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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

Probably, because he thinks he still has a chance to hit the jackpot and win all his money back and even more, with all his money back he could get all his positions again and even work on getting his family together. So at this point of his addiction, sadly he is trying to flee his problems by further engaging with them and running faster/accelerating towards a concrete wall.
The sad reality is, even if he for pure luck managed to pull off a financial return and hit the jackpot he is desperately seeking to fix his life, he would still misuse that money and continue to wager more, for the sake of greed and accumulating more, he may convince himself that is his lucky day. He would be back whenever he started in the previous day before the jackpot.

For cases like that one, I believe education and awareness of how gambling works is supposed to be more widespread, so should be the rehabilitation facilities for anyone who feels to have reached rock bottom.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Or even a spiritual attack?

Personally I don’t believe in spiritual things, instead I see it as another pretext to cover behind addiction which can be a dangerous problem if not treated soon. Unfortunately, the online gambling now became a very large industry and everyone has access to gambling very easily, one of the reasons for gamblers to quit is availability mixed with bad self control.
In any moment, anyone of us can also get affected by this addiction even knowing all about the risks behind it, especially in my experience when you have money and not knowing where to spend it.

Addiction of anything is almost the same, the urge of having that morning cup of coffee or that cigarette after a good meal to me are all the same as gambling addiction. The solution and first step of getting rid of this issue is confessing to someone close, family member or a friend. Some countries where they don’t have centres of rehabilitation are more affected and ,ore difficult to get over it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 25, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on March 25, 2024, 04:54:41 AM

Addictions is the worst state for any gambler and once you reach that point, the only thing that can get you out is the person 100% involvement and determination to get off the addictions.

You are right. But the person needs to know that he has to stop gamble for months or years until he is satisfied that he is no longer addicted. If the person love gambling, he can have a gambling budget like we always say on this gambling discussion board and it should be small amount of money. But it will be good if the person just stop gambling.

The ability to have that total withdrawal from gambling is what many addicts lack, I know remember how you have always mentioned about your previous gambling addictions problem and how you where able to overco that addictions now and can gamble within your set budgets and doing well at that, so if the victim can apply same approach he may still make it our of his current state unharmed but at this stage he is really in a mess that need urgent intervention.

Gambling is risky and even most of us who are not addicted still experiences some bad outcomes if we go over our budget and taking gambling for what it is not, we need to always put in check whatever our gambling activities are to keep balance because addictions is indeed a bad virus to any gambler.

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It's possible that this person already lost his mind, we are humans and if something unexpectedly happen it's possible to enter a state of shock and it's also possible to lose your mind.

Someone turned into a crazy woman when she lost her only child to an accident just across the street, opposite their home, she was looking after her child, and in a few seconds, the child ran toward the road.

This affected her so much that she was taken to an asylum later, but she never got herself back, it's possible that this gambler that OP is talking about was in shock after losing everything to gambling and he already confused himself to get everything back from gambling.

This case might be those of chasing losses addiction, someone who have no clue about gambling can use all they have on gamble especially if they have won before, but they never think about how they will feel if they lose everything until it happens.

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 25, 2024, 04:54:41 AM

At first I fine this story very hard to believe may be because of the way the ops posted it because I don't believe someone in that harm state will have the ability to decide for himself wether or not to gamble

That is addiction for you. Also that the person can be addicted to other things like drugs.

Quote from: Wiwo on March 25, 2024, 04:54:41 AM

Addictions is the worst state for any gambler and once you reach that point, the only thing that can get you out is the person 100% involvement and determination to get off the addictions.

You are right. But the person needs to know that he has to stop gamble for months or years until he is satisfied that he is no longer addicted. If the person love gambling, he can have a gambling budget like we always say on this gambling discussion board and it should be small amount of money. But it will be good if the person just stop gambling.

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At first I fine this story very hard to believe may be because of the way the ops posted it because I don't believe someone in that harm state will have the ability to decide for himself wether or not to gamble, I agree with that level of violent gambling addictions but at this stage he should be on chain on in rehabilitation house since obviously he is now uncontrollable.

Addictions is the worst state for any gambler and once you reach that point, the only thing that can get you out is the person 100% involvement and determination to get off the addictions.

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Quote from: _act_ on March 25, 2024, 04:33:40 AM

Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on March 25, 2024, 04:21:51 AM

With the level of addiction you've described OP, I think that person needs to be taken to a rehab, it's obvious he has lost his mind, gambling can be one of the addictions he is going through, but i believe there are other things too he can be addicted to that your not aware of. Gambling can be addictive no doubt, but not to the extent of costing him his business, home and family, that's far too much.
At that stage, he cannot stay on his own and stop gambling, he obviously needs help from friends and well washers, because in his state of mind, he hasn't done anything wrong with his gambling lifestyle.

What I can call it is frustration of losing is affecting his mental health already, but addiction is hard to quit. You are right by saying he needs help. Rehabilitation center will greatly help him. He needs his family and friends support they should advise and take him to rehabilitation center if they have the money. I hope this can teach many people on this forum lessons that gambling addiction is not good at all. It is wrong to be thinking that money can be made through gambling.

I agree with you mate, Seems like that person is suffering in severe gambling addiction and possibly accompanied by other mental health issues due to lack of financial, mental and family support. We don't know what the real reason is, but based on OP's description, it seems that consultation or advice from other people is not enough to change the person, In such cases, rehabilitation and drug medication are necessary because no matter what advice we give in a person, if he continues to return to the thing that destroyed him, he will only drown more and more in gambling addiction. Only rehab can really help a person to change and of course his dedication and desire to change, the treatment will be faster if he helps himself.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

This is actually just one story of an addictive gambler, because their are so many and even countless addictive gamblers out their that are even in a worse situation in one way or the other, I have even heard of a story of how a man kidnapped his ageing father through a hired tugs, and demand for a ransom from his elder brother which is a wealthy man, so that he can keep up to his gambling habits, which he can no longer afford, but he was later exposed and arrested after an investigation was carried out after everything, he and the other perpetrators were brought to Justice, arrested and punished according to the law, so why am I saying this? Am saying this because you need to understand that addictive gamblers are ready to go extra miles, to keep up to their gambling habits, even when it's destroying their lives, because to them, they can't live without it.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

He may still be normal and not derailed. If you have lost so much to gambling, it could have such kind of negative effect on the person because they keep struggling to win back their money at the expense of not having time for any other thing

Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

If you are a loner and you don't allow anyone to know or understand what you are doing then no one will know you need help. So it is worse of you don't have a wife or a close companion, you will be at your own mercy.

So it is not anything close to spiritual attack but the mind which have stationed him away from the need to disclose to any person. People die in silence from this especially if they are huge gambler, they lose much faster than they can control it. An addict is worse off if they don't have spouse or children because at some point he needs to eat, rest and feel the bossom of his family but if that is missing, he will always be on the straight looking haggard.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on March 25, 2024, 04:21:51 AM

With the level of addiction you've described OP, I think that person needs to be taken to a rehab, it's obvious he has lost his mind, gambling can be one of the addictions he is going through, but i believe there are other things too he can be addicted to that your not aware of. Gambling can be addictive no doubt, but not to the extent of costing him his business, home and family, that's far too much.
At that stage, he cannot stay on his own and stop gambling, he obviously needs help from friends and well washers, because in his state of mind, he hasn't done anything wrong with his gambling lifestyle.

What are the none monetary ways to help a gambling addict. We can agree the fees for rehab may be too exorbitant for the addict to afford. Anyone who is addicted and seeks for him will get. There are environmental factors that could influence the gambling addict to keep gambling or to quit. Changing locations can help weaken the triggers that causes the addiction to persist. Changing friends, and reading new books can help too.

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I feel for him. This is because he knows that gambling has made him lose everything but he still would not give up, because he still believes that he can hit the jackpot with the next game. False hope is what many gamblers have, and gradually gambling keeps destroying them.

The person needs to be in rehab home, where he will be deprived from gambling for a very long time. I guess that will help him, but he needs his family to succeed in this. I haven't seen such gambler in my entire life. Is it that the losses was what made him mentally sick or something else.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on March 25, 2024, 04:21:51 AM

With the level of addiction you've described OP, I think that person needs to be taken to a rehab, it's obvious he has lost his mind, gambling can be one of the addictions he is going through, but i believe there are other things too he can be addicted to that your not aware of. Gambling can be addictive no doubt, but not to the extent of costing him his business, home and family, that's far too much.
At that stage, he cannot stay on his own and stop gambling, he obviously needs help from friends and well washers, because in his state of mind, he hasn't done anything wrong with his gambling lifestyle.

What I can call it is frustration of losing is affecting his mental health already, but addiction is hard to quit. You are right by saying he needs help. Rehabilitation center will greatly help him. He needs his family and friends support they should advise and take him to rehabilitation center if they have the money. I hope this can teach many people on this forum lessons that gambling addiction is not good at all. It is wrong to be thinking that money can be made through gambling.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

With the level of addiction you've described OP, I think that person needs to be taken to a rehab, it's obvious he has lost his mind, gambling can be one of the addictions he is going through, but i believe there are other things too he can be addicted to that your not aware of. Gambling can be addictive no doubt, but not to the extent of costing him his business, home and family, that's far too much.
At that stage, he cannot stay on his own and stop gambling, he obviously needs help from friends and well washers, because in his state of mind, he hasn't done anything wrong with his gambling lifestyle.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

Gambling addicted person will want to stop the addiction if he knows already that he is likely to lose more than win and that profit is not promising in gambling. It would be like a mad person that knows that he is mad which means he is cure ify the madness already. Or maybe people are different but that was how I quit gambling addiction. I quit gambling the day I realized that I will always lose more from my irresponsible gambling. The person has not accepted that, he thinks a day is coming that he is going to be lucky, but that day may never come.

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Quote from: Z390 on March 25, 2024, 04:02:28 AM

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

what is keeping him imprisoned(addicted) could be a lack of social support.

Family- mother, father, brother, sister
Religious support - Priest, Iman, Rabbi
Communal support - Gambling Anonymous groups

People who are addicted and are finding difficult to break free more than ever need love and compassion. They need to know that they have not been abandoned by their family. They need to know that they are loved and their family need to help them overcome it. Strength comes from the mind and it come from the loving and encouraging words from family.

There is no metaphysical forces at play in any addiction. With the necessary support any one can break free from it.

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Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

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