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Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 114. (Read 1006931 times)

legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
No one put up with more abuse & harassment and bans etc over Cryptsy FUD.
Gleb you said you never used the site..
So you would have no clue for how long and how hard i rode their ass.

I called out BigVern when me and BCX came to independent conclusions he was fucking with things when BTC hit $50.
That is how long Paul's shenanigans has been going on..
I put in YEARS worth of calling out these guys long before most people even showed up.
And i took the heat for it all too !  Cheesy

Most of you don't know because you weren't there.. all along.
Hippie was on rare occasions so he knows.. we go waaay back.
Ask Kelsey or BCX for example.

Want to see my January 2014 IRC log over them vanishing for a week with Doge coins ?
The Cryptsy IRC was pounded with a new user showing up every few minutes asking.. where is my coins ?
And i alone sat there for almost a week handing out support while the mods who WERE there all of a sudden vanished.. until "Ross" *once* popped up with some snotty commentary claiming "FUD" saying there was no problem.
Odd i never seen a Ross before or after that day either.

Like they did with BTC at $50
Same old same old.. and i been warning you all all along while you wouldn't listen.
I had a 2 year head start on exposing these guys before this topic existed.

Ask any old Cryptsy staff.. they will tell you themselves LOL  Cool

PS:
The Bitcoin problem was..
When the price spiked up hard all of a sudden there would be "Network issues" on Cryptsy.
It got so predictable i started to move coins the second the price went up.. knowing Cryptsy would be fucked up.. again.
I sat on their troll box and warned users.. i would say watch.. it's coming "Network problems" etc..
And sure enough just like clock work..
Then to my surprise i seen BitcoinEXpress post a topic in Alt/main claiming he too seen the same damn thing as i did and he too thought it was super ultra fishy bullshit.

And to all others ?
TROLLING FUD of course Cool

I did not need to see any block chain shit to know they were scammy re-adding ORB in secret in DEC 2013.

And BitJohn will tell you how many YEARS i yelled at them for transparency.

I told them a bunch of times how it was sleazy sneaking coins on with no warning at all into the large market collection of ALT's ..then announcing others on purpose.
Why stay quiet about some and post on their Main page Twitter feed on some others ?
I don't suppose this would present an advantage that could be utilized for some people would it ?
Spoiler.. it would.
Almost all coins would go on super high in price and drop more & more never reaching the peak it had in the first few hours etc

Cryptsy since day one was a scammy'ish operation for the staff who sat their profiting from it playing dumb.
I know i regged there about 2 months after they opened the doors until i got a 1 year ban for saying they were hacked.. when they were.. TWICE !
AKA: just more Trolling FUD  Cool

I deserve credit because i battled with these Cryptsy guys (and their cheerleaders) to run with transparency and i actually got them to make changes and do shit and even had posted info here countless times because i asked them question and they told me.
..because i had known them for years.
For example you all found out BitJohn was no longer there because.. i told you !
And it was Horus who PM'd me to post his info the other day.. and i told him he should post it.

The only people who give me my props are believe it or not the actual older Cryptsy guys.. they know.
We went though a lot of the years.

I only ever wanted them to operate with as much honesty & transparency as possible.
I was far more concerned with that than i was stopping "the scams"
Do what ya all want.. just be open & honest about it so others can make an informed decisions.
THAT is what i ground into them day in and day out for YEARS.

I really don't hold any ill will towards any of them personally. (just disappointed it turned out this way)
I think it sums it up nicely when i argued with BitJohn etc how it was all going to play out eventually
and for years i was told i was troll and to fuck off often by chat users.. then..
He came here on this very topic and said he quit trading etc for the same damn reasons i said.
He said i was right ! ..a 180
Which is WHY Vern did what he did.. or he'd still be running Cryptsy today !

Who destroyed Cryptsy ? The scene did and their scammy ways.
When you made crypto nose dive it caused Vern to cash out.
And i warned you all it was going to happen every step of the way.
I seen it coming..

It's sad because best i could tell Cryptsy guys were sincere and started out with good intentions and occasionally yeah they stumbled or made what i perceive as sketchy decisions for their own financial gain etc.
But it never had to be this way.

The desire for short term gain killed Cryptsy. ..via the owner and their greedy self destructive users etc.

If Vern's cash cow was making money still like it was at the end of 2013 i highly doubt he would have taken the money and ran off.
Things went sour and i predicted it far in advance loudly 24/7 to anyone that would listen.

This topic is just the ending.. not "the story"

PPS:
That bitch said "living expenses" ?  Cheesy
SHE knows she does not deserve that quarter million dollars.
..she SHOULD fork it over willingly !
vip
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I dunno ask the guys ripped of with Cryptsy stocks at CryptoStocks.com
..are they still "whining" ?

I am allowed they burned my ass on it LOL

Living expenses my ass.. that chick does not deserve to win the lottery.

she didn't win the lottery. She gave up her house and ring to eliminate the risk of losing more, and the lawyers took the ring and part of the money from the house to eliminate the risk of getting nothing. The lawyers in the lawsuit think that a guaranteed 3/4ths of the money of the house is better than risking getting nothing. You are free to sue on your own if you disagree. Whining here will accomplish nothing.

There's plenty of other stuff to discuss in this thread, but you really need to stop thinking of it as her winning the lottery, it's called a compromise and if you aren't happy with it you have recourse.

She gave up the ring since it was given to her and proved to be bought with Cryptsy Funds. I agree she is complicit but this is not a criminal proceeding to find guilt. It is a liquidation of assets due to Closure of Business due to Theft, the court oversees and authorizes this aspect. Thanks to Gleb Spoetnik and Thunderjet we know who really stole the funds, but this is not the issue to the court. They found that Cryptsy is liable to their customers and are forcing liquidation.

I'll take third billing with myself placing Thunderjet first, then Spoetnik a close second due to his inputs over the years. TJ was instrumental in the blockchain forensics, whereupon I found the same and other niceties independent of his research, otherwise I would've credited him. Hell, even HippieTech was instrumental on occasions, a person I have no qualms with. Apologies for not mentioning the myriad others who've provided nuggets during the course of the final days of Cryptsy, then to date.
legendary
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I dunno ask the guys ripped of with Cryptsy stocks at CryptoStocks.com
..are they still "whining" ?

I am allowed they burned my ass on it LOL

Living expenses my ass.. that chick does not deserve to win the lottery.

she didn't win the lottery. She gave up her house and ring to eliminate the risk of losing more, and the lawyers took the ring and part of the money from the house to eliminate the risk of getting nothing. The lawyers in the lawsuit think that a guaranteed 3/4ths of the money of the house is better than risking getting nothing. You are free to sue on your own if you disagree. Whining here will accomplish nothing.

There's plenty of other stuff to discuss in this thread, but you really need to stop thinking of it as her winning the lottery, it's called a compromise and if you aren't happy with it you have recourse.

She gave up the ring since it was given to her and proved to be bought with Cryptsy Funds. I agree she is complicit but this is not a criminal proceeding to find guilt. It is a liquidation of assets due to Closure of Business due to Theft, the court oversees and authorizes this aspect. Thanks to Gleb Spoetnik and Thunderjet we know who really stole the funds, but this is not the issue to the court. They found that Cryptsy is liable to their customers and are forcing liquidation.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Maybe if you all started contacting Lorie Nettles she will give you some of her $250,000.00 she scored.
..after all it's YOUR money guys.



I predict next year Cryptsy will be long gone.. AKA: pulled a Gox.

ALWAYS RIGHT  Cool
sr. member
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Who must we contact to have money refund from cryptsy ?
Tx
sr. member
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Just so people here know I tried to contact [email protected] but still no response I doubt they really want to return people's money.

They never reply back .

Batter try here
https://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/james-d-sallah-esq-538871
legendary
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I'm very excited for your own individual lawsuit Spoetnik, it's going to be fun to watch the show go on after everyone else gets a little bit of money back.

what should happen doesn't actually matter. what should have happened is people should have been smart enough to run from a shitty exchange that wasn't letting people withdraw. 3/4 of the money from the house is better than nithing, maybe one day you'll learn that what should happen means absolutely nothing.

if getting all of the house was a slam dunk, they'd be getting all of the house.
sr. member
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Just so people here know I tried to contact [email protected] but still no response I doubt they really want to return people's money.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Phildo you can go fuck yourself defending that cow and her 250k for living expenses.
I will discuss it if it pertains to the topic at hand.. and it does so blow me.
In case you forgot.. i was here warning you all loudly for ages while this was happening. (Where were you?)
And if people listened to me or Gleb Gamow or a few others we could have saved a lot more users from getting ripped off from Miss Nettles and her ex-husband she was happy to be a reference for.

And don't forget Philly boy.. he ran other scams BEFORE Cryptsy.. so how long were they together ?

By the way see the Poll stats on my topic ? 100% no !

PS:
Where i come from yeah getting $250,000.00 usd is in fact like winning the lottery.
If i won that much on the lottery in Kelowna BC Canada i would be featured in my local news media.

Not everyone in crypto is a multi-million dollar suit & tie wearing corporate pig here for PROFITZ
Not when the suit wearing pigs keep GOX'ing us LOL

Phil i will love seeing you defend that cow when in time i am certain we will have more dirt on her.
I will be happy to dig this up and remind you of your white-knighting shenanigans.
All it takes is BigVern to tell HIS side of the story and i bet that cow will be running for a lawyer in a hurry.

She knows damn well that money belongs to the users of Cryptsy who were ripped off for many millions of dollars so she knows, she should voluntarily forfeit the quarter million dollar bonus cash prize.
She thinks she is entitled to stolen money because she has rich taste and high "living expenses" ?

Puuuuuhlease gimme a break.. she should fork it all over and say sorry.
THEN go get a damn job.
sr. member
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I m worry about nonsense crypto dump by Court n create more problems .
Just name of stability  .

Spoetnik :- said she bitch that true

 ,she rape cryptsy user sure
legendary
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I dunno ask the guys ripped of with Cryptsy stocks at CryptoStocks.com
..are they still "whining" ?

I am allowed they burned my ass on it LOL

Living expenses my ass.. that chick does not deserve to win the lottery.

she didn't win the lottery. She gave up her house and ring to eliminate the risk of losing more, and the lawyers took the ring and part of the money from the house to eliminate the risk of getting nothing. The lawyers in the lawsuit think that a guaranteed 3/4ths of the money of the house is better than risking getting nothing. You are free to sue on your own if you disagree. Whining here will accomplish nothing.

There's plenty of other stuff to discuss in this thread, but you really need to stop thinking of it as her winning the lottery, it's called a compromise and if you aren't happy with it you have recourse.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
I dunno ask the guys ripped of with Cryptsy stocks at CryptoStocks.com
..are they still "whining" ?

I am allowed they burned my ass on it LOL

Living expenses my ass.. that chick does not deserve to win the lottery.
legendary
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What part of your Nettles defense did you guys outline how she is deserving of a quarter million dollars for living expenses ?

If there IS money available for the victims then they should be paid every last cent possible.
Not leaving the thief's wife a nice big cut of the stolen money for her to enjoy.

again, if you are not happy with this, sue her yourself.  the lawyers who have access to all the facts think that this guaranteed payout is better than the risk/effort/expense of a trial.

your constant whining sounds a lot like what the people who ripped up their refund checks from hash fast because they weren't the full BTC refunds. how'd that work out for them?
legendary
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What part of your Nettles defense did you guys outline how she is deserving of a quarter million dollars for living expenses ?

If there IS money available for the victims then they should be paid every last cent possible.
Not leaving the thief's wife a nice big cut of the stolen money for her to enjoy.

PS:
Vote on it Wink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-should-lorie-nettles-get-250k-1668156
vip
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If she is guilty enough to lose some of the money from selling the house she should be forking it all over.
There is a reason it was sold off from her..
She should not get to keep 1 damn cent.

If she is innocent then why are they taking the damn house at all ?

And 250k ?
She can go rent an apartment etc for chump change like most people do.
The Cryptsy Princess has to sell her Crown and diamonds ? awwwww so sad  Cry

The only thing i want to hear is that she is brought up on charges and investigated.

You guys should try reading a book or a newspaper and learn how the real world works.

The idea of a settlement is to meet somewhere in the middle to reduce the risks for both sides.

one possibility is that she walked away owing the class nothing. That would not be a great outcome for the class.

Another possibility is that she would be found liable to owe the class tons of money, that would not be a great outcome for her.

The point of a settlement is to find somewhere in the middle.

If you are not happy and you feel this woman owes you money, withdraw from the class and sue her yourself after she already gives most of the liquid assets she has left to the members of the class and see where it leads you.

Dude, start your own thread if you're gonna start posting shit that makes [virtually] perfect sense.  Wink Wink Wink
legendary
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If she is guilty enough to lose some of the money from selling the house she should be forking it all over.
There is a reason it was sold off from her..
She should not get to keep 1 damn cent.

If she is innocent then why are they taking the damn house at all ?

And 250k ?
She can go rent an apartment etc for chump change like most people do.
The Cryptsy Princess has to sell her Crown and diamonds ? awwwww so sad  Cry

The only thing i want to hear is that she is brought up on charges and investigated.

You guys should try reading a book or a newspaper and learn how the real world works.

The idea of a settlement is to meet somewhere in the middle to reduce the risks for both sides.

one possibility is that she walked away owing the class nothing. That would not be a great outcome for the class.

Another possibility is that she would be found liable to owe the class tons of money, that would not be a great outcome for her.

The point of a settlement is to find somewhere in the middle.

If you are not happy and you feel this woman owes you money, withdraw from the class and sue her yourself after she already gives most of the liquid assets she has left to the members of the class and see where it leads you.
sr. member
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Hi Guys,

Sorry I guess that my following question has been asked many times but (...) so here it is:

I had some cryptocurrencies on my cryptsy account, so is there a way I can get it back ?

I mean can I join a class action or something like that ?

Thanks guys, too much work these last 2 years, so I didn't had time to follow cryptocurrencies news, if someone can help me it would be great ! Smiley
legendary
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It's called a settlement. Give her 250k to get her to give up the other stuff instead of having to spend time/effort/money to TRY and get it from her.

Before crying note that this is all taking place in florida, where OJ Simpson was able to live in a 500k+ house despite owing the Goldman family 35 million dollars for a case where HE was found liable, getting a house that Vernon's ex-wife lived in is nothing close to a slam dunk.

That is one steaming load of bull..
For one thing what did she "give up" on this class action lawsuit in order to win the lottery ?
Which is NOT the point of the class action lawsuit..
She was not plea bargaining with criminal charges was she ?
NO.
She received a settlement .

WHY ?

Further more OJ was found guilty at the END of the trial.
So how could he have owed them before being found guilty ?

I'd say nice try but it wasn't..

EDIT: toned it down i did not mean to be so insulting Wink

oj moved to Florida AFTER being found liable because he knew they couldn't take his house if he lived there.

this woman already lived in florida, so IF she was found to owe the members of the class money (which was not a guarantee) they might not have made her sell the house because they don't make people sell their houses to pay off judgementsin Florida.

that was the settlement, she gives them the money from the house that they might not be entitled to, minus a sum, and she is done with the case.

this makes sense for her because she won't owe more money than she has. this works for members of the class because it gives them more money from her NOW then they expect to get from her over time.

yes, it sucks that people got fucked by Cryptsy, but that has already happened and the money is gone. a guaranteed portion of that house is better than trying to get more money that is gone.

By her living in the house, Lorie Nettles can delay its sale by: having a tom cat spray the fuck out of it; keep it untidy to turn off perspective buyers; dissuade buyers by disclosing issues with the home, whether real or not; stay steadfast on a high asking price; refuse offers. The list goes on. The bottomline, the Chinese bitch is in full control since she was allowed to stay in the home. I can't see this house selling within the next year, perhaps two years down the road when Nettles finally relents due to such action no longer being in her best interest.

I'm having issues with how a million-dollar-plus house purchased with stolen moneys is able to be sold, then given the spouse of the thief ~1/4 of the moneys. Did a judge make that determination?

The Class Action doesn't find guilt about Big Vern, it finds that people are rightfully owed money and the company is insolvent. The court doesn't even care about the hack, they are just trying to get assets of the company and disburse them. I don't even think it is a criminal proceeding since it seeks to find compensation for a class and is civil law, which is why someone is allowed to keep their equity from the house. If your company had a person with title to a property and you were the one committing the bad business practice, you are held liable not the other party who has interest in the property. So your interest would be dissolved and the other party would retain their interest and be liquidated upon sale of the property. You could not stop the sale though being the party who was a bystander. Not to say she was either...

Victims would not be parties to a Criminal case and are not entitled to the due process rights they would otherwise enjoy in a civil case. The prosecutors do not represent the victims in a criminal case. So by that alone we have a civil Class Action and Cryptsy is being protected by Bankruptcy laws too.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
If she is guilty enough to lose some of the money from selling the house she should be forking it all over.
There is a reason it was sold off from her..
She should not get to keep 1 damn cent.

If she is innocent then why are they taking the damn house at all ?

And 250k ?
She can go rent an apartment etc for chump change like most people do.
The Cryptsy Princess has to sell her Crown and diamonds ? awwwww so sad  Cry

The only thing i want to hear is that she is brought up on charges and investigated.
legendary
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Horus, good to see you, brother!  Smiley

Great! We're back to being infiltrated by Freemasons.  Wink Wink Wink

Hahaha.  I've never heard that before.  

Let's not forget those troublemaker Christians.  lol

Edit:  Horus was always helpful and a great guy to have around crypto.  Glad he stuck around. 
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