⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All - page 28.

LuanX3

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Quote from: Stunna on September 17, 2017, 07:39:51 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on September 17, 2017, 06:19:26 AM

I tried to register but did not receive the confirmation mail. tried to resend the confirmation mail a few times without success.

who will take care of this problem?
thx

Looking into this now. Was working previously.

Quote from: LuanX3 on September 15, 2017, 02:19:53 AM

It is nice that there is an initiative for making everything fair and standardized. Few questions though, I'd like to discuss this in-depth.

1. I would like to know if you plan this to be something like the ICANN of cryptocurrency gambling?
2. How will this foundation enforce their laws onto gambling sites?
3. Who will govern the foundation?
a. If there would be a governing body, who will vote?
b. If there would be election, who are eligible to vote?

I'll think of more questions and you'll surely hear more from me here on this thread.

Realistically we can only enforce rules onto gambling sites that join up with the foundation, much like a gaming license provider would enforce rules onto their license holders. Since that isn't the case this is all the more necessary. As far as voting on matters we'd probably work something out so all websites get a vote and individuals are able to vote with a weight that makes sense relative to the two.

Also, I would like to stress that this isn't just about provably fair, that is just one piece of it. Realistically, abusive terms and conditions are an equally big issue in this space at the moment. Further, I don't think this is something that will work until we manage to decentralize in some meaningful way.

I see. So this would be indeed akin to some sort of treaty between countries where the only way you can enforce it is to have sites sign up. I guess it would be nice if all the gambling sites, old and new, would register here. But similar again to treaties, there are no way we can force anybody to sign up.

The initiative will really impact the crypto gambling industry for sure, it would just really take a lot of effort to make people join the association.

JackpotRacer

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Quote from: Stunna on September 17, 2017, 07:39:51 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on September 17, 2017, 06:19:26 AM

I tried to register but did not receive the confirmation mail. tried to resend the confirmation mail a few times without success.

who will take care of this problem?
thx

Looking into this now. Was working previously.

will you let me please know when you solved the problem and what I need to do to finish registration?

thx

Stunna

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Primedice.com, Stake.com

Will be reaching out to some operators soon about joining up. If you have a website with good fairness and a good reputation and are interested let me know.

Aengus

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Edward Miroslav

The only slight self promotion that will be supported is that of all BTC/Crypto sites. They will in turn end up profiting money as more flows into our industry. Non provably fair sites will definitely take a hit as traction is built and vice versa.

This is an awesome technology which has been neglected for far too long honestly.

Stunna

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Primedice.com, Stake.com

Quote from: JackpotRacer on September 17, 2017, 06:19:26 AM

I tried to register but did not receive the confirmation mail. tried to resend the confirmation mail a few times without success.

who will take care of this problem?
thx

Looking into this now. Was working previously.

Quote from: LuanX3 on September 15, 2017, 02:19:53 AM

It is nice that there is an initiative for making everything fair and standardized. Few questions though, I'd like to discuss this in-depth.

1. I would like to know if you plan this to be something like the ICANN of cryptocurrency gambling?
2. How will this foundation enforce their laws onto gambling sites?
3. Who will govern the foundation?
a. If there would be a governing body, who will vote?
b. If there would be election, who are eligible to vote?

I'll think of more questions and you'll surely hear more from me here on this thread.

Realistically we can only enforce rules onto gambling sites that join up with the foundation, much like a gaming license provider would enforce rules onto their license holders. Since that isn't the case this is all the more necessary. As far as voting on matters we'd probably work something out so all websites get a vote and individuals are able to vote with a weight that makes sense relative to the two.

Also, I would like to stress that this isn't just about provably fair, that is just one piece of it. Realistically, abusive terms and conditions are an equally big issue in this space at the moment. Further, I don't think this is something that will work until we manage to decentralize in some meaningful way.

JackpotRacer

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I tried to register but did not receive the confirmation mail. tried to resend the confirmation mail a few times without success.

who will take care of this problem?
thx

MICRO

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Finally!

This is going to be an awesome place for all crypto gambling.

Im am so happy to be part of it. And i will dedicate a lot of my time to help this grow.

JackpotRacer

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Quote from: RustyNoman on September 16, 2017, 03:29:13 AM

Quote from: ThugStream on September 16, 2017, 03:01:31 AM

Quote from: RustyNoman on September 15, 2017, 03:23:36 AM

it's a nice idea, but hope this will not become a place for advertising stake and primedice, since it's in the hand of the owners of casinos, which i'm afraid this website will become when reading content on the website

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Reputation is something that is heavily scrutinised over in the online gaming industry. We want to promote those who are dedicated to not only building a strong reputation, but also developing strategies to maintain and potentially improve on current practices.

i'm not convinced that casino owners are making guidelines how casinos should making provably fair games.

this is more a job for a third party developers/specialists and not for casino owners.

Well doesn't matter if its for advertising or promoting stuff. Provably Fair awarness is the important part besides promoting .

Casino Owners are the one with the good knowledge in giving guidelines cause this stuff is all the first came from them isn't it ?

Goodluck
ThugStream

Ofc it matters. Don't get me wrong, the idea is good, but the site running by a casino owner is not. This will not be an independent website and they can (and probably will) glorify their casinos to make them look better than others, under the pretext they're doing something for common good.

They will advertise their casinos one way or another. Smart move, I must admit.

Watch and see it happen Wink

there should be one best Provably fair option and all casinos should use it. dont know if such a Provably Fair option exists ( I am not an expert of PF)

RustyNoman

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Quote from: ThugStream on September 16, 2017, 03:01:31 AM

Quote from: RustyNoman on September 15, 2017, 03:23:36 AM

it's a nice idea, but hope this will not become a place for advertising stake and primedice, since it's in the hand of the owners of casinos, which i'm afraid this website will become when reading content on the website

Quote

Reputation is something that is heavily scrutinised over in the online gaming industry. We want to promote those who are dedicated to not only building a strong reputation, but also developing strategies to maintain and potentially improve on current practices.

i'm not convinced that casino owners are making guidelines how casinos should making provably fair games.

this is more a job for a third party developers/specialists and not for casino owners.

Well doesn't matter if its for advertising or promoting stuff. Provably Fair awarness is the important part besides promoting .

Casino Owners are the one with the good knowledge in giving guidelines cause this stuff is all the first came from them isn't it ?

Goodluck
ThugStream

Ofc it matters. Don't get me wrong, the idea is good, but the site running by a casino owner is not. This will not be an independent website and they can (and probably will) glorify their casinos to make them look better than others, under the pretext they're doing something for common good.

They will advertise their casinos one way or another. Smart move, I must admit.

Watch and see it happen Wink

JackpotRacer

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was waiting for this for a long time just hoping that it will be done as it should be.

we dont want to be cheated and we dont want to cheat that is the reason we welcome this idea

we also would like to see a Provably fair option for Investors Investments

good luck

ThugStream

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Quote from: RustyNoman on September 15, 2017, 03:23:36 AM

it's a nice idea, but hope this will not become a place for advertising stake and primedice, since it's in the hand of the owners of casinos, which i'm afraid this website will become when reading content on the website

Quote

Reputation is something that is heavily scrutinised over in the online gaming industry. We want to promote those who are dedicated to not only building a strong reputation, but also developing strategies to maintain and potentially improve on current practices.

i'm not convinced that casino owners are making guidelines how casinos should making provably fair games.

this is more a job for a third party developers/specialists and not for casino owners.

Well doesn't matter if its for advertising or promoting stuff. Provably Fair awarness is the important part besides promoting .

Casino Owners are the one with the good knowledge in giving guidelines cause this stuff is all the first came from them isn't it ?

Goodluck
ThugStream

ThugStream

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Awesome Great stuff.Fair Gambling is the one what we need and we want to use.

Hopefully, eveyone will get clear by this provably fair and get more knowledge!!!!

You guys always implement some exciting and interesting stuff for players.Taking this to new level!!.

Goodluck
ThugStream

Aengus

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Loving all the support thus far!

Kerzyy

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I think there is a great need for there to be regulation regarding bitcoin casinos, mainly due to the ease of access. Very nice to see the owner of one endorsing this. Hopefully it can help provide other sites with the tools necessary to strengthen the trust between the player and the house.

Caladonian

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Great start coming from the owner of primedice it will bring impact to this system as you said that its only an small fractions of gamblers who believe with provable fair system with your help I think it will gain attention and people will start to look at this site and show interest.

Aengus

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Quote from: RustyNoman on September 15, 2017, 03:23:36 AM

it's a nice idea, but hope this will not become a place for advertising stake and primedice, since it's in the hand of the owners of casinos, which i'm afraid this website will become when reading content on the website

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Reputation is something that is heavily scrutinised over in the online gaming industry. We want to promote those who are dedicated to not only building a strong reputation, but also developing strategies to maintain and potentially improve on current practices.

i'm not convinced that casino owners are making guidelines how casinos should making provably fair games.

this is more a job for a third party developers/specialists and not for casino owners.

It's ran & maintained by people in the industry which will not stand for this. Stunna & Primedice helped with some small funding to create the website alongside posting the website. I believe the figureheads will be made public shortly.

eternalgloom

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Something weird is happening at my end, does anyone have the same issue?
I can access http://cryptogambling.org/ but not if I use the first link with www. before it like this http://www.cryptogambling.org/
Something might be wrong with the dns settings?

Great idea though and I agree that it's something that's really needed in the crypto gambling world.
Are you also offering some sort of quality control label that casinos can put on their website?

game-protect

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Quote from: Aengus on September 15, 2017, 01:02:39 AM

Happy to be founding member of the foundation - PM me if you wish to join as an individual, operator or website! Membership is free for anyone with the outlying guidelines followed correctly.

The Askgamblers of Bitcoin Gambling.

If players have an issue with shady operators, they should ask online gambling legal experts and not gamblers.

You can read here how askgamblers denied to take a case and referred to a non-existing licensing authority! Roll Eyes

If you want to introduce something ground breaking new that really can help players, I would not refer to ask gamblers.

Wendigo

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Well is The Crypto Gaming Foundation going to be decentralized in the sense that it's not owned and operated entirely by you?

game-protect

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Quote from: LuanX3 on September 15, 2017, 02:19:53 AM

It is nice that there is an initiative for making everything fair and standardized. Few questions though, I'd like to discuss this in-depth.

1. I would like to know if you plan this to be something like the ICANN of cryptocurrency gambling?
2. How will this foundation enforce their laws onto gambling sites?
3. Who will govern the foundation?
a. If there would be a governing body, who will vote?
b. If there would be election, who are eligible to vote?

I'll think of more questions and you'll surely hear more from me here on this thread.

The foundation can not enforce its laws onto gambling sites if they are not willing to accept it.

But they can publicise a list of sites who agree to fulfil the rules of the foundation and players can use it as a guide.

If the foundation is able to collect money, it could enforce the publicly stated and valid laws against the shady operators. Based on my experience, in most cases the problem is not that victims can not do anything, the problem is that most claimants are not willing to spend anything!

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