession they were murdered and tortured by Ukro-Nazis, who came to Crimea to, as they were defining it, "teach Crimeans how to love Ukraine".
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/es_prizval_strany_oon_prisoedinitsya_k_sankciyam_protiv_rossii
Seeing Mogerini's attempts is quite comical, when the countries within EU (including Mogerini's homeland - Italia) are crying for abolition of the sanctions, which are severely hurting EU, while helping Russia promote its own agriculture.
Meanwhile, here are some photo's from the celebration of the anniversary:
http://www.krym.aif.ru/society/dva_goda_v_rossii_kak_v_krymu_otmechayut_vtoruyu_godovshchinu_referenduma
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/es_prizval_strany_oon_prisoedinitsya_k_sankciyam_protiv_rossii
Seeing Mogerini's attempts is quite comical, when the countries within EU (including Mogerini's homeland - Italia) are crying for abolition of the sanctions, which are severely hurting EU, while helping Russia promote its own agriculture.
Meanwhile, here are some photo's from the celebration of the anniversary:
http://www.krym.aif.ru/society/dva_goda_v_rossii_kak_v_krymu_otmechayut_vtoruyu_godovshchinu_referenduma
Some good news from Crimea. When the republic reunified with Russia, one of the programs that was set into motion was revival of its health sector. 17 hospital buildings needed a major overhaul, as they never been revamp since they were built about 50 years ago. New X-Ray and tomography machines were installed, and the ambulance service was overhauled. The health sector of Crimea starts to get into a civilised state now.
Drunk as a skunk. 
Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Crimean Republic, Ruslan Balbek, said that they have verified information that Turkish military instructors are dislocated in Kherson oblast and that they are preparing mercenaries for warfare in both open landscape and in urban conditions:
http://lenta.ru/news/2016/03/05/crimea/
http://lenta.ru/news/2016/03/05/crimea/
Avakov, organiser of the Nazi punisher battalions and currently the interior minister of Ukraine, said in a televised interview to Poroshenko's TV channel 1+1, that Ukraine is preparing NG battalions for armed invasion into and occupation of Crimea:
https://rns.online/military/Glava-MVD-Ukraini-zayavil-o-podgotovke-silovih-struktur-dlya-vozvrascheniya-Krima-2016-02-26/
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https://rns.online/military/Glava-MVD-Ukraini-zayavil-o-podgotovke-silovih-struktur-dlya-vozvrascheniya-Krima-2016-02-26/
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It is just a wishful thinking on the Ukrainian part.
If they plan to attack Russia, they better first acquire nuclear weapons and modernize their army etc. They would need to spend billions to even stand a chance. 10-20 years time frame, IMHO. What this guy is talking about is just hot air to get votes. Total BS.
You don't wake up a bear with a stick. You better carry a .308 semi-auto.
Very interesting. Well, it´ll all probably be moot points in due course. Russia will never return Crimea come hell or high water, or so I believe. The western powers will resign to this as will Ukraine, it´ll take time. The sanctions haven´t worked and they won´t work so they´re useless. And they´re very harmful for Europe. The more time that passes the more the public in western countries will wonder how alleged violations of international law can´t be brought before a court of justice, why law has to be enforced by sanctions and threats and violence. So there´ll be pressure on politicians.
Forget about Crimea. Some of the Ukrainian right-wing politicians are arguing that the rebel-controlled areas of Donbass (LNR / DNR) should never be allowed back in to Ukraine.
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/alexander-j-motyl-why-reintegrating-the-donbas-is-suicide-for-ukraine-408879.html
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/alexander-j-motyl/why-reintegrating-donbas-suicide-ukraine
Actually this is the most logical thing to do. The Donbass residents don't want anything to do with Ukraine. If the Kiev junta continues to occupy Donbass, then the war will go on for ever.
Well, I think they´re going to need more than battalions to invade the Crimea through the Perekop Isthmus. It´s eminently defensible.
Avakov, organiser of the Nazi punisher battalions and currently the interior minister of Ukraine, said in a televised interview to Poroshenko's TV channel 1+1, that Ukraine is preparing NG battalions for armed invasion into and occupation of Crimea:
https://rns.online/military/Glava-MVD-Ukraini-zayavil-o-podgotovke-silovih-struktur-dlya-vozvrascheniya-Krima-2016-02-26/
Looks like more populism from the defunct former Ukraine.
Russian parliamentarian sent a request to the Prosecutor General Chaika to investigate TripAdvisor with regard to them publishing maps with Crimea in Ukraine:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/2/26/796457.html
https://rns.online/military/Glava-MVD-Ukraini-zayavil-o-podgotovke-silovih-struktur-dlya-vozvrascheniya-Krima-2016-02-26/
Looks like more populism from the defunct former Ukraine.
Russian parliamentarian sent a request to the Prosecutor General Chaika to investigate TripAdvisor with regard to them publishing maps with Crimea in Ukraine:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/2/26/796457.html
Very interesting. Well, it´ll all probably be moot points in due course. Russia will never return Crimea come hell or high water, or so I believe. The western powers will resign to this as will Ukraine, it´ll take time. The sanctions haven´t worked and they won´t work so they´re useless. And they´re very harmful for Europe. The more time that passes the more the public in western countries will wonder how alleged violations of international law can´t be brought before a court of justice, why law has to be enforced by sanctions and threats and violence. So there´ll be pressure on politicians.
Nemo, let me know if I have this right
Crimea became an autonomous republic within Ukraine when the latter became independent in 1991. In 1992 the Supreme Council of Russia (not sure if I have the exact name of that body right) decreed that the transfer of 1954 had been illegal. The government elected in Crimea promised in 1994 to return the peninsula to Russia, but the plan didn´t came to fruition. And in 1997 when Russia was totally bottoming in the Yeltsin mess the Russians conceded that Crimea was part of Ukraine after all; however I´m not so sure that they actually included Sevastopol in that concession. It seems unlikely, given the naval base´s huge importance for Russian national security.
Crimea became an autonomous republic within Ukraine when the latter became independent in 1991. In 1992 the Supreme Council of Russia (not sure if I have the exact name of that body right) decreed that the transfer of 1954 had been illegal. The government elected in Crimea promised in 1994 to return the peninsula to Russia, but the plan didn´t came to fruition. And in 1997 when Russia was totally bottoming in the Yeltsin mess the Russians conceded that Crimea was part of Ukraine after all; however I´m not so sure that they actually included Sevastopol in that concession. It seems unlikely, given the naval base´s huge importance for Russian national security.
Correct for the most part. Though it's the first time I hear of the Crimean government promising reunification with Russia - I don't see how they would be in any position to make such promises, especially taking the November 1993 events in Moscow - Yeltsin's coup d'etat and the massacre of the defenders of the Parliament - into account.
When it comes to Sevastopol, as far as I know, no written agreement was reached - Ukraine simply took it "by force". Sevastopol was not part of Crimea in any form - it was a "city of special Union importance" within USSR. When the Union fell apart, Russia was the legal heir of the Union, so Sevastopol should have become an enclave of the Russian Federation regardless of the status of Crimea.
The chronology of the 90s is interesting and important.
20th of January 1991 - referendum in the Crimean region of the Ukrainian SSR with the following wording "For recreation of Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as a subject of USSR and a member of the Union agreement." 93.26% voted "for". Participated 1441019 people.
12th of February 1991 - Ukrainian Rada passes the law "On recreation of Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic" and makes an amendment to the Constitution of the Ukrainian SSR. However, said law ignored the highlighted part of the referendum question regarding Crimea becoming a separate republic.
24th of August 1991 - Supreme Council of Ukrainian SSR passes an act on independence of Ukraine.
4th of September 1991 - Supreme Council of the Crimean Autonomous republic passes a declaration about sovereignty of the republic within Ukraine.
1st of December 1991 - Crimeans participate in the Ukrainian referendum on independence of Ukraine. 54% voted for. However the 3rd article of the Soviet Constitution "On the issue related to the exit of a union republic from the USSR" was violated. According to that article, a separate Crimean referendum should have been held, with the question of Crimea remaining as part of USSR or as part of Ukraine.
5th of May 1992 - Supreme Council of Crimea passes "The act of proclamation of state independence of the Republic of Crimea". At the same time Russian Parliament voted for invalidation of the 1954 decision regarding transfer of Crimea into Ukrainian SSR.
6th of May 1992 - Supreme Council of Crimea passes the Crimean Constitution, which contradicts the Ukrainian Constitution. The post of the President of Crimea is also established. (This Crimean Constitution and the post of President were cancelled by Ukrainian Rada only on the 17th of March 1995.)
5th of December 1994 - Budapest memorandum, when Ukraine forfeited nuclear weapons, while the guarantor countries agreed to respect territorial integrity of Ukraine - de facto Russia forfeited claims on Crimea. However, the Budapest memorandum was not ratified by any of the parties and is thus not legally binding.
21st of October 1998 - A new Constitution of Crimea is passed. Pro-Russian sentiment in Crimea starts growing.
Galdur, I'll do some research into the 1994 promise that you allege to...
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Ukrainian citizens love to make bus trips in Russian Federation.
Ukrainian citizens love to make bus trips in Russian Federation.
Vika, I find this sort of glee disgraceful. Actually any kind of glee, whichever side it comes from.
Nemo, let me know if I have this right
Crimea became an autonomous republic within Ukraine when the latter became independent in 1991. In 1992 the Supreme Council of Russia (not sure if I have the exact name of that body right) decreed that the transfer of 1954 had been illegal. The government elected in Crimea promised in 1994 to return the peninsula to Russia, but the plan didn´t came to fruition. And in 1997 when Russia was totally bottoming in the Yeltsin mess the Russians conceded that Crimea was part of Ukraine after all; however I´m not so sure that they actually included Sevastopol in that concession. It seems unlikely, given the naval base´s huge importance for Russian national security.
Crimea became an autonomous republic within Ukraine when the latter became independent in 1991. In 1992 the Supreme Council of Russia (not sure if I have the exact name of that body right) decreed that the transfer of 1954 had been illegal. The government elected in Crimea promised in 1994 to return the peninsula to Russia, but the plan didn´t came to fruition. And in 1997 when Russia was totally bottoming in the Yeltsin mess the Russians conceded that Crimea was part of Ukraine after all; however I´m not so sure that they actually included Sevastopol in that concession. It seems unlikely, given the naval base´s huge importance for Russian national security.
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Ukrainian citizens love to make bus trips in Russian Federation.
Former Prime-Minister of Ukraine, Azarov, said that Ukraine will have to acknowledge loss of Crimea:
https://rns.online/economy/Eks-premer-Ukraini-azarov-uveren-v-neizbezhnosti-priznaniya-Zapadom-vhozhdeniya-Krima-v-sostav-RF-2016-02-17/
Poklonskaja says Crimean Tatars continue writing to her, asking for protection against the false leaders of Mjelis:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/2/16/794548.html
https://rns.online/economy/Eks-premer-Ukraini-azarov-uveren-v-neizbezhnosti-priznaniya-Zapadom-vhozhdeniya-Krima-v-sostav-RF-2016-02-17/
Poklonskaja says Crimean Tatars continue writing to her, asking for protection against the false leaders of Mjelis:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/2/16/794548.html
In her re-blog of my translation, Lada added some additional strokes to the image of Khrushchev and the roots of his anti-Stalinism, which played such a fateful role in USSR's history
Read "Lada’s Post Scriptum" at:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/who-and-how-transferred-crimea-into-ukrainian-soviet-socialist-republic-in-1952-1954/
Read "Lada’s Post Scriptum" at:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/who-and-how-transferred-crimea-into-ukrainian-soviet-socialist-republic-in-1952-1954/
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In the defense of those who made that decision it can be said that the transfer was made in the context of Ukraine being a forever integral part of the USSR, and an inseparable part of Russia. It never occurred to any of these men that in the year 1991 the USSR could simply fall apart.
However, the responsibility still lies with those who failed to take into account the future risks.
In the huge power vacuum that came to be after Stalin’s death, the power struggle between two factions began. Malenkov, who seems to be made responsible by the author of the article, was a clown — a transitional figure. No one really took him seriously and he didn’t wield real power. This was obviously before my time, but I recall my parents’ stories, who were in the know regarding the Soviet political spectrum. The transitional figure of Malenkov was necessary while the real power struggle took place behind the scenes. He was sidelined as soon as Ukrainian (Khrushchev’s) camp was able to get the upper hand over the Georgian (Beria’s) camp.
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In his urge to undo everything that reminded him of Stalin, Khrushchev also eliminated the one thing that kept USSR fully independent of the Western financial system: Soviet gold standard – the alternative system that made USSR impenetrable to financial manipulation. It was for this reason that when the inflation hit the West, in the USSR prices continued going down, while the country was actually experiencing tremendous post-war boom!
Khrushchev agreed to trade internationally in dollars, which destroyed the carefully built system and eventually weakened the USSR’s global bargaining positions, leading to future loss of reputation, clout and eventual disintegration. That act by Khrushchev, together with the Central Committee of the Communist Party, continued later by Brezhnev (perhaps because he was ill-advised, or because it was simply too late to turn back), set the stage for the relentless takeover of the world by the dollar, and later, petrodollar. When the USSR simply surrendered its positions, there was no financial alternative or counterweight left. The result is the grave global imbalance we are observing today.
However, the responsibility still lies with those who failed to take into account the future risks.
In the huge power vacuum that came to be after Stalin’s death, the power struggle between two factions began. Malenkov, who seems to be made responsible by the author of the article, was a clown — a transitional figure. No one really took him seriously and he didn’t wield real power. This was obviously before my time, but I recall my parents’ stories, who were in the know regarding the Soviet political spectrum. The transitional figure of Malenkov was necessary while the real power struggle took place behind the scenes. He was sidelined as soon as Ukrainian (Khrushchev’s) camp was able to get the upper hand over the Georgian (Beria’s) camp.
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In his urge to undo everything that reminded him of Stalin, Khrushchev also eliminated the one thing that kept USSR fully independent of the Western financial system: Soviet gold standard – the alternative system that made USSR impenetrable to financial manipulation. It was for this reason that when the inflation hit the West, in the USSR prices continued going down, while the country was actually experiencing tremendous post-war boom!
Khrushchev agreed to trade internationally in dollars, which destroyed the carefully built system and eventually weakened the USSR’s global bargaining positions, leading to future loss of reputation, clout and eventual disintegration. That act by Khrushchev, together with the Central Committee of the Communist Party, continued later by Brezhnev (perhaps because he was ill-advised, or because it was simply too late to turn back), set the stage for the relentless takeover of the world by the dollar, and later, petrodollar. When the USSR simply surrendered its positions, there was no financial alternative or counterweight left. The result is the grave global imbalance we are observing today.
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