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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.
Yes to the general notion of being able to be redeemed from the addiction, but the major work still rely on the addict himself wether or not they ready to change to move over they addiction level, this is very important because that is the point they going to begin from, sometimes if the addicted person himself has not acknowledge the impact of addiction on they general well being, there can not been any impact of effort of another third party that can save them from the whole thing.


First there must be the will spirit in the addict that will place him alone a position of possible excape since he is already determine to quit gambling.
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I'm guessing that the person you're talking about is still desperate to recover all his losses and can't think of any other ways to get it. What you've seen is probably the second to the highest level of addiction. The worst I've witnessed are the ones who steal money so they could continue to fund their gambling.
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The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

I think it's as he hasn't realized that he's addicted to gambling, some individual don't know that they're addicted to gambling until it's too late for them to stop but some others come to their senses and they try to stop gambling as they have known that it's what is responsible for the unfortunate life that they're having. Gambling addiction is dangerous as you might think that you're gambling like others but you're not and you're in debts as you already have borrowed to gamble.

Sometime Gambling addiction can do more damage to you than only making you to lose money. Some addition also affects the gamblers mindset and it can make them to become abnormal in their thinking and they'll begin to do things like a mad individual. Gambling addiction has different phrases, you might have seen one of the worst cases of addiction. Some individual go as far as to sell everything to gamble.
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

There would be no such thing as a gambling rehabilitation program or gambling-related problems if an addicted gambler could think properly.

Since these people can't think properly anymore, they don't know what's the best thing to do as they rely on gambling to solve anything.

We can blame that person for allowing themselves to be like that but in that critical and worst situation already that are stuck with, that's not important anymore as these people badly need help. It's the unfortunate reality that we can see anywhere in gambling.
There is a rehabilitation programme for those who are addicted to something in general, meaning any addiction, drugs, gambling, and many more, in our country, even though it is not open or fully discussed. I know we do have establishments that offer rehab for those individuals that need help in terms of gambling, and I'd say I'm not sure if this thing is effective, but it's better than nothing, right? If there's a last resort, I think rehab is the best option in order for the gambler to minimise and slowly help him avoid or stop his gambling addiction. Personally,  I think this programme is going to help those people in deed for their addiction. As I said, rehabilitation centres here in my country are general.

Honestly, it's the fault of what the OP is saying; he is the one who is responsible for himself, which is why he is in that miserable position or situation.
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So, in short, what you're asking for OP is why he doesn't stop, even though he's feeling miserable because of it. It's very simple. This is a mechanism that exist in every other addictive activity, like drinking alcohol, playing computer games, watching movies, eating disorders. Why do fat people keep eating a lot even when they know that it's destroying their lives? Why do people with lung cancer continue to smoke? Addiction turns of the sane part of your brain. You ask if he's crazy and the answer is yes. Auto destructive activities are a sign of mental illness. At some point you won't be able to get back on your feet without some help from others. He needs help.
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

There would be no such thing as a gambling rehabilitation program or gambling-related problems if an addicted gambler could think properly.

Since these people can't think properly anymore, they don't know what's the best thing to do as they rely on gambling to solve anything.

We can blame that person for allowing themselves to be like that but in that critical and worst situation already that are stuck with, that's not important anymore as these people badly need help. It's the unfortunate reality that we can see anywhere in gambling.
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I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.
I feel bad for people like this, there are some people that are addicted to gambling, they really know about their addiction, and they are really trying to stop gambling, but it’s just kind of difficult for them. When addiction has eaten deep into you, even when you are trying to stop, it’s always difficult to stop.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.
When you realize your mistake, the next thing to do is how to find a solution to the mess you have caused, you shouldn’t keep on with the bad behavior. You have been harmed badly due to gambling addiction, you already know that you made a mistake by being addicted to gambling, then you should just stop gambling, if you keep on gambling, you are causing more harm to yourself.
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But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.


Like any other activity that makes a person feel good, gambling can lead to addiction.
Gambling can become addictive when it is used compulsively and becomes out of control.
Similar to alcohol and drug addiction, gambling addicts require more gambling over time to feel satisfied.
They prioritize getting what they want over what they need.
And the best way to overcome addiction is to seek help from a psychologist or psychiatrist.
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Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
Some people just couldn't quit or break away from their addiction.
Not everyone could go back to their normal life after being addicted to something, I saw some who could restrain their self for some period of time, but they would eventually come back to their addiction.
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

Yes it is true that gambling addiction has its own level depending on how badly they treat gambling in the wrong way, or I mean depending on how aggressively they treat their gambling activities, and if you ask me about why they still continue their gambling activities when on the other hand they have lost all the valuable things in their lives such as large amounts of money, homes, businesses and families in my opinion it is simple that they have not been able to reach the level of awareness in themselves and also they have not been able to be in a situation to understand the fact that gambling is about winning and losing or gambling is a risky activity.

You only know a few of them where what you know is that a person who is addicted to gambling can turn back or stop and get out of the gambling zone while on the other hand there is a very chronic level of addiction where it is really very difficult for them to achieve self-awareness, they are still in a situation of not being able to let go of all that has been lost so they are still gambling which is where they have the goal of returning something that has been lost which is actually quite an impossible thing to achieve, because that action is like you are chasing your own shadow and I am sure that everything will still end up with significant regret.
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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.

It's a stage of addiction, not the fault of the addict, he's only undergoing a series of addictive levels. At a stage, the gambler will never want help from anybody, or think these people trust him. The addict's thoughts will revolve around him believing he'd achieve more in life than those people who try to help him stop gambling. However, at some point, he'd begin to have a rethink. What is most important is that he's getting a response from people. Not just letting him continue this way, when people talk to us about something they don't like us doing, it first hits us as though an insult. But to a non-addict, he'll only see it as the person's response and nothing else attached. That doesn't stop us from being friends.

An addict will see it as the opposite. He'd avoid the person and get aggressive whenever in touch with the person. Nobody addicts or not wants to get blamed. That's the fastest means of losing a friend. They are ways of changing people's minds other than just going straight to the point and laying blame on them. An addict can't get saved automatically. All these require a gradual process and must be followed gradually. They also deserve love; these people make up the world. The world can't be filled with perfect people. Sometimes I get offended when people tell me to go shave my hair. That doesn't mean it's a problem, but everyone has something they want to do without disturbing anyone else. Shoving it directly to the person's throat isn't right, they're a clever means of telling an addict to cut short his habit.
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
This question can be only answered by a professional from the mental health sector. Your friend should be conducted to psychological treatment or therapy. There he can be helped to understand what is going on with him, and what mental mechanisms he can use to slowly switch off from these obsessive thoughts he developed regards gambling practice. It's important that family members and friends stay close and together in this moment, especially during the beginning of the treatment, which is the period of time the patient needs more attention and observation from the closest ones.

If he will remain like this forever or not, it will depend mainly on his self strength and will to change his conduct. If he doesn't cooperate, you can treat him intensively with the best professionals disponible on the market, that he won't show any positive results. What you can do since now is to encourage him to give up on gambling, inspiring him on how he can revert his current life's conditions if he chooses this path. Retrieving his business, house and family, or achieving new ones.
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.

Actually. You would be impressed on the amount of people who could be considered to be "poor" and end up being trapped by addiction to gambling. It is not a matter of having money or not, it is about the lengths people are willing to go in order to get the money they need to continue to gamble as much as they want.
People within the middle class will sell their cars, take some loans, sell their weeding rings, among other things. People who do not have so much assets will resort to get into ilegal markets, like the trafic of fuel, narcotrafic and even worse things.

It is a good reason there are so many betting and gambling small establishments in the developing world, even though people there do not seem to have resources to spare, they will always get what they need to continue to gamble and satisfy their craving for it. If it was just about liquidity at hand, there were not so many betting places in developing countries as there are.
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.
The gambler in mentioned by OP is an addicted gambler and someone who's addicted can't stop gambling easily. These days I have heard of stories both in this gamble section and outside this community that a male gambler used his life savings to gamble and loose the whole money, about 1 million plus.
It's bad to see people that can not control themselves when it comes to gambling. IMO people that are addicted to gamble don't listen to their friends or family advise, just imagine how the gambler uses his business and house money to gamble and I also believed that this gambling of a thing has cost the gambler more than that.
Recently I witnessed 2 couples got separated because of the guy was a gamble addict and the he used the money for project to gamble and he lost the whe money, but the funniest part is he didn't tell his partner.
I guess their is no way to help a gamble addict because everywhere has a network access and people are always around, if they don't have money to bet they will fund another means to stake with, so the best place a gamble addict can stay a whole year without betting is in prison.
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.
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what is keeping him imprisoned(addicted) could be a lack of social support.
  • Family- mother, father, brother, sister
  • Religious support - Priest, Iman, Rabbi
  • Communal support - Gambling Anonymous groups

People who are addicted and are finding difficult to break free more than ever need love and compassion. They need to know that they have not been abandoned by their family. They need to know that they are loved and their family need to help them overcome it. Strength comes from the mind and it come from the loving and encouraging words from family.

There is no metaphysical forces at play in any addiction. With the necessary support any one can break free from it.
I agree so much with you on this issue, the best way to encourage an erring person to come back on track its by showing him pure love and continuous support, without these, the gambler feels very much excluded ave embraces only what gives him a sense of inclusion, which in this case its continuous gambling. Currently, that's the only thing that gives him joy and hope  as he doesn't have a home, a job, or even a family to go back to, so he clings tightly to his habit.

Its important to note that  many times he thinks of quitting, but the circumstances surrounding him depressed him the more and he's left with little or no option than to fall back and gamble again. He surely needs all the love and support he can get to pull out of that addiction, yes he can pull out of it, but not in this state of abandonment.
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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.
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Addiction is not something that comes once but it is a gradual process something. And all gambling addict arrive at one stage or goal in the addiction. Your first day wins can lure you to gamble more and if you loss in your first day then you would loss interest to continue gambling. Therefore gamblers in gambling is motivated when they win and not the loss. The first stage of gambling is using money and the second stage is to sell small, small things in your house and the nest stage is to sell properties and that is why there op said there stages to gambling addiction. To avoid gambling addiction you don't have to chase your loses.
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I feel for him. This is because he knows that gambling has made him lose everything but he still would not give up, because he still believes that he can hit the jackpot with the next game. False hope is what many gamblers have, and gradually gambling keeps destroying them.

The person needs to be in rehab home, where he will be deprived from gambling for a very long time. I guess that will help him, but he needs his family to succeed in this. I haven't seen such gambler in my entire life. Is it that the losses was what made him mentally sick or something else.
Gambling addicts has always been having huge faith in gambling that it will eventually make them rich, but in reality only the casino gets richer while pushing gamblers into extreme poverty. But since they’re blind to that reality, they still pursue their gambling urge even if it means losing their family and their career.

Sending them into rehabilitation center is the only solution. But before that, they should learn to admit to theirselves that they have fallen into gambling addiction and gambling has eventually made them worst that they lose control of theirselves anymore as long as gambling is concern. And all they need right now is understanding and emotional support coming from their family so they can move forward and take measures from gambling addiction recovery.
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The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
Well more reasons for him not to stop, he already lost it all. This is more reason why as a gambler, you should be able to control you gambling activities and avoid over gambling that will lead to an unstable life. He obviously didn't see anyone who would have set him in the right direction in his early stage of gambling. If he had did, he won't have turned our this way. He won't stop now. He might actually end up in rehab.
His family left him maybe they couldn't bear anymore of his nonsense character but I really think they even added more to his addiction. They were supposed to be with him and help him get back his senses but instead they left him on his own and now he has lost control. Addiction is a really bad thing but if it stopped at an early stage, it may never come to play in first place.
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