Topic: cruel level of addiction, causing harms and still keeping it up - page 4. (Read 539 times)

Of course gambling addiction is cruel and harmful, however addiction is still addiction no matter the level I don't think it should be ever considered as tolerable because sometimes people end up becoming gambling addicts because they overlooked certain bad practices that gradually became used to them and over time caused their addiction. Sometimes gambling addict don't actually realize the damage their addiction influences on both them and their relatives whether directly or indirectly. Sometimes by the time they get to realize what they have lost to their nasty addiction they have already ended up losing soo much.
This is why as a gambler you have to set priorities and limits to help you monitor your gambling activities and habits like stakes , time spent and lots more.

That’s not the highest form of addiction because he still doesn’t affect others but only himself. There’s other scenarios which addicted person kidnapped or do a crime just to gamble which I consider the highest form of addiction because it’s already resorted to violence and crime.

Although this kind of story is really can be considered as very serious since he is inflicting financial damage over and over while he already gets use to it just to gamble. I’m surprised how he can still maintain to gamble with that kind of addiction with limited source of income because a consistent heavy loss will usually makes people already out of money considering the level of his persistency to gamble. He is the type who goes all in using life savings on gambling.

His addiction is what is keeping him from doing it.
When we say addiction, think about those who are drug addicts and alcoholics. Why can't they stop it? Because of the availability of the product or the service in the case of gambling.
Now, we are in an era where we could access gambling sites through our phones or our computers so I guess it will be much harder to stop gambling because of it. It's just one click away so there's really no stopping it.
I am guessing he is way deep and what he may be thinking is not just to play the game but maybe to get back whatever he had lost in gambling which I do believe is impossible when you are a gambling addict because you are not thinking straight anymore.
This kind of case needed help that could be beyond our reach. I mean it cannot be fixed in a simple chat with him. Rehabilitation, keeping him away from gadgets and the internet, some professional help, and maybe medicine to calm him down will be the help he needs. It's a lot but if we want to save his life and straighten it up again, that may be the only solution to it.

It's not the government responsibility to treat theses addicts but they could help somehow. If the level of addition of a certain country has not yet reached the alarm level, then I believe the action of the governmnet is just to make some rehab facilities but they'll not allocate a big budget for that as it's not good in th eyes of the people, they will think that the government are just allowing these people to get addicted instead of preventing it, so theyll not show it to the public even if the problem is already worst.

The best people that could help us is our [1]family , [2] friends, and lastly the government if they can accomodate.

that is the highest level of addiction, where he no longer takes his life into account and just lives it. he realized that his life was ruined, and he was no longer afraid of his addiction, because why would he think of treating his addiction since his life was already a mess and could not be restored. i really feel sorry for seeing people like this who are trapped by their own addiction and no one cares about their addiction. the government should care about these addicts because after all they gamble and provide taxes to the government.

It's hard to advise this kind of gambler, he is too deep into gambling that no amount of encouragement, or good words even if you promise him anything just to stop I don't think he will or he can, he is totally out of control

Gambling addicts are like those people who are addicted to liquor or drugs the body and the mind cannot keep up or function without them, people will wonder what happened to these people but the only cure for these people is rehabilitation, addiction triggers symptoms so the rehabilitation center will try to replace those that trigger these symptoms, its costly and takes a lot of time, but this is the only cure, if the gamble will not go through this plan, healing will not come and the symptoms will surface once triggered.

This addiction to gambling is a severe issue. We're not talking about a little hobby gone wrong, we're talking about a real battle here. I've witnessed the strongest people battle addiction; its a strong force. Its just the way the brain functions; its neither a weakness nor a misfortune.

You see, gambling, like those harmful narcotics, messes with your brain's reward system. This explains why breaking the pattern is so difficult. Folks, here's the thing: it is possible. We must tackle this with intelligence, the greatest experts, and a never-say-die support network. Its about walking that difficult path together and demonstrating that there is a route back, not about shouting "stop it."

Level depends on severity of symptoms. In the given case, your friend is showing obvious signs of addiction and if you're curious of why he is still continuing to gamble despite of the 'damages' he is having, then it is more likely due to frustration in particular with financial needs. Frustration in terms of embracing the losses with hopes of winning at the end but that's with no certainty no matter how we look at it and most likely, loss will just grow as he continues. What's best is for him to accept things even if it won't be that easy; that's the only way out. He should also consider seeking for professional help if he's willing to make things better for himself.
It is easy to understand why but what's hard is to think of a way to help a friend of yours. There will alwys be a side that you really want to but also another side wherein you can't be of any help because everything should start with oneself or with one's initiative. Determination and will would be important things an addicted gambler should posses. Guiding them will just be a little help, it'll all depend on their decision to act upon the problem.

Until you understand that addiction is an impulse disorder then you will not be able to the difficulty he is facing. Most addicts really desire to quit but  they cannot. This is not a matter of taking a U-Turn as you have implied. This can be likened to a sick person who needs medication to get well. An addict also need prescription in form of support by a professional to be able to overcome his addiction. What you witnessed is minimal compared to observation of an addicted gambler. There is a man living in my neighborhood whenever he records an irreparable loss, he turns his wife into a punching bag. At one point, he almost took her life if not for the intervention of the cop.

There is not spiritual about his actions. He is only guided by impulse. This is similar to how one of my friends act. He will gamble with his last card, sometimes sell his property with the intention of using the money for a pressing need but sadly, he will end up using the money for gambling. He will always tell you that he wanted to multiply the money because to him gambling is an investment. I have tried to talk him out from such mindset and each time he is broke he appears to listen and promise not to gamble again but as soon as he has money, he will go back to gamble.  Op, the best thing you will do for the person in question is to link in up to a counselor that can help him overcome his addiction.

This level of addiction could probably be associated with some psychological  implications and I think beyond expecting him to stop gambling he should visit a psychiatrist so that if they could offer him some kind of help then it will probably go a long way helping him becoming a normal person as expected that he should be because he's probably not stable mentally again bat this point just like you did mentioned.

It's very possible he's been traumatized by the losses he's gotten over the years gambling and the only way he could probably get back at it would be gambling continually and that's why he's continued to resulting to still gambling despite all that he's lost to gambling and this level of his addiction can actually be life threatening at some point because when he gets too frustrated by more losses probably after exhausting all that he's got, he may become suicidal with his taughts because the feeling of loosing everything will and can actually be very terrible and really heavy to bear.

He should be watched closely and if possible help him to avoid gambling by every means possible because he can't resist the urge at their point all alone, he will definitely need help , a supervised help so he can gradually hope for a better life while trying to quit gambling aswell because that's like the best way he could be free from this addiction and possibly he could be sent for therapy too that too can aswell help him.

That you on your own as a gambler got into gambling addiction doesn't imply that in same manner you got in on your own doings that's how easily you could get out of the addiction all by yourself. Addiction to any negative attitude or activity is easy to get in but you would need the intentional support of family, friends and a specialized therapist to gradually get out of that dark hole of addiction. So I don't blame addicts when I see they struggling on their own to leave the attitude but couldn't along the way.

It could neither be a spiritual attack or craziness. More often than not , these addicts are in dire need of someone who can listen to them and understand them of what they are battling with on the inside, instead of some persons that are focused on criticizing them for the nasty behavior they exhibit due to the gambling addiction they are known to have. Getting closer to these people that are passing through one addiction to another can help us understand fairly enough how to help them get of their addiction irrespective of the stage of addictiveness they have reach.

I remember when HYIP was still new some years ago, many people can't control themselves when they are in profit, to take the profit off the HYIP platfor became a problem and they will rather see everything folding up in front of their eyes.

So many people are turning their real lives into dreams, they shun reality off their chest once they come across a way of making money online, hoping that it solves all their problems.

I think this person that OP is talking about must be facing some challenges in life, and after coming across gambling they learn to relent instead of gaining control, some people become extra addicted once they gamble a few times and win some unexpected amount, in this moment they will start dreaming about making life changing money in gambling if they can try to take more risks.

Its a self inflicted madness.

Most likely these type of persons suffer from what psychologists call "belonging to something" and the only thing they can think about is gambling.Most probably these persons think that since I lost everything in gambling I must fight till the end to get those things back which is never the case.These persons are so addicted that they can't logically think that gambling in the long run can simply not be fought.Unfortunately these cases have no healing and they are destined to suffer till the very end of their life.

Except you are in the shoes of such people before you can understand, it takes more than determination to break away but the support of concerned people to be able to get away from it. At times it gets to the level of employing someone who is a professional counselor who would monitor the addict and control his exposure rate to gambling until they are finally properly handled. But if it is left for the addict alone, it may not be possible to get out of because no body actually likes to be an addict to a particular substance but when you have lost your control then it just feels normal to indulge in it.

There's one thing with addiction. If you're not actively  and consciously trying to stop any addition, then one is simply not ready. From your post, my candid opinion is that the gambler in question is not ready to stop despite losing everything, he might be hung up on the belief that be best is yet to come and if he gives up now, all losses will be realized FULLY and there is no way to get them back.

Secondly, he would need all the supports he would need — family, friends, loved ones if he'd want to get out of the addiction because he might be too far down to pull himself out

added are Self control mate , because if the person will not use its control then each person will always give chance of being addicted , but all of your comments are truly why each gamblers becoming addicted.
but the big factor is the FAMILY , specially if the person is already having his own family.

It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I never saw or heard a case like this before but base on your description the guy is already suffering some mental problem and not just gambling addiction anymore. This extreme case is already needed psychological attention since his mind is probably just trap in a cycle of gambling because he is not behaving rational based on the damage done on him.

There’s no way for him to stop on his own unless someone will do it for him. It’s already same scenario with substance addiction which the brain only looking for substance that result to abuse.


Obviously his mind, If a person is already not considering his environment and too focus on things that harms him then the problem is already deep on his mind. It’s very hard to recover on this compared to just losing money.

I think that's a normal thing, because that's what will happen if someone is addicted to gambling. With a gambling addiction, of course it will affect one's mental state, because addiction is something that is self-defeating, unclear thinking pushes oneself to continue to enter the danger zone. With the statement that gambling will most likely only end in defeat, it is clear because losing at gambling is the same as losing money, and if we gamble with the wrong motive, such as the aim of winning or pursuing victory, then the loss that will definitely occur will not be accepted well. . Also, losing in gambling cannot be avoided unless it is a big loss, it can still be avoided if we have a clear mind so that we can accept defeat without worrying about it because we already know that it is something that will definitely happen in gambling.

If we can't accept the reality of losing or losing the money we bet on then it can trigger emotions and thoughts that become messy, the feeling of wanting to chase victory will become stronger, and when you are addicted it is very difficult to stop, because in my opinion to be able to stop addicted to the main perpetrators must first realize what their mistakes are and be fully aware that excessive gambling has caused them to lose a lot of money or even assets, and it is not easy to recover from this addiction, they must be able to restrain themselves from the strong temptation of gambling.

addiction is a disease, I took the liberty of removing some parts from wikipedia to make it easier to understand, because most of the time people have a lot of difficulties with how to proceed if they have a relative or friend or neighbor who is addicted to video games. bad luck. In many places, when people are faced with a person addicted to gambling, they rush to blame the spirits and perform rituals to please the spirits because they believe that this way they will be able to cure the person addicted to gambling and when that doesn't work, in other words, when the addicted person is not cured even with the ritual performed, then people run to churches that promise to perform miracles, the addicted person's relatives, even though they are relatives who are very well educated in terms of schooling, are people who have done faculty

Even so, in times of despair they become blind and really believe that that church will perform a miracle on their addicted relative. But after this section of miracles, the addicted relative doesn't cure anything, so the addict's relatives start going to the hospital as a last resort, they go to the hospital without much hope. if you look at:


source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction

With this we can clearly see that to cure addiction it is necessary to seek help from a doctor and start with treatment so that the person changes their behavior, it is possible to cure addiction, it is enough that the person is complying with all recommendations of the doctor. An addicted person develops a behavior in which they are excessively dependent on a certain thing, which can be alcohol, sex, gambling and drugs, and treatment with a doctor consists of making that person's brain stop feeling dependence on those things in excess, for example of a person addicted to gambling, they will always feel the need to play and as in the casino you don't play for free, the addicted person will play until they run out of all the money they have, but when that person starts with treatment in the hospital then the doctor could be able to make this person no longer dependent on gambling and live a different and happy life