Topic: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development - page 23. (Read 173234 times)

Stolen ETH on the move again.

https://en.cryptonomist.ch/2020/05/06/funds-stolen-cryptopia-transferred-again/

Would be good if there was a bounty on recovered coins, bounty hunters get a good % of funds recovered.

I appreciate your kind words - I did have some help with the list from the ten pages of posts, so kudos to everyone who has helped gather the information together.

Thank you for the link. That thread has excellent work by yourself Timelord2067

There are links to the NZ Police and various media sites on this page: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptopia-online-articles-related-to-hack-theft-of-funds-2022-non-discussion-5097916

Were there ever any criminal investigations that actually led to arrests or to names of people that the police were trying to find?

I don't think binance would have stated they captured that huge amount of btc from the hackers/insiders if they did not intend on returning it.
It would be like them claiming they have just stolen all the cryptopia users funds.

Would be a PR nightmare that would be more damage to them than seeing the btc goes back to its owners.

Reconciliation tooks months to complete, this is stressfull task
My 0.6btc stuck on there, and there still hope we will get back our belongings.
In this very moment enjoy the halving at quarantine

The users and there coin balances are grouped into the same row in the database. What matching are you even talking about. The data is constructed of rows and columns. Each column represents a certain attribute like  USER NAME ..EMAIL ADDRESS..COIN BALANCE.. TIME YOU JOINED.  Each row has the actual values .

We're not living in the caveman ages. We have sql databases for a reason. We can use sql programming languages with them to perform computations quickly. This means constructing a simple sql command to add up how much the users own for each coin in the database, then comparing it with the coins wallets.

This command would be very simple and could be used over and over again for each coin.

We also don't have to manually email everyone. We are not Neanderthals. We have scripting languages that can perform complex tasks like emailing everyone in the database and giving them temporary usernames and password.

We also don't have to manually check the kyc. We have AI systems that use facial recognition software that can compare a pic with a sign you hold to a driver license pic and if they match you pass the kyc.

Nothing has to be done manually. Any computer can perform these tasks very quickly. Stop thinking we live in 1000 BC and we still light fires with stones and drag women around by there locks. This is a very simple operation and Grant Thornton is purposely stalling to try and steal the coins.

All the thieves pretend to be honest. Cryptopia has a bad reputation since ever and flags was rised since first accusation. People don't search for the rates before to join it and you can see how many accusation has been made against cryptopia here in btt forum.
Unfortunetly, this may or will happen with most of the centralised exchanges you know. This becomes a repetitive event that we hear about often.

clever people that protect cryptopia
where did the site go, where is the news?
they are thieves pretending to be honest...

Well of course its been said many times before. This is legal theft at a grand scale and they'll keep fucking us over till all the cash is gone. Who the fuck wouldn't?
They can literally have a meeting lasting an hour, watch porn, measure who has the longest wank stain and bill $5k and not a fucking thing can be done about it. Fuckers hit the jackpot with this one.

I guarantee my first born will be a liquidator.

Well if you really think about it..grand thorn in the ass can declare another hack to the funds just like cryptopia and then another portion of the funds ldown the drain LOL

Or maybe their kind of hack is keep paying themselves for the never ending work of their specialists counting your funds hehe

Even the court has a copy of the database and access to funds, it still need a lot of hard work to identify each user and match it to his balance. This may take months to years.
Case is not yet closed as you with other users don't yet get your coins back. Now with the actual pandemic crisis, process of fund recovery may take much long time than expected.

There should be a court appointed judicial officer that has a copy of the database and a count of how many coins are in each wallet.

This is to make sure Grant Thornton doesn't start tampering with the database or stealing coins out of the wallets. Right now were putting complete trust in a shady liquidator that hasn't done a damn thing in 12 months since they were appointed.

This is to make sure that Grant Thornton emails everyone in the database and if they don't then you should be able to complain to the court appointed judicial officer.

The NZ judge that decided in our favor should then set a strict time limit on how long Grant Thornton has to get the coins back to their rightful owners. Otherwise this will drag out for years and we still won't get back our coins.

The lawyer for the customers that won our case should continue to seek to get these things approved by the court so we can get some definitive time frame of when this thing will wrap up

We won the case, the coins are property, and individual trusts were established. There is zero chance we don't get out coins. Those idiots at Cryptopia and Grant Thornton cannot touch our coins, and if they do they will be put in jail like the scum they are.

Once again comes the topic of trust in Grant Thornton and once again I have to make a clarification: GT is NOT a huge multinational corporation. It is a federation of local consulting firms. So GT NZ is sort of a franchise.
Their website description plainly states:

And yeah, once again I have to point that GT NZ bosses involved in this liquidation are acquaintances of Cryptopia owners. I also need to point out GT NZ does not need to steal anything. They can legally take however much they please as consulting fees. As they already did up until now and surely they will continue to drag on, as fees mount.

Sing me a song next please, the first few lines of your post had so much garbage I couldn't even get to the end of it.

1) You inbred scum I've lost a few thousand dollars not $10. Nice try bending the truth and exaggerating to make it seem like I lost a minimal amount and therefor something I shouldn't pursue. Your tactics are so trivial and amateurish it's cringe worthy. Moron tactics. Exaggerate the facts so it makes it seem like the person has nothing worth pursuing.

2) You even admit you've used them to do auditing work for you so you have a connection with them and even like them. Nobody is that stupid to actually admit that unless they have an iq the size of a walnut.

Admitting you have previous work with them and are even friends with them? Your biased is disgusting. You might as well admit you share the same hookers and both come from the same family line of inbred family members. The bond is strong between you and Grant Thornton isn't it.

3) Doing a single audit for some low life trailer trash hillbilly is not the same as auditing a heist worth millions of dollars. The few dollars you made fucking dogs assholes for the private freak shows you hold doesn't equate to auditing a huge company worth a couple hundred million. You are one of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet.

4) Three feeble links I've posted? That's just the first links that came up on google. There are many more links you imbecile. Are you that stupid to think that those are the only links out there showing Grant Thornton's criminal behavior.

Furthermore ,you idiot, there are only a few grant Thornton employees handling the case so it is always rogue employees who do the theft not the whole company. Do you think when it comes to embezzlement it would involve the whole company. It would only ever be a couple employees directly involved in the case. Your logic is so bad and pathetic that I think you have mental retardation.

The facts are very clear. They haven't done a damn thing besides sell a few fucking chairs and computers and charge a million for it you moron!!!!!!!

Name one thing they've accomplished in the 15 months since the hack happened. Name one. You can't because they haven't done anything. They haven't secured the wallets. They haven't updated binaries or contacted any of the developers. They haven't compared the database with the wallets. What have they done besides sell some chairs and computers.

Now let me guess where you got your training from.

Sucking your cave mothers saggy pancake tits when you were young while she you gave you stories about your inbred ancestors. Those old saggy nipples that hang to her knees and allow you to suckle her from the floor without even having to get on her lap. You can lie on your back while she bends over slightly to engage those old flap jacks for her inbred offspring. I guess the saying goes mamma knows best.

The ancient practice your inbred family showed you out on the farm chasing goats and giving them the anal treatment you and your family have enjoyed for centuries?

Maybe you got your education from grade school where you were bullied and thrown into garbage cans upside down because of the pathetic sickly little weakling you are. Did that teach you to be an internet rambo and pretend to be knowledgeable.

You have the knowledge level of a chimpanzee. So come with facts to back up your pathetic weak assertions or else get the fuck out of here and stop posting your meaningless worthless nonsense.

I have facts to back up my claims. You have nothing but grade school taunts, which seems to be a thing with you inbred New Zealanders , because you sound like that other idiot cryptomaster with your low level illiterate command of the language and your grade school taunts trying to divert attention away from facts and get into mudslinging.

Firstly you should mentally be ready to write off 100% of what is stuck on Cryptopia. The fact that you get anything back should be considered lucky. Out of curiousity how much did you have stuck there? 10$?

Grant Thornton also has access to the books of some of the biggest companies in the world that are going through insolvency proceedings and various other stages of liquidation.  Does that mean they will steal all their money? The 3 feeble links you posted are individual employees going rogue. Where has GT been prosecuted? Are you that blinded by $10 worth of shitcoins? Maybe try out that bat against the back of your noggin a few times.

No, I don't work for Grant Thornton, though I have engaged them for some audit work in the past and was satisfied with their work.

I think it's quite clear for all to see who the kid is here.  When you say 'kid', I assume you are reffereing to a level a maturity typically found amongst your peer group.

Now let's get back to the issue of your education. Clearly you developed a semi-decent grasp of the English language but logic and reasoning was left out in your esteemed educational insitution.  Give me 3 guesses:
1. Home schooled in trailer park
2. Home schooled in a travelling circus
3. Self taught everything through Youtube videos


SUGGESTION:
Why don't you offer your technical expertise to go and help them? Since you seem to know what's required, please go to GT's Auckland office with your baseball bat and see what you can do on behalf of all of us. Would be happy to see you in cuffs the outcome.

In case they don't accept your tempting offer of assistance, I'll upgrade my initial suggestion of a light slap to the face to take a pair of pliers and stick them far up your ass.  Once they're lodged deep enough, try looking for your head and pull it out for a breath of fresh air.

Go home son, you dont belong here.  

I just thought I'd point out that the correct use of "their" you are grasping to use is as follows:


There are many other examples of how they're doing their jobs if you know where to look such as over there.

OK?

Let them do their jobs. That is one of the dumbest things said on here. They haven't done their jobs you idiot. That's the problem. They have secured the wallets. They haven't updated binaries. They haven't compared the database with whats in the wallets. The police haven't found out who committed the hack and haven't arrested anyone. You stupid low iq moron. That's the problem. They haven't done there fucking jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as Grant Thornton stealing funds they have a long history of criminal activity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-grantthornton-theft/ex-grant-thornton-partner-gets-four-and-a-half-years-for-4-million-theft-idUSBREA2B1QG20140312

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB107300032672672400

https://www.ft.com/content/b96aa256-f775-11e2-a618-00144feabdc0