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legendary
Activity: 1025
Merit: 1000
TheSwede is not helping?! What a rat.

I want to confirm that Alberto is the prime target here and the lawyer is not going to waste funds tracking down 'Sam Noi'. Then I'll donate.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
There was some discussion in LCSH about posting that information about Fabrizio and Alessia Tatti, and you guys have just now taken up the points that we discussed about, let me clear things up for you, since I wanted to post that.

Fabrizio and Alessia asked us if we could ask people to stop contacting them, first point they are communicating with us and are willing to help with the complaint, and give what ever information they have to the lawyer. That is something that Sam Noi, Alberto Armandi or Theswede75 are not doing. If Fabrizio and Alessia were part of the Labcoin scam I doubt they would say that, more likely they would give some excuse why they don't want to help or just stay quiet, like the other names involved in this fraud. Alberto Armandi did actually in one email threaten to report the one asking him about Laboin to the police for harassing him.

I have been reading for hours and hours posts made by all involved in the Labcoin scam, I have went through all post I could find written by these people, it has become very clear to me that Alessia's name has been used on different forums and on irc chats without her knowledge, Alessia don't speak or write english very well and all the post written about Labcoin in her name has been written by a person that knows english very well. Same goes for Fabrizio but his english is much better but not perfect.

I have also looked at the social profiles of them and they really don't look like people who is into the business of committing fraud, I realize that this is not real evidence, but when putting all the pieces together, I just don't see them as the people behind this fraud. And it doesn't matter what I think since they are willing to clear this up with the police, and according to them they are victims just like us. This all will be investigated by the police, and we will eventually find out the truth who is lying.

And looking into the history of Fabrizio and Alessia I cant find any proof that they are "professional scammers", Alessia was involved in the Enso pad, but I doubt very much she had anything to do with that personally, except maybe trying to clear up some of Albertos mistakes so that her name wouldn't get totally ruined, which it got anyway.

And Fabrizios company was not used without compensation, it was used without permission.

I'm just saying that all the evidence I have seen so far suggest that Fabrizio and Alessia are victims just like us, but the are also the first suspects, and the first people "involved" with Labcoin who actually wants to start the investigation into Labcoin and clear there names, unlike Sam Noi or theSwede75. So if you like to help, ask these people if they want to cooperate with our lawyer and go to the police.

And If some body who is part of these legal actions have a problem, or don't trust in how I am or the LCSH are handling the case, pleas PM me with your concerns and all the evidence you have that suggest we are doing something wrong. Our main concern is looking out for the best interest of all shareholders and not the people that are accused, so all useful information is welcome.

1.339 BTC donations received in less than 9h, thank you for your support. 








newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0

I can't support action that's not considering Fabrizio as a suspect.

If he's "talking with you", great. 

When does he return his share of the stolen bitcoins to us?

I don't believe for one second he allowed his company to be used without compensation.  What was that compensation?  What proof does he have that was all of it?



You wouldn't be. Please see Kleeck's response above.

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It has nothing to do with trusting them and everything to do with aggregating data.

LCSH, nor its affiliates, have released the Tattis of any alleged responsibility. LCSH legal counsel has requested the inclusion of the request to cease contact and/or harassment.

Thank you.
sr. member
Activity: 400
Merit: 250
the sun is shining, but the ice is still slippery
Whats this? I get caught up in the TF fiasco, loose touch with Labcoin only to learn it has been de-listed from cyptostocks. I did not receive an e-mail, When was this announced?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250

I can't support action that's not considering Fabrizio as a suspect.

If he's "talking with you", great. 

When does he return his share of the stolen bitcoins to us?

I don't believe for one second he allowed his company to be used without compensation.  What was that compensation?  What proof does he have that was all of it?

full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Aren't both Fabrizio and Alessia professional scammers already? Why trust anything from them? That makes no sense.
I trust less and less your "legal route".

They may both be scammers. LCSH aims to use every resource available. If the Tattis are willing to talk with our lawyers then why would we not take advantage of that? It has nothing to do with trusting them and everything to do with aggregating data.

What's the point of asking people not to harass them?  Would unharassed scammers be more likely to provide good info?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
https://karatcoin.co
Aren't both Fabrizio and Alessia professional scammers already? Why trust anything from them? That makes no sense.
I trust less and less your "legal route".

They may both be scammers. LCSH aims to use every resource available. If the Tattis are willing to talk with our lawyers then why would we not take advantage of that? It has nothing to do with trusting them and everything to do with aggregating data.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
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We would like announce that both Fabrizio and Alessia have agreed to provide information to our group and as a result we find it would be appropriate for all shareholders to cease communication with them, especially in the way of threats, lewd gestures, and other harassment. ...
[donations]

I would like to add that the rest of the Labcoin gang have also agreed to communicate with me, so please cease harassing them also.
If you have a chance to recover any of your funds, please abstain from doing so -- such actions may fundamentally undermine the litigation, which is already in progress.

  ~Your BFF who's not a part of Labcoin hell no.
   
   
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Friends, Labcoiners, Shareholders, lend me your ears!

LCSH has had great success in it's investigatory endeavors into the individuals responsible for the Labcoin operation. We would love to give complete detail into what has been uncovered but we walk a thin line of informing you, the victim, and tipping off the perpetrators. So, please, forgive any vagueness, it is not intended to keep you, the innocent in the dark, but the accused.

We would like announce that both Fabrizio and Alessia have agreed to provide information to our group and as a result we find it would be appropriate for all shareholders to cease communication with them, especially in the way of threats, lewd gestures, and other harassment.

Our work is entering the next phase, which involves funding. We have ample evidence now to move against the accused and are in touch with a lawyer who is eager to assist in compiling our data into a case and bringing forth justice. We know that many of you have lost a lot of financial resources, and we regret having to ask for one Satoshi more, but alas, this is what is needed for justice to be realized. The collected resources will be provided to the lawyer to build and file a formal legal complaint against the accused. This is the first step towards a legal hearing.

When we reach a balance of 3.5 BTC (of about 7 BTC total for complaint) in the legal fund address our lawyer can begin legal maneuvers that will set in motion the justice system against the accused.

virtualspade is handling the donations, more information here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3795590
sr. member
Activity: 245
Merit: 250
i will keep my eyes on here as a shareholder from IPO
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
1.21 GIGA WATTS
how come Labcoin Notifier on twitter has tweeted Labcoin has posted new messages today?

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Labcoin Notifier ‏@LabcoinNotifier 46m
Labcoin has posted a new message and is now at 163 posts!
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Labcoin Notifier ‏@LabcoinNotifier 13h
Labcoin has posted a new message and is now at 163 posts!
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
1.21 GIGA WATTS
isn't time to lodge complaints against CRYPTOSTOCKS and report this crazy behavior of letting people continue to buy Labcoin shares to plainly loose money no matter how small the amount maybe?

I will start but others have to do same.  really this shit has to stop.  This to me is greedy and criminal.
I sent them an email them yesterday saying, if not de-listed now I was going to report cryptostocks as scammers as well.
must of worked.  Cool
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
looks like LABCOIN trading at cryptostocks has been halted....
I guess the raping of our mining account was the last straw for them...
I hope they join is in tracking down these clowns.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
i actually saw i had an old order from before. switched it to sell @ 0.000004 and sold a bunch!?!? who's buying this dud? i almost feel a little bad for them.

don't feel sorry for guys like me... we are only buying "lottery tickets" with bitcoins we made/mined elsewhere...
sr. member
Activity: 766
Merit: 250
Anyone notice that the mining address just suddenly "cashed" out? Over $40,000 worth of BTC sent to various addresses..  on 11/28

https://blockchain.info/address/17psAW21J4twanAFWmbcd5WdX2pKeX3trm
legendary
Activity: 2955
Merit: 1050
...
 But kicking scammers is something that would be worth something.
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hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
1.21 GIGA WATTS
isn't time to lodge complaints against CRYPTOSTOCKS and report this crazy behavior of letting people continue to buy Labcoin shares to plainly loose money no matter how small the amount maybe?

I will start but others have to do same.  really this shit has to stop.  This to me is greedy and criminal.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I cant believe that since such a scam only can work if the majority of the money remains in the system. When all the big players would have ended with a win then the system couldnt have played out only on the backs of the small guys.

Sure it could.  The "big" names werent in with bitcoins anymore, they long cashed out, instead they set up pass through schemes to funnel fresh money to pirate in return for a cut.

Ah you mean them... might be that a couple of them realized what happens and withdrew the fee they got. Though its more big names than big returns. Since big returns on that side means even bigger returns on the scammers side otherwise the whole thing had to be stopped by the scammer in order to make money with it.
I dont know if there really were many that won with it. On the other hand... who would admit if he did? It would be very sure that the scammed ones would shred them to pieces...

TheSwede75 didnt make 1,000BTC profit? Where do you have this from? Thats plain stupid. In fact he made a big loss. So if you cant come with some evidences or hints you shouldnt propagate such things.

I just read a post by you where you can't put 2+2 together to see how funds got to jd wallet, and now this. Grin "in fact he made a big loss" . with the fake portfolio img he show? he jump on a flight, then back to trollbox, buy 250k ftc and 50k xpm with all dreamers investment $.. There really is no fixing stupid.

*sigh* Impressive again how some guys can suck stories out of their own fingers. Wheres the proof? Surely you would use these evidences at court right? Its very easy. You claim you know that the image is fake and he will go to jail right?
What do you mean with jd wallet?

TheSwede made big money off this, somebody found his wallet, and he was buying cars+luxury watches shortly after Labcoin went live.

He is the biggest reason why this scam succeeded. He is just as responsible for it.

Just look at all his stupid posts trying to convince people to stay in this company, even when we were discovering facts that it was a scam. You really take that psychopath's word he knew nothing what was going on? Even now, I still see him in the trollbox everyday pumping Feathercoin and other garbage alts.

He is responsible? He thought it was a legit company like any other involved that bought shares. He did his work which was PR, he received shares for it and invested from his own BTC in those shares too. So now you claim he is responsible? Is howard responsible too then because he developed an asic for labcoin?

There were all the time people that claimed to know it was scam and others that didnt see the sense in it. If thats really all you have to claim he is guilty of then im glad that you guys are no judges.

I guess thats human nature. One will not be guilty of being stupid. No... that cant be. Others must have been it. They convinced me. They had to know it was wrong. Im the poor victim.

Guys... that wont work.

Why are you defending him, exactly? I'm tired of all the clicks in here, stop defending your buddy and let him speak for himself.

This scam would have not gotten anywhere without TheSwede's efforts.

I don't care what he claims to have known or not known, especially when he's mysteriously buying Porsches and Rolexes as soon as the scam goes live.

He fronted a scam and if he doesn't go down along with Alberto, then there is something very wrong.

Because he will help like any other to catch this scammer? Im sick of this childish game to search the guilt by everyone except themself. Yes, you were stupid as i was investing in here. Accept it and dont try being smart guessing he had to know it or he had to fake everything. Thats so poor. In fact i could say the same. You should have known that this is a scam. But admitting one made an error isnt fun. Its better to blame everything on others. And because everything is better than yourself lets take the poor PR-Guy... he claims he only did his job but he had to know more right?

This is such a stupid logic... blaming the ones that were used as a paid helper... and the only justification is a believe.

If you have evidences then come with them. But you speak about others without speaking with them. I dont have much sympathy for this.

Again, im happy that you guys are no judges. You would put guys in jail for believes i guess. And all only because you need someone to blame your own stupidity on.

And yes, i was probably way more stupid than you judging from my losses. Im only dont go around blindly beating around.
legendary
Activity: 1025
Merit: 1000
I cant believe that since such a scam only can work if the majority of the money remains in the system. When all the big players would have ended with a win then the system couldnt have played out only on the backs of the small guys.

Sure it could.  The "big" names werent in with bitcoins anymore, they long cashed out, instead they set up pass through schemes to funnel fresh money to pirate in return for a cut.

Ah you mean them... might be that a couple of them realized what happens and withdrew the fee they got. Though its more big names than big returns. Since big returns on that side means even bigger returns on the scammers side otherwise the whole thing had to be stopped by the scammer in order to make money with it.
I dont know if there really were many that won with it. On the other hand... who would admit if he did? It would be very sure that the scammed ones would shred them to pieces...

TheSwede75 didnt make 1,000BTC profit? Where do you have this from? Thats plain stupid. In fact he made a big loss. So if you cant come with some evidences or hints you shouldnt propagate such things.

I just read a post by you where you can't put 2+2 together to see how funds got to jd wallet, and now this. Grin "in fact he made a big loss" . with the fake portfolio img he show? he jump on a flight, then back to trollbox, buy 250k ftc and 50k xpm with all dreamers investment $.. There really is no fixing stupid.

*sigh* Impressive again how some guys can suck stories out of their own fingers. Wheres the proof? Surely you would use these evidences at court right? Its very easy. You claim you know that the image is fake and he will go to jail right?
What do you mean with jd wallet?

TheSwede made big money off this, somebody found his wallet, and he was buying cars+luxury watches shortly after Labcoin went live.

He is the biggest reason why this scam succeeded. He is just as responsible for it.

Just look at all his stupid posts trying to convince people to stay in this company, even when we were discovering facts that it was a scam. You really take that psychopath's word he knew nothing what was going on? Even now, I still see him in the trollbox everyday pumping Feathercoin and other garbage alts.

He is responsible? He thought it was a legit company like any other involved that bought shares. He did his work which was PR, he received shares for it and invested from his own BTC in those shares too. So now you claim he is responsible? Is howard responsible too then because he developed an asic for labcoin?

There were all the time people that claimed to know it was scam and others that didnt see the sense in it. If thats really all you have to claim he is guilty of then im glad that you guys are no judges.

I guess thats human nature. One will not be guilty of being stupid. No... that cant be. Others must have been it. They convinced me. They had to know it was wrong. Im the poor victim.

Guys... that wont work.

Why are you defending him, exactly? I'm tired of all the clicks in here, stop defending your buddy and let him speak for himself.

This scam would have not gotten anywhere without TheSwede's efforts.

I don't care what he claims to have known or not known, especially when he's mysteriously buying Porsches and Rolexes as soon as the scam goes live.

He fronted a scam and if he doesn't go down along with Alberto, then there is something very wrong.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I cant believe that since such a scam only can work if the majority of the money remains in the system. When all the big players would have ended with a win then the system couldnt have played out only on the backs of the small guys.

Sure it could.  The "big" names werent in with bitcoins anymore, they long cashed out, instead they set up pass through schemes to funnel fresh money to pirate in return for a cut.

Ah you mean them... might be that a couple of them realized what happens and withdrew the fee they got. Though its more big names than big returns. Since big returns on that side means even bigger returns on the scammers side otherwise the whole thing had to be stopped by the scammer in order to make money with it.
I dont know if there really were many that won with it. On the other hand... who would admit if he did? It would be very sure that the scammed ones would shred them to pieces...

TheSwede75 didnt make 1,000BTC profit? Where do you have this from? Thats plain stupid. In fact he made a big loss. So if you cant come with some evidences or hints you shouldnt propagate such things.

I just read a post by you where you can't put 2+2 together to see how funds got to jd wallet, and now this. Grin "in fact he made a big loss" . with the fake portfolio img he show? he jump on a flight, then back to trollbox, buy 250k ftc and 50k xpm with all dreamers investment $.. There really is no fixing stupid.

*sigh* Impressive again how some guys can suck stories out of their own fingers. Wheres the proof? Surely you would use these evidences at court right? Its very easy. You claim you know that the image is fake and he will go to jail right?
What do you mean with jd wallet?

TheSwede made big money off this, somebody found his wallet, and he was buying cars+luxury watches shortly after Labcoin went live.

He is the biggest reason why this scam succeeded. He is just as responsible for it.

Just look at all his stupid posts trying to convince people to stay in this company, even when we were discovering facts that it was a scam. You really take that psychopath's word he knew nothing what was going on? Even now, I still see him in the trollbox everyday pumping Feathercoin and other garbage alts.

He is responsible? He thought it was a legit company like any other involved that bought shares. He did his work which was PR, he received shares for it and invested from his own BTC in those shares too. So now you claim he is responsible? Is howard responsible too then because he developed an asic for labcoin?

There were all the time people that claimed to know it was scam and others that didnt see the sense in it. If thats really all you have to claim he is guilty of then im glad that you guys are no judges.

I guess thats human nature. One will not be guilty of being stupid. No... that cant be. Others must have been it. They convinced me. They had to know it was wrong. Im the poor victim.

Guys... that wont work.
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