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It all comes back to the intention and determination that must be instilled in the addict to be really serious about stopping gambling, and if he still continues to play it means that the addict does not have a very serious intention to stop. Because they still follow or are influenced by their desire to gamble, making it difficult for them to get out, which is actually their own fault.
Because stopping gambling must start from the sincerity of the addict's intentions and determination first, then the support of the people around him, especially his family or partner, and apart from that, he must also get closer to God. And in my opinion all three are enough, and the most important thing is the intention and seriousness of the addict so that the process goes well.
And the OP's story is like an addict who is lost and also feels like he doesn't have a family because there is no support or advice as the OP wrote, and it's normal for it to go that far.
I won't call myself an addict but I gamble a lot The issues that people are facing just because they gamble make me feel like they choose to live their lives like that. The reason I said so is that there are a lot of rich men who gamble every day when they are out chilling with their friends. It is a lifestyle and how you live with it is a choice because, I see, some people look miserable and they all blame it on gambling and not on themselves. I don't think I have the intention to stop gambling now. and people don't listen if your life is going very badly, it will be best for them to stop but they have enjoyed money from gambling and they don't want to stop. and people like that will find it difficult to stop If they can not stop on their own, then they should get help it will be better that way, before they lose themselves totally and end up committing suicide.

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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

You're not in their shoes, it could be a lot more harder for them to understand why they have an excessive urge to gamble.
Yes, It could be mental health problem, but most addicted gamblers are not aware that they are really into a sh*t situation, not until they realize they've already lost everything.
Lack of support? Nah, If that person is not interested in cutting of gambling completely out of his daily routine, that support means really nothing. You can force him to go for a rehab, but most likely he's still gonna come back to gamble. Combating gambling addiction starts from ones self. Otherwise, It could be a very rough journey forcing someone to withdraw against gambling addiction. The same goes to people who are alcoholics and drug addicts. Even cigarette addiction is really hard to get rid off. Sometimes you'll get withdrawal sickness.

Addiction can be stopped, but hardly will an addict quit gambling. Addicts are informed to stop, not quit because it's impossible or not wrong to gamble. We only try to remind the addicts that they're going quite too fast into destroying their emotions. When we argue this with the addict, he develops a countervailing reaction. He could blankly stare at us for uttering such words. The addict is emotionally detached from whatever is happening around him. Hence, his attitude is centered on what he believes in gambling. Nothing else could get him out of such thoughts.

Gamblers who are into such problems, lose old friends and hardly will see a fresh one. If one is opportune to have help around him, sooner he'd be fine. And have a change of mind. Although we all need to be smart on this and act professionally. It's a mind game, and they must be a winner. Going to show the addict your plans towards him are a threat to him. He'll get prepared waiting for any moment you tend to reach out to them.

He'll also prepare his answers to whatever questions he presumes you'd ask him that day. The conversation can't end in peace. That wasn't a conversation, anyway. It's a mental tug-of-war. Relieving this stress helps reduce the problems of the addict. He needs to focus on whatever he's doing. We can only be of help when we claim to be or act like him. Picking up the best possible means of being of help to him, works faster. The relationship we build with the addict while on his side, makes him hear from us.

Isolation is bad emotionally for any human, addicted or not. Humans are meant to network and communicate with people around them. Naturally having conversations not relating to gambling with an addict, helps sharpen his thought for a minute or two. Continuously doing it can change his brain entirely to that perspective, which you seized the opportunity to embed in his thoughts. The goal isn't to make him quit but to stop him from compulsive gambling.
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

You're not in their shoes, it could be a lot more harder for them to understand why they have an excessive urge to gamble.
Yes, It could be mental health problem, but most addicted gamblers are not aware that they are really into a sh*t situation, not until they realize they've already lost everything.
Lack of support? Nah, If that person is not interested in cutting of gambling completely out of his daily routine, that support means really nothing. You can force him to go for a rehab, but most likely he's still gonna come back to gamble. Combating gambling addiction starts from ones self. Otherwise, It could be a very rough journey forcing someone to withdraw against gambling addiction. The same goes to people who are alcoholics and drug addicts. Even cigarette addiction is really hard to get rid off. Sometimes you'll get withdrawal sickness.
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Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

It's evident that the guy you're describing is dealing with a major disastrous impact on his life, and it's probable that he's using gambling to cope with deep mental health issues. If that's the case, he should seek professional assistance. Finally, it's conceivable that he's been so caught up in the gambling cycle that he can't think properly or logically about the implications. This is known as " betting fog," and it can be tough to get out of.
If you are concerned about this individual, there are a few things you may do to assist. First, you might persuade him to consult a specialist who operates in gambling dependence.
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.
All these won't matter if the addicted doesn't realize that he is addicted, and the way that OP wrote this story makes me believe that there is no awareness from the addicted gambler, there is never going to be a way to break free from something thats no problem to thr addicted one.

Every addicted gamblers must realize that they are addicted, this awareness will make them to crave for a change, at least they are struggling to break free, but what about someone who dont know that they are in a chain of addiction? To them, they are doing just fine, no problem at all.

You can't solve a problem where there is no one, if they can't realize that they are addicted they can't solve any problems, I think this person may have lose his right sense already, he needs to be taken to a health center for a check-up, the question is where are his families?
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Gambling is very bad. I have also experienced someone keeping his family out of food for months because of gambling just his wife struggling to make sure she feeds the children or he does go to work gamble drink and come home the next day go to work gamble drink and come home each time he takes his payment 95% is going for gambling 5% is maybe for other things he don’t even care about his family anymore gambling has taken over him. He always have this mindset of getting back or he has lost in gambling, which is not possible when looking at it because he is not gambling wisely yes, this really happened you are right.
This could be worst, and once you’re addicted in gambling it seems that you don’t care anymore to the people around you even if its your love ones. Please be reminded that if you are going to gamble that much, you should keep in your mind about your limit and being responsible is always advisable. Gambling addictions took life of many gamblers already, and this continues because people are being too emotional and yet they gamble that much.

I agree. I didn't expect that I would see this in my brother-in-law who was so addicted he took the savings of his own nephew and gambled it away. Then all his borrowed money floated when he was nowhere to be seen. All the people he took a loan with are telling his mother to pay up. Now, he is still hiding somewhere we don't know and my wife (his sister) doesn't really care anymore because she said this is not only once, he had been doing it a lot of times.

I suggested rehabilitation once he goes back but I am guessing they won't listen to me. I bet once all the loaned money was paid by his relatives he will surface again and go back to his gambling habits.
It can ruin lives, that is real. So guys, please be responsible when you gamble. You just don't know when you will get addicted, it may be now or tomorrow, so ask yourselves if you are still in the right path.
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Gambling is very bad. I have also experienced someone keeping his family out of food for months because of gambling just his wife struggling to make sure she feeds the children or he does go to work gamble drink and come home the next day go to work gamble drink and come home each time he takes his payment 95% is going for gambling 5% is maybe for other things he don’t even care about his family anymore gambling has taken over him. He always have this mindset of getting back or he has lost in gambling, which is not possible when looking at it because he is not gambling wisely yes, this really happened you are right.
This could be worst, and once you’re addicted in gambling it seems that you don’t care anymore to the people around you even if its your love ones. Please be reminded that if you are going to gamble that much, you should keep in your mind about your limit and being responsible is always advisable. Gambling addictions took life of many gamblers already, and this continues because people are being too emotional and yet they gamble that much.

Addiction for a married man is worse compared to a single man. Family is the advantage for a married gambler, he'd easily have helpers. But the emotional harm he entrusts on his kids and wife made a single man better off. Especially when he got love from a good therapist. The problem gambler above is undergoing serious pains, I guess he'd be aggressive to anybody that dares talk him down on his gambling attitude. His family will share his pains, and it's early for the young offspring. Addiction is a chronic sickness; the pain stays for a longer period. Hence, the kids will grow up undergoing ill-treatment from an addicted father.

That's actually a rough ride as a fresher in this big blue marble. His kid's future will emotionally be affected, the wrong way. He, the child, can be a gambler or a full-time hater of gambling. While it's wrong to get addicted, one shouldn't grow up to hate a specific exercise. His life won't be complete. Life is only enjoyed when we acknowledge all aspects of living. In a nutshell, gamblers should teach their kids, and envision what the child's future would be if they allow addiction to destroy their childhood. Mood swings have made addicts yell at kids, on slight matters that are not yelling. The child starts to behave strangely.
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This isn't the most cruel one. In the first place, no life is lost in this case. A U-turn is still possible with the help of professionals. Money can be earned once again. He could still get back his family after undergoing therapy and rehabilitation and turning over a new leaf.

Gambling addiction can actually be very brutal and fatal. Around 7 years ago, a gambling addict entered Resorts World casino here in my country, set the gambling tables on fire, fired at people, killing dozens in the process. He stole millions worth of casino chips before killing himself. That's how far gambling addiction could actually go. It can be as deadly as this.
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Gambling is very bad. I have also experienced someone keeping his family out of food for months because of gambling just his wife struggling to make sure she feeds the children or he does go to work gamble drink and come home the next day go to work gamble drink and come home each time he takes his payment 95% is going for gambling 5% is maybe for other things he don’t even care about his family anymore gambling has taken over him. He always have this mindset of getting back or he has lost in gambling, which is not possible when looking at it because he is not gambling wisely yes, this really happened you are right.
This could be worst, and once you’re addicted in gambling it seems that you don’t care anymore to the people around you even if its your love ones. Please be reminded that if you are going to gamble that much, you should keep in your mind about your limit and being responsible is always advisable. Gambling addictions took life of many gamblers already, and this continues because people are being too emotional and yet they gamble that much.
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It's pretty close to a mental illness really and well, you don't question the why of mental illnesses at some point. It just happens. Well for the most part though, some people may really have some "justifiable" reason for them to continue on with gambling but we'd probably never understand or relate to it since from our pov, it'd probably seem really dumb or something but for them? It'd probably be pretty important. Who knows, there might even be the influence of drugs which makes it 100% a mental illness.

And in addition, being used to something kind of just turns off your brain. Like it refuses to understand that you can't anymore but since you were able to for the past year without any problems, you'd think you're still able to.
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Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
When it comes to addiction on which it isnt really that something limited on Gambling alone but also in other forms on which we know that everything which is excessive into our lives will really be that
normal that once you do deal up with something in execessive manner and this one talks about spending money then you would really be losing all because it would really be creating such
domino effect. Lets say that you are that spending too much money and since you are a family guy then it would be normal that you would really be providing needs but what if you have lost it all?
Its common sense that you would really be not able to provide those things anymore on which it would be resulting to separation or divorce on which this would really be the next thing that would happen.
This is why it would be better that you should really be wary on things if you dont like to have a miserable life.

The thing here is that people do only make out those learnings or realizations on the time that they would be experiencing those hardships or messed up situation into their lives
on which they could actually be able to stop it midway.
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The mind of addictive gamblers totally changed after a consecutive losses then they don't think about anyone and continuously gamble just to get back their lost sum but it is not easy in gambling like every gambler thinks. I don't think that gambler will ever try to reduce their gambling habits because they have learned that more they gambler more they will earn which is totally a wrong concept.

Gamblers do not understand with sweet words of their family and if someone's parents teach gambler to stop gambling then it is not possible for him to alter this behavior because gambler thoughts are limited to earning only as well as Love cannot change the thoughts of gamblers.

True, what you mentioned is one of the facts about the actions taken by addicted gamblers where they will not think of ways to stop especially when winning because one of the hardest things for them is to stop when they are in a losing situation which is because they have no ability at all to accept the fact of the consequences of gambling. They think that the idea and action of chasing that win will get them in a recovery situation when the fact remains that when you have ended the previous session with a loss or a win then the next session is likely to change the outcome which means that there is a high chance for you to lose again if you continue gambling with the intention and purpose of recovering something that you have lost.

I think it is a fact that it is very unlikely for them to really listen to the advice of others, whoever you are even if for example you are one of their family still they will not listen to any advice because addicted gamblers have a high ambition to pursue something that has been lost based on emotions and unreasonable beliefs. 
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The mind of addictive gamblers totally changed after a consecutive losses then they don't think about anyone and continuously gamble just to get back their lost sum but it is not easy in gambling like every gambler thinks. I don't think that gambler will ever try to reduce their gambling habits because they have learned that more they gambler more they will earn which is totally a wrong concept.

Gamblers do not understand with sweet words of their family and if someone's parents teach gambler to stop gambling then it is not possible for him to alter this behavior because gambler thoughts are limited to earning only as well as Love cannot change the thoughts of gamblers.
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
There are different reasons why he won't stop even after losing everything.

An addicted gambler requires mental or emotional support from someone, like his family, specialist, wife, or anyone close to him. Addicted gamblers who lost everything do not know any more where he need to go or what he can do to turn back to his previous lifestyle. Without anyone to talk to with his gambling addiction, the only thing he can think of is to continue gambling where he sees a future if he can possibly win back his losses.

A motivation, where he can completely put his mind on one thing. The one thing he can focus on completely forgetting about his gambling addiction is to change his life and become a better person.

Someone who can bring them to the right path and show them that gambling addiction will only bring harm not only to themselves but also to their family.
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I think it's as he hasn't realized that he's addicted to gambling, some individual don't know that they're addicted to gambling until it's too late for them to stop but some others come to their senses and they try to stop gambling as they have known that it's what is responsible for the unfortunate life that they're having. Gambling addiction is dangerous as you might think that you're gambling like others but you're not and you're in debts as you already have borrowed to gamble.

Sometime Gambling addiction can do more damage to you than only making you to lose money. Some addition also affects the gamblers mindset and it can make them to become abnormal in their thinking and they'll begin to do things like a mad individual. Gambling addiction has different phrases, you might have seen one of the worst cases of addiction. Some individual go as far as to sell everything to gamble.

In my opinion, when they gamble excessively, it is a sign that they are addicted to gambling, but they don't want to admit it, they don't want to admit that they are addicted, maybe because they are embarrassed too. The more they eat like that, the closer they will be to gambling so that it will be difficult to separate them, unless they themselves realize that they are addicted to gambling and this has caused them to experience many losses, not only financial. It is true that you say that gambling addiction is a dangerous thing because it can be detrimental and can even ruin a person's life.

Indeed, there will be many things that can be harmed by gambling addiction, the main thing is money, and perhaps another is health or relationships, because there are also people who become stressed because they keep losing at gambling and families who divorce because of unstable finances because of one of the parties. some of them are addicted to gambling. because when gambling everything can be done to make money, borrow money or sell property owned or even steal to the detriment of other people.
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He still curious with gambling and still wants to knows more. He doesn't care if that will cost him a home, business and even family because his focus will be gambling. He must realizes that what's he doing is wrong and someone must comes to him and tells the truth to him. His family must reminds him about his gambling activity and not let him go back to gambling daily.

We don't knows what's his minds, especially if he playing gambling without stop. If he lose his money, he will comes back to the casino and continue to playing gambling. He becomes addicted to gambling and we don't knows how to cure his addiction.
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It all comes back to the intention and determination that must be instilled in the addict to be really serious about stopping gambling, and if he still continues to play it means that the addict does not have a very serious intention to stop. Because they still follow or are influenced by their desire to gamble, making it difficult for them to get out, which is actually their own fault.
Because stopping gambling must start from the sincerity of the addict's intentions and determination first, then the support of the people around him, especially his family or partner, and apart from that, he must also get closer to God. And in my opinion all three are enough, and the most important thing is the intention and seriousness of the addict so that the process goes well.
And the OP's story is like an addict who is lost and also feels like he doesn't have a family because there is no support or advice as the OP wrote, and it's normal for it to go that far.
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Gambling is very bad. I have also experienced someone keeping his family out of food for months because of gambling just his wife struggling to make sure she feeds the children or he does go to work gamble drink and come home the next day go to work gamble drink and come home each time he takes his payment 95% is going for gambling 5% is maybe for other things he don’t even care about his family anymore gambling has taken over him. He always have this mindset of getting back or he has lost in gambling, which is not possible when looking at it because he is not gambling wisely yes, this really happened you are right.
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That's bound to happen when things become a mess in your life and it's because of your addiction, you don't know anyone and what they truly are capable of until they show it to you, that's why when things become worse for you especially if you've been asking for loans from a lot of people and you use those loans to gamble hoping to get that win you've been looking for a while now, you're bound to meet the person that would rather hurt you than wait for you to payback the loan, they know or assume that you won't pay it anymore, so they might as well get back on you by hurting you. It shouldn't come that far but things will escalate especially if you don't do anything about it.

Definitely cruel and I hope that person is alright after all that hurt that he's been through, I hope that it's a lesson for everyone of us too, that things will get worse and we have the power to not go to that point.
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It's really tough seeing how gambling addiction can hit people differently and what you described is just heartbreaking. Some people just can't seem to break free from it even when it's cost them everything. Addiction's a real beast because it messes with your head and makes it hard to see straight. Sometimes it's not just about willpower, there could be a whole bunch of stuff going on in their lives making it hard to quit. Maybe they're dealing with other issues like depression or anxiety or they just feel stuck in a cycle they can't break. It's tough to watch but reaching out and offering support could make all the difference. Encouraging them to get professional help or join a support group might be a good idea, it's all about showing them they're not alone and there's a way out of this mess
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