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Going to need more than that, heard Dean is on board too?
Topic: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All - page 26. (Read 25272 times)
Going to need more than that, heard Dean is on board too?
Looks like Rhaver is on board!
Stunna I want to ask you something.
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
This was discussed many many times in the past with various sites.
Basically its technically possible some gambling site can cheat you ONLY if you NEVER change your bet habit and NEVER change your client seed.
The site can have some pregenerated keys and if they detect you are someone who only martingales AND never changes the win direction, then they can give you some bad keys that will generate 10-20 losses in a row to clean you out.
However I am pretty sure Primedice never does this. And its also risky for the casino because what if you change from being a predictable gambler to a non-predictable gambler.
Someone can basically, martingale with 100 Sats bets for like 10000 Rolls, and then all of a sudden they can switch their bet habits and trick the site.
Well said, this is why I generally only trust dice sites. But initiatives like onehash & www.stake.com are making other types of gambling possible to easily verify.
Stunna I want to ask you something.
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
This was discussed many many times in the past with various sites.
Basically its technically possible some gambling site can cheat you ONLY if you NEVER change your bet habit and NEVER change your client seed.
The site can have some pregenerated keys and if they detect you are someone who only martingales AND never changes the win direction, then they can give you some bad keys that will generate 10-20 losses in a row to clean you out.
However I am pretty sure Primedice never does this. And its also risky for the casino because what if you change from being a predictable gambler to a non-predictable gambler.
Someone can basically, martingale with 100 Sats bets for like 10000 Rolls, and then all of a sudden they can switch their bet habits and trick the site.
The server seed doesn't change on every bet. This leaves the outcome determined by the client seed only. All bets can be verified when the hashed server seed is revealed.
I know one site where server seed is changing together with nonce.
I would like to see Stunna's answer on this, maybe he missed question, i'll send him message.
Stunna I want to ask you something.
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
I want to add a question onto this. Who can validate the claims that these systems are implementing these systems correctly? Let's take the Lottery system for Freebitco.in as a example. The site claims that their system is Provably Fair, but most people do not have the technical know how to validate these claims.
A faucet/gambling site like Freebitco.in is very popular amongst the poorest people in the world and should be 100% legit.
Can you please add your answer to this question, with spngebob's answer?
What are going to be some new initiatives of the foundation. It's cool to see Aengus announcing you'll be tidying up whether sites are actually fair or not.
Stunna I want to ask you something.
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
The server seed doesn't change on every bet. This leaves the outcome determined by the client seed only. All bets can be verified when the hashed server seed is revealed.
Stunna I want to ask you something.
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
Real provably fair system is - client seed + server seed + nonce.
Client seed and server seed should remain the same while nonce change from 1 to n.
If you don't change client seed, nonce is changing from 1 - n and server seed is changing on every bet is that really provably fair system?
House could simple catch client seed, calculate nonce and give you bad outcomes.
And what is the point of nonce if server seed change on every bet?
My second(third?) question - without nonce, if client seed is unchanged, and server seed is changing on every bet, casino could see clients seed and give to player bad seeds.
How one can prove house didn't cheat?
Is that possible?(4th question)
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Code of conduct
- Proper provably fair (Nonce, server seed, client seed - No provably fair whereby
- Flawless reputation (No complaints of unfair missing user funds due to T&C etc.)
- Proof of solvency if an investment website
This could change. The major factor is simply providing a fully fair gaming experience whereby users can have peace of mind.
- Proper provably fair (Nonce, server seed, client seed - No provably fair whereby
- Flawless reputation (No complaints of unfair missing user funds due to T&C etc.)
- Proof of solvency if an investment website
This could change. The major factor is simply providing a fully fair gaming experience whereby users can have peace of mind.
Hoping to get some more people on board. Current people signed up: Bustabit.com, bustadice.com, Stake.com & Primedice.com
We (mbet.io) would be happy to participate if you are looking at working with sportsbooks. Is there anywhere I can get a look at the code of conduct, I looked but cant seem to find it.
Will consider putting together a proper code of conduct but prefer to keep things simple for this moment.
- Provide a fair experience [Provably fair, fair treatment of players]
- Maintain a flawless reputation
I've made a topic on the forum regarding suggesting more: https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/15-suggest-cgf-principles/
Could we know, what's kind forums will be present?
https://forum.cryptogambling.org/
It's my hope that we collectively can push each-other to do better, mediate major complaints and encourage the rest of the industry to improve practices.
Could we know, what's kind forums will be present?
Hoping to get some more people on board. Current people signed up: Bustabit.com, bustadice.com, Stake.com & Primedice.com
We (mbet.io) would be happy to participate if you are looking at working with sportsbooks. Is there anywhere I can get a look at the code of conduct, I looked but cant seem to find it.
Stunna when are you inviting other sites? i've noticed the logo on the bottom of your sites
Will start slowly sending out invites. If you'd like to join PM Aengus: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aengus-1099499
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
hi
I PMed Aengus on 7th of oct to help me to register to the forum and to get more info but did not get an answer yet.
shall I try to register again? I did not try it yet becuase I am afraid it might ask for a new mail addy and nickname
thx
Your registration was manually approved, have you tried logging in with whatever details you set?
I could sign in thx a lot
Will start slowly sending out invites. If you'd like to join PM Aengus: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aengus-1099499
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
hi
I PMed Aengus on 7th of oct to help me to register to the forum and to get more info but did not get an answer yet.
shall I try to register again? I did not try it yet becuase I am afraid it might ask for a new mail addy and nickname
thx
Your registration was manually approved, have you tried logging in with whatever details you set?
Will start slowly sending out invites. If you'd like to join PM Aengus: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aengus-1099499
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard.
hi
I PMed Aengus on 7th of oct to help me to register to the forum and to get more info but did not get an answer yet.
shall I try to register again? I did not try it yet becuase I am afraid it might ask for a new mail addy and nickname
thx
Will start slowly sending out invites. If you'd like to join PM Aengus: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aengus-1099499
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard. Currently, Bustabit, PD, Stake are members.
At this stage we're trying to spotlight websites that are provably fair and honest actors in the scene & give those sites a platform where their voice can be heard. Currently, Bustabit, PD, Stake are members.
Great idea!
Hope to see more verified members soon
Hope to see more verified members soon
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