Topic: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated - page 3. (Read 96854 times)

Oh c'mon puppet you disappoint me. Just do a Google Search for Sam Noi you'll find the Linkedin of a guy from Ghana.

The only "evidence" Ive seen of any africa link was based on a misunderstanding of blockchain.info, showing 0N, 0W (which works out to be in the ocean near Ghana) when there was no IP geolocation data. There is no other evidence whatsoever that Ive seen that suggests Alberto/sam is african and mountains of evidence proving he is italian.

Yeah, of course! Sam Noi is Alberto, everyone knows this. And he's Italian. Not just because of how he writes in English (using romance languages words) but also because he said so.

I look forward to seeing  a copy of his police report.

Why did he not go to the police months ago, when he stated he would?

Let's agree that "Sam Noi" alter ego is italian.

I just pointed it out because I can remember that some were saying something about an African with same name or something.

Alright he's Italian, probably, maybe.

What are you guys trying to find out? Sam Noi said in the IRC chat he's Italian.... that's not news!

Preliminar is also a latin word.

what a good idea it was to read back through Labcoins posts...

I don't know if italians use "Unknow" instead of unknown when speaking english... it would be interesting to find out of anyone has any italian friends who make that mistake.

Fabrizio would have to be complete idiot to believe anything Alberto said to him after all his other scams... those guys know each other well that much is incontrovertible.
as to why Fabrizio would willingly associate his name with another shady deal... well he was either blinded by greed or he was set up to take the fall....

logically if it was the later Fabrizio would have done everything in his power to save his ass including saving all IRC chats and reporting it to the authorities.

if he did that then all he needs to do is provide some of that material evidence to the Labcoin Shareholder lynch mob.
the only thing that can determine for certain what Fabrizio knew and when he knew it .. is a court of law..

+1

and thanks.

I was asked about how many Labcoin shares Fabrizio owned, and I replied about the Labcoin shares and not when he first heard the name Labcoin.

And as I said to my knowledge the first time Fabrizio heard that his company name was used to sell Labcoin shares and collect money form people was when the concerned shareholder contacted him. And he is ready to go to the police with this information. He is maybe lying to us but I doubt he will be able to lie to the police and get away with it.

I'm well aware that Fabrizio signed the document for the asic chip, that btw never was produced.

I really don't see the point of continuing this discussion here anymore, I have some information that I will not disclose here, and the whole point of mentioning Fabrizio And Alessia was that they are helping the investigation, and as a heads up about some new developments in the case. As I said Fabrizio trusted the wrong person with his and his company name. If he is part of the Labcoin fraud and has gained something he will pay for that, any if he just made some huge mistakes and got involved in this fraud because of that he is still going to pay, because his and his company name is already ruined.

I have contacted the lawyer and asked him about posting his information here on the forum, and also to have him confirm to me how much euros he will subtract from the invoice with the 3.5 BTC we have collected.

Now that we have the BTC amount for the first payment, the lawyers work on the complaint can officially begin.

HUGE thank you to all who has donated

Let's nail these bastard's for a better future for bitcoin, and to show all scammers that the bitcoin community will not put up with there shit anymore.

anyone see this?  - started way back, May 18th 2013

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-startup-about-to-launch-209553

and look at this:  (looks like Samuel Noi accidently spoke italian)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2362848

anyone remember this? - this began June 23rd, and is when I began reading about Labcoin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-labcoin-asic-v1-130nm300mhz-16-cores-chip-european-chinese-team-241033

this would be all evidence.

BTW. maybe we should first have lawyers name, company name, web URL, and phone numbers (office and mobile number).  If visualspade can ask the lawyer if it's ok with this information to be PMed to all share holders and see what he says. and also before paying him ask him what are our chances of justice.  And if there's great chance of getting justice, would he do a no WIN no pay arrangement.  If not, there are lawyers that will do this arrangement, just have to ask.  In Australia there are this sort of lawyer firms and it's worth a try.  Not for the money, but like some are thinking if we can trust this lawyer, is a great question.  I feel I can trust visualspade but the lawyer I wouldn't know.

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Off topic story... My father was totally cleaned out by a lawyer because lawyer knew from the beginning that there was no way my father could win and took my father a ride and for every thing he had.  Obviously my father didn't have a clue and trusted this lawyer.  Some lawyers are criminals themselves and they know how to cover their tracks.  This is an old story and happen about 30 years ago.  Also this happens frequently with divorce cases even today. 

Have you seen this screenshot?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3023491

Yuansuyi showed him the btct Labcoin page and what was his reply?
Tepepa 11:19:45
it is all true

Fabrizio might have been aware of the labcoin project name, that doesnt mean he was aware Alberto did a bitcoin IPO of the non existent company. The signing of those documents also predates the IPO by a significant margin AFAIK. I still maintain its quite likely fabr's involvement ended in June when he started working with Zopo. Until then it was no scam, they were just exploring the feasibility of such project.

That does not matter at all. He definitely knew Alberto was the man behind all these things. Whether 'Sam Noi' exists or not (he mentioned somewhere 'Sam Noi' was a hardware engineer) does not change the fact 'Sam Noi' was just a cover of Alberto.

Anyway I am really surprised at the following statement from virtualspade, and really doubt how much he really knows about this scam.


Even Fabrizio himself never denied he signed the contract for labcoin project and that was before the IPO of Labcoin. Moreover, when he was shown about the btct page on 28 Aug, he was not at all astonished but confirmed all the things written there are true.

One more funny thing was that some weeks later when things became more ugly he claimed that his name and his company has nothing to do with Labcoin and he will take legal action for those who used them without his consent. Of course, now we know what he have done: nothing. Apparently he was completely a clown and nothing he said can be trusted.

I will never trust a lawyer who choose to trust someone like Fabrizio.

Its possible Alberto told Fabrizio there is a "sam noi" running the show, but never told him it was a fictional character or an alias of himself.

Then how about this
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3564832

Does this count as the direct proof that Fabrizio knew Alberto is the one behind all this.

Highlight:
Tepepa 9:09:09
I must refer you to Mr. Alberto Armandi who is the only responsible for the labcoin project


With my previous post together, could we safely say Fabrizio knew Samuel Noi == Alberto Armandi in the beginning? Apparently he said in August 'Samuel Noi' was the leader of labcoin project.

All these are just in the threads read by all of us, but the inspectors or the lawyer they hired have never read them and still believe whatever Fabrizio said. I don't think I can trust them and donate.

This is not proven by the information you provided.  The circumstantial evidence (that we have) overwhelmingly points to the conclusion that Fabrizzio knew Alberto is Sam Noi, but we don't have direct proof yet.  The circumstantial evidence is so strong that hard evidence almost certainly exists, but we haven't found it yet.

Here's the proof that Fabrizio knew Labcoin project as early as 28 Aug.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3023491

No reason to doubt its creditability, since this is the first post mentioned Fabrizio signed a contract of orders of chips, which Fabriozio admitted himself later. If it was fake, how can the author knew this fact?

So if virtualspade still think Fabrizio was just a innocent victim, could you explain what Fabrizio said on August?

HighLight:

After shown the btct page, Fabrizio said:

Tepepa 11:19:45
it is all true
Tepepa 11:21:24
the project manager is Samuel Noi

Tepepa 11:31:10
itec is a company with many projects
Tepepa 11:31:15
labcoin is one of them


Before Fabrizio could give a reasonable explanation, please don't believe whatever he said about he was innocent and knew nothing. It is totally nonsense.

For those who wonder why Fabrizio never deny he signed a document for Labcoin project: he cannot deny since the document is still there and Howard Wang met him face to face for signing this document.

Then considering Fabrizio signed the document for labcoin project, admitted labcoin is one of his company's many projects, confirmed all things written in the btct page were true, knew Alberto was the guy behind it but said nothing to the investor back in August and said nothing to us before we found it out by outselves months later, do you still think this guy is innocent and really know nothing about Labcoin scam?

If  Fabrizio was aware of the "Sam Noi' Character back then, I would speculate that he would have known a lot more about the labcoin "project" at the time too.