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Topic: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All - page 21. (Read 25272 times)

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
sorry but I dont get it. why is no one answering? is the idea dead? or only for special user?

my posting was

as I am not sure where to post I will post it also here

I need help with provably fair for one of my games

please check here
https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/71-who-will-help-me-to-add-provably-fair-to-one-of-my-games/

thx
Do they not assist you with adding provably fair to your games?

thank you for the question. until now they did not answer here or PMs if they want to help me or not. even a "No"would be an answer.

@luxo42 offered his help. thx for this offer

actually I was sure they will help me but very disappointed that they did not answer and offering help

hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
sorry but I dont get it. why is no one answering? is the idea dead? or only for special user?

my posting was

as I am not sure where to post I will post it also here

I need help with provably fair for one of my games

please check here
https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/71-who-will-help-me-to-add-provably-fair-to-one-of-my-games/

thx
Do they not assist you with adding provably fair to your games?
member
Activity: 126
Merit: 22
I may help. PM me.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
sorry but I dont get it. why is no one answering? is the idea dead? or only for special user?

my posting was

as I am not sure where to post I will post it also here

I need help with provably fair for one of my games

please check here
https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/71-who-will-help-me-to-add-provably-fair-to-one-of-my-games/

thx
full member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 100
Hello,

I want introduce my gamble site.
It's odd/even game with provably fair 100% and house edge 1%.
http://oddevenbets.com

Could I join?

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Hello,
I have sent you an email, but have not received any reply.
I would very much like to join you, how can this be done? Huh

My site is rolleth.io
Roullet on Ethereum 100% fair & instant 

Hey,

Sorry for the lack of reply. Due to high demand mainly from all the ICO's we're only considering well known sites that have operated for over 1 year.
jr. member
Activity: 214
Merit: 1
Hello,
I have sent you an email, but have not received any reply.
I would very much like to join you, how can this be done? Huh

My site is rolleth.io
Roullet on Ethereum 100% fair & instant 
member
Activity: 302
Merit: 15
Since there's not much activity on the foundation's forums we just left a message through email and hoping to join the foundation.
We are fully transparent and would like to answer anything that is needed and collab. We are all here for legal and decent gambling culture.

The first blockchain platform to power sports bets via Ethereum smart contracts.
No book, no accounts, no odds. Just P2P bets between fans of sports and crypto.
https://cryptosportz.com/
jr. member
Activity: 63
Merit: 2
@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?

Provably fair only means that the user can prove that the game was fair. There could be / are other ways to do this other than the standard client & server seed model (some only work for specific types of games, i.e. lottos). However, what you mentioned is the most common and regarded as better than most because it is much easier to verify.

Can this be done on poker sites, or are some poker sites doing something like it today?  I swear there are times when I def think online poker is rigged.  Yeah yeah, I read everything about how it's not and all that.  But are they provably fair?

...  Yup exactly.  Grin


Provably fair on pvp poker is pretty hard to pull off and as far as i know there are  no poker sites that do that yet.

We are trying to figure it out 😀.

It has to be done in a way so server doesn't know which carda are delth to players nor the face card. And so the players can verify they got the right cards.

So casino would not be able to have insider players which know the cards or to deal good hands for bigger rake.

Kinda hard to do correctly.

Virtue Poker looks like it would be the first to do this: https://virtue.poker/ im normally quite disdainful of the gambling blockchains, as they are generally all full of crap scams but these guys have a fantastic team and good blockchain, cryptographic and poker knowledge. Its a pity that poker is not so popular these days compared to last 20 years.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?

Provably fair only means that the user can prove that the game was fair. There could be / are other ways to do this other than the standard client & server seed model (some only work for specific types of games, i.e. lottos). However, what you mentioned is the most common and regarded as better than most because it is much easier to verify.

Can this be done on poker sites, or are some poker sites doing something like it today?  I swear there are times when I def think online poker is rigged.  Yeah yeah, I read everything about how it's not and all that.  But are they provably fair?

...  Yup exactly.  Grin


Provably fair on pvp poker is pretty hard to pull off and as far as i know there are  no poker sites that do that yet.

We are trying to figure it out 😀.

It has to be done in a way so server doesn't know which carda are delth to players nor the face card. And so the players can verify they got the right cards.

So casino would not be able to have insider players which know the cards or to deal good hands for bigger rake.

Kinda hard to do correctly.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?

Provably fair only means that the user can prove that the game was fair. There could be / are other ways to do this other than the standard client & server seed model (some only work for specific types of games, i.e. lottos). However, what you mentioned is the most common and regarded as better than most because it is much easier to verify.
Oh, I was thinking about something else. I forget to write it down  Embarrassed

If I use my own client seed and I don't change it for 100K bets, how can I know that casino didn't give me bad(losing) seeds? I know nonce will solve this issue, but there are only few sites which are using that kind of system(primedice, bitsler, stake) and other sites are using only client seed + server seed.
For example, fortunejack and bitvest are using client seed + server seed, and cryptogames use client seed + server seed, but there is option to manually change client seed and nonce but server seed is changing together with nonce and I don't think it should, and there is message " I understand the risks, I want to manually change my client seed". Why is it risky to manually change client seed?  Undecided

Is it possible to somehow "inject" bad seeds if gambling site doesn't use nonce?
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?

Provably fair only means that the user can prove that the game was fair. There could be / are other ways to do this other than the standard client & server seed model (some only work for specific types of games, i.e. lottos). However, what you mentioned is the most common and regarded as better than most because it is much easier to verify.

Can this be done on poker sites, or are some poker sites doing something like it today?  I swear there are times when I def think online poker is rigged.  Yeah yeah, I read everything about how it's not and all that.  But are they provably fair?

...  Yup exactly.  Grin
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
Are you also able to show the proof to not be qualified to provide any legal advice?

How can someone clueless like you assess legal things?

Can you please enlighten us and add content to your claims?

In my experience, any effort trying to engage Game-Protect in a rational conversation is futile.

He has proven himself to not be qualified to provide any legal advice to anyone (even a casual suggestion from him should be ignored)

Unfortunately he has continued to spam deceptive hyperlinks to his shit website all over the place in hopes that someone will click the link and provide him some affiliate revenue.

I recommend everyone ignore him in any thread other than his own and report any post he makes that contains deceptive hyperlinks (see example below)



Surely he will respond to this with a bunch of stupid questions.  Just ignore.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 658
rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?

Provably fair only means that the user can prove that the game was fair. There could be / are other ways to do this other than the standard client & server seed model (some only work for specific types of games, i.e. lottos). However, what you mentioned is the most common and regarded as better than most because it is much easier to verify.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
Brainwashing transmission from Russia failed.
Recalibrating equipment.
Merit for making me laugh  Grin

~blah~
I bet 1000$ that I have already replied to this.

@Stunna I am curious about something.
Provably fair, at least in my mind means - gambling session with unchanged client seed + unchanged server seed while only nonce changes.
Is this correct?
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036


Brainwashing transmission from Russia failed.
Recalibrating equipment.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
Read topic again. It is not about gambling license and it is not made so you can spam links to your site to increase visibility on search engines, it is about fairness  Roll Eyes
According to your brain wash theories, online gaming consumer protection service to help players getting informed about scams and assist victims to enforce their rights if scammed is not fair?

Because shady operators like Fortunejack do not consider it as fair that such a service exists and could become expensive for them if held accountable?

And what has paying for a fake license to do with fair gambling for all?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
Would you please stop ranting and spamming links to your ridiculous service all around forum?
Please quote the spamming part?

Definition spamming: "Send the same message indiscriminately to a large number of Internet users."

Wiki says different.

Forum spamming:

Most forum spam consists of links to external sites with the dual goals of increasing search engine visibility in highly competitive advertising domains such as weight loss, pharmaceuticals, gambling, pornography, real estate or loans, and generating more traffic for these commercial websites.
Spam posts may contain anything from a single link to dozens of links.
text content is minimal, usually innocuous and unrelated to the forum's topic


Does this ring a bell?

Read topic again. It is not about gambling license and it is not made so you can spam links to your site to increase visibility on search engines, it is about fairness  Roll Eyes


If I understood correctly, you as a Fortunejack licensing scam spammer claim it is fair to finance organized crime that killed the politician leader Helmin Wiels?

If I understood correctly, you as someone who is publicly proven troll claims that provably fairness is organized crime?  Roll Eyes

Don't twist my words and stop taking words out of context monkey.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
Would you please stop ranting and spamming links to your ridiculous service all around forum?
Please quote the spamming part?

Definition spamming: "Send the same message indiscriminately to a large number of Internet users."

Wiki says different.

Forum spamming:

Most forum spam consists of links to external sites with the dual goals of increasing search engine visibility in highly competitive advertising domains such as weight loss, pharmaceuticals, gambling, pornography, real estate or loans, and generating more traffic for these commercial websites.
Spam posts may contain anything from a single link to dozens of links.
text content is minimal, usually innocuous and unrelated to the forum's topic


Does this ring a bell?

Read topic again. It is not about gambling license and it is not made so you can spam links to your site to increase visibility on search engines, it is about fairness  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
You have stats of how much Bitcoin you have illegally taken? 5 Years is exactly the time frame players can demand their losses back.
You sound like 5 year old kid.
Why?


Would you please stop ranting and spamming links to your ridiculous service all around forum?
Please quote the spamming part?

Definition spamming: "Send the same message indiscriminately to a large number of Internet users."
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