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legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
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I don't think they like where I'm going with this Dooglus, Dabs dice thingy..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13039711
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legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
I don't think that is a stretch and sounds plausible to me..
But i have to admit i only heard bits of that later as time went on.
I was more concerned with other Cryptsy drama when those shares were a thing.
Pretty sure the shares thing was going on before i got a 1 year chat ban.

So this Mintsy stuff was different or what ?
I was late to the party on that drama too. (unless it's the same thing ?)
legendary
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Could Cryptsy's MN2 be a Bernie Madoff market of Fake Mining Shares?

From Cryptsy's info Wiki: http://wiki.cryptsy.com/chatter:new-mining-2/p/2
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Who is providing the mining?
Currently the provider has asked us not to disclose this information. You can be assured that we would not do business with anybody who is less than reputable.

First Cryptsy could have taken BitCoin for Madoff Madeup shares. Then they keep 5000 since they are fake anyways and Cryptsy accepted approx 92 BitCoin from half the total 10,000 shares at .0185 per share. Cryptsy baits people into the market saying the cost gets higher after 24 and 48 hours but that the market won't open till all shares are sold and that there are no trading fees until the market opens. So you will have to pay more later no matter what if you want in.

Early market open is a must since the shares are Fake! If they just held the market closed then they would have to pay from the 92 BitCoin they collected until all 10,000 were sold. This may be the proof there was no mining contract with a PetaHash level provider.

Cryptsy opens early only after 5,000 shares sold from the 10,000 needed to open and allow fractions to be traded devaluing and diluting the market. Cryptsy could use some of the 5000 shares they now set aside to plummet the market on open taking more BTC from buyers. Which it did and many users were not aware the market had even opened since only 5000 shares were sold. Then all they have to do is pay out meager mining rewards from the 92 BitCoin while selling occasionally to offset the payment of Mining Shares. Then Cryptsy Raffles off 200 MN2 for the sum of 28 BitCoin which were never part of the market and supposed to be held by Cryptsy. Someone paid a small sum of Cryptsy points for these shares and most likely sell to drive down the price even further yet these were not a part of the real market.

So Cryptsy has a big problem by raffling shares that were not supposed to be a part of the market, and if Cryptsy did have a real contract then Cryptsy was also paid for those shares since the market payout is 10,000 and not 5,000.

Both instances leave opportunity for Fraud. Since we don't know if the 5000 were sold and we do know Cryptsy would Raffle them which makes it plausible they would also sell them with no one any wiser. Along with the fact that we don't know how much of the Cryptsy points were sold by Cryptsy vs their users in the market.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
it just dawned on me 2 famous names here are the same guy..
when poking around i see this..

If somone wants to take over ADT then just fucking do it i have spent so much money on it and get 0 thanks i dident dump a single coin i stoped jag making it a pump and dump i paid a crapload of money for automated swap program that people dident use got adtv2 made for 4k usd because nobody would code it for less and mullick fucked me around i took time away from work to work with coders to get an update for adtv2 and got fucked over there i am fed up with the constant complaining from people that should be helping when adt is runing well be it me or a new dev the swap will restart
EDIT there has been more complaining on here about adt than any of the blatent pump and dump coins adt is still worth around the same vs ltc that it was 1 year ago the price has been very stable due to the fact its not a pump and dump coin

well i was poking around looking at info on other people but stumbled onto this quote..

You guys will note i have mentioned before zackclark70, Jagropolite and Mullick of course.
And to recap ADT was a failed coin that i actually helped launch on Cryptsy chat with the Back room boys
while it had no ANN topic here.
The web of deceit is large guys.. REALLY large !
I always had my suspicions but since this topic more and more is coming to light and it's worse than i thought.
The thing is i never really bothered to go and lookup info on these guys.. now that i look i am saying links
links i should have seen all along but wasn't paying attention.

I feel stabbed in the back by all these sleazy fuckers.. they all juggle shit loads of accounts pretending.

So that quote is just a piece of a large web all tied to Cryptsy and the Back Room Boy's
I would like Zackclark to come and speak up here !
I think i know why all these players won't come and dish up some dirt on Cryptsy.. do you ?
legendary
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So I'm waiting on a 2.05 btc withdrawal. It's been 31 hours. What are the chances that I ever see my money?

It will never go through unless you send your ID to prove you are screwed on their exchange. It will take a while to split that up into lower amounts.
newbie
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So I'm waiting on a 2.05 btc withdrawal. It's been 31 hours. What are the chances that I ever see my money?
hero member
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I have been unable to withdraw BTC from their sister website, Mintsy.com

Anyone else experiencing a problem with Mintsy?

They also have a questionable stock option listing at www.cryptostocks.com that I am sure the Feds would be interested in looking at. They are selling shares of their monthly bitcoin trade fee rake to fund the exchanges quest to be able to buy and sell bitcoin for money directly to and from bank accounts.

Basically DigitalBTC ran off with all the miners and revenues... Don't have an NDA with them haha. Cryptostocks is a whole other story not affiliated. Back in the day Vern was going to use them to kickstart the FIAT stuff. Apparently that guy ran off. So the Cyptsy folks have ZERO records of who owns the trade revenue shares. (its not a stock)
its not a stock and crypsty does not benefit from the trading of those shares. they did benefit from the original sale though.
the site up up and down for the past few months....currently down
I think vern should know who owns shares as he always manually distributed the dividends (percentage of fees)....I think last time was in august.
newbie
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I'll read that later, not going to bother with it now.. I'm actually going to try to get 4 hours of sleep.. Smiley   g'night
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry

Your buddy came in and trolled me and I engaged, you're not gonna start in on me too now are ya?
 
Why you guys hate on Hamms?   Sad
It's clearly the best beer ever made..

I trolled YOU ? oh that is rich.. read the previous page where YOU popped up speaking FIRST.
Further more you have rather foolishly involved yourself and your ongoing Stakeminers fraud drama
by contacting me on Poloniex's chat.. FIRST.
I didn't even know who you were man LOL
You even harped on saying do you know who i am ? Provoking me outright !
Then the next thing out of your mouth is Stakeminers is being picked (and Cryptsy) your friend Leroy
and that your are a high volume user on Cryptsy.
So that shows it was YOU that has bent over injecting yourself Leroy and Stakeminers into all this.

It's not like you had something to say defending Cryptsy and i jumped on you or something.
As some "partner" of Leroy's you sure earned your professional title.. Chairman or something ?
I don't see what your doing here is a laughing matter either.
You are implicated in an even bigger scandal / scam topic in this forum section on Stakeminers.
So how smart is it to drag all that right into this topic too ?
The tie in was created by you Mr High Volume Cryptsy Trader.

You dismisses anything and everything that was said thus far by every person that commented (on Polo chat)
by saying we were picking on Stakeminers, Your friends AND CRYPTSY.
Flying in the face of Cryptsy staff acknowledging previous issues.

I have nothing against Horus i don't always believe what he or anyone says and i have always been curious about alt accounts
And the same goes for BitJohn etc.. i have always said i have many fishy stories where things don't look right.
Often they themselves have admitted they can see where we are coming sometimes on this stuff.
The silence when problems arrive has been an old problem with Cryptsy.
To speculate etc on the reason(s) why i think is fair.

The last thing i said to Horus on this topic was.. (main page) Twitter Feed.. USE IT ! .
Had they been doing that all along a lot of guys like me would have side stepped some bad incidents.
How hard is it for them to check on coins occasionally and see if they work on the exchange
then if there is a problem at the very least warn us all ?
I want to add that often they should have paused markets when they know the coins is not working.
WHEN THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING IT FEELS LIKE YOUR WALKING INTO A TRAP !

What i am saying here is very fair.. that is not picking on them.
Have i been harsh ? Yes absolutely because i have pleaded with them since mid to late 2013 to at least keep us in the loop.
Read what suchMoon said about withdrawals.. Then go try and arb coins.. then find out your broke !
Gonna be mad ?
Would you arb a coin that has a message in the main page twitter feed saying withdrawals are broken ?

I don't take this stuff too personal but i am an end user not a service provider.
(an end user who deserves a minmum level of service quality)

And do i HATE anyone in crypto ? naw i honesty think that word is too strong.
Not full of hate but passionate and often frustrated watching the same old crap repeat.
when it could have been resolved mostly long ago.

If you leave us all the dark when reoccurring *waves* of problems show up we're gonna get mad.
And we are going to call conspiracy if we see an ongoing pattern.. such as pre Gox shutdown symptoms.

Myself ? I don't think i have been picking on anyone.

PS:
Terik if you read this far down.. how much was the extortion and where is the BTC records showing the coins Wink

I am not bs'ing here to cover some Troll antics.. i am being sincere and i hope to appeal to all peoples analytical side.

EDIT: Get some rest Terrik your gonna need it hahaaha Wink
vip
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Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry

Your buddy came in and trolled me and I engaged, you're not gonna start in on me too now are ya?
 
Why you guys hate on Hamms?   Sad
It's clearly the best beer ever made..

Dude, Hamm's in reference to the Hammes' dude who is cryptohobo on this forum. I'll admit to making the mistake in saying that Horus is the cryptohobo on this forum of which he is not. I'm also leaning heavily in believing that Horus is not pr9me upon further review.

I only know Horus as Horus.. He's pretty cool, I've never really had any issues with him, I'd drink some Hamms with him...

Now, fess up and state why you're really tight with Leroy Fodor. My guess is that Leroy's easy to manipulate, thus why Netcoin is so heavily staked by StakeMiners.

I dunno, me and Leroy hang out and chat sometimes, we don't always chat about crypto, play some vdeo games together etc.. I get along with him alright, I don't think he'd burn me, and if he did, it would only be once.. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt untill I get screwed once.. and he hasn't done me wrong yet, the payouts look right for what I have invested, compared to what I get with my own stake wallets..

BTW, the extortion amount is 35 BTC, so please remind Leroy to pay up my extortion request since he has me on ignore in spite of reading ALL my posts. HAHAHA
LoL.. that's a good chunk of change not to be trolled.. XD
 
You never did answer me earlier today, when I asked if you've ever had any stake coins btw..  Just wondering..

With apologies, no I do not have any stake coins nor a satoshi of any alts. Nothing against them, just never got into them.

BTW, the extortion attempt on my part is ONLY real in Leroy's mind. There never was any extortion attempt by me to somehow quiet my stance against Leroy Fodor. I can easily provide proof of such with most everybody else here backing me up.
newbie
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Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry

Your buddy came in and trolled me and I engaged, you're not gonna start in on me too now are ya?
 
Why you guys hate on Hamms?   Sad
It's clearly the best beer ever made..

Dude, Hamm's in reference to the Hammes' dude who is cryptohobo on this forum. I'll admit to making the mistake in saying that Horus is the cryptohobo on this forum of which he is not. I'm also leaning heavily in believing that Horus is not pr9me upon further review.

I only know Horus as Horus.. He's pretty cool, I've never really had any issues with him, I'd drink some Hamms with him...

Now, fess up and state why you're really tight with Leroy Fodor. My guess is that Leroy's easy to manipulate, thus why Netcoin is so heavily staked by StakeMiners.

I dunno, me and Leroy hang out and chat sometimes, we don't always chat about crypto, play some vdeo games together etc.. I get along with him alright, I don't think he'd burn me, and if he did, it would only be once.. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt untill I get screwed once.. and he hasn't done me wrong yet, the payouts look right for what I have invested, compared to what I get with my own stake wallets..

BTW, the extortion amount is 35 BTC, so please remind Leroy to pay up my extortion request since he has me on ignore in spite of reading ALL my posts. HAHAHA
LoL.. that's a good chunk of change not to be trolled.. XD
 
You never did answer me earlier today, when I asked if you've ever had any stake coins btw..  Just wondering..
 
EDIT: Ahhh..  That's cool, so you just trade the BTC markets at OKcoin, Bittfinex, and Coinbase then?    I trade alot of alts, and cash out and sell on the bitcoin spikes, then buy back in and buy back into the alts.. it's the same pattern over and over, people like to say the markets aren't linked, but it's the same thing over and over..  I did hold alot more of my stake coins this time around though, but if it had spiked to $700+, would have been a different story.. Smiley
 
I wasn't there, so I have no way of knowing one way or another for sure... and it really doesn't involve me, I try to stay away from stuff like that whenever possible..
vip
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Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry

Your buddy came in and trolled me and I engaged, you're not gonna start in on me too now are ya?
 
Why you guys hate on Hamms?   Sad
It's clearly the best beer ever made..

Dude, Hamm's in reference to the Hammes' dude who is cryptohobo on this forum. I'll admit to making the mistake in saying that Horus is the cryptohobo on this forum of which he is not. I'm also leaning heavily in believing that Horus is not pr9me upon further review.

Now, fess up and state why you're really tight with Leroy Fodor. My guess is that Leroy's easy to manipulate, thus why Netcoin is so heavily staked by StakeMiners.

BTW, the extortion amount is 35 BTC, so please remind Leroy to pay up my extortion request since he has me on ignore in spite of reading ALL my posts. HAHAHA
newbie
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Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry

Your buddy came in and trolled me and I engaged, you're not gonna start in on me too now are ya?
 
Why you guys hate on Hamms?   Sad
It's clearly the best beer ever made..
vip
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Sometimes FUD is just

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"I can't think of a better person than you, Worf, to eat Fud after he tried to fuck Spot in the ass. May I suggest that you enjoy him with some fava beans and a nice Chianti?"
vip
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Damn you guys! I leave for ONLY 2 hours from the last time I posted on this thread to shovel a foot of snow from around the house and I missed all the action. Now I have to catch up.  Cry Cry Cry
legendary
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"Listen up, Cryptsy Team! Stop what you're doin' and find every account that has "moon" in its user name. Then cross-reference it with a recent 0.1 BTC deposit. When the dude makes a withdraw, we wanna be ready to facilitate the remittance ASAP. This'll buy us more time to... to... to what? Somebody help me out here as to what the fuck we're doin'"

Funny you should say that because the account I created at that time got it's BTC withdrawal approved within 20 minutes.

But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.  Grin

So here is what I got so far. I did 11 withdrawals on 3 different accounts.

DASH - 3 withdrawals, all sent within 5 minutes
DOGE - 2 withdrawals, one sent within 10 minutes, another took about 2 hours.
LTC - 3 withdrawals, one sent with within 10 minutes, another took about an hour, and yet another still pending after 1 hour.
BTC - 3 withdrawals, one sent with within 20 minutes, another took about 4 hours, and yet another took between 7-12 hours (not sure about the correct starting time for this one as it was done on a disposable e-mail and Cryptsy timestamp is clearly wrong).

Overall it turned out better than I expected, however:

1) These are all tiny withdrawals, most under $10. There is no reason why they shouldn't be instantaneous.
2) I have no idea how KYC would affect things. Not sending my mugshots to Belize under any circumstances.
3) The random nature of the delays is scary. You put a withdrawal in and it may or may not show up later today or tomorrow or next week. No explanation, no indication of the status other than "Pending".

tl;dr: avoid Cryptsy. There is no lack of working exchanges, polo and trex to name a couple. If you end up losing coins on Cryptsy I will come back to haunt you.

^^^   NO LIE.

He's still haunting me from XPY Paycoin!       

and rightly so.
newbie
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are you suggesting that I trade with stakeminer's coins?  I have my own coins, and I don't have to prove anything to you... but if you check out some of the block explorerers, you can find some of my wallets, they're not hiding..

I am suggesting nothing.. i quoted you.. proof is on polonibox forever.. every word you ever said.
You make alot of suggestions, most of them unsubstantiated, and just plain wrong.
2nd of all i have asked 4 times now to prove your scam site is legit.
I don't have to prove anything to you, you're not even invested
Let's see a record you have the investors Bitcoin.
all investors can keep track of their investments and returns on the site daily, it's all very transparent
When you are wrapped up in controversy with scam claims and caught lying i think it's only fair to prove it.
the only controversy is the controversy you've conjured up in your own mind
EDIT:
You help run an investment scheme in an unregulated market where you took around 40 grand from investors.
Nobody took anything from anyone.
You guys have been investigated by fraud by the community and many people claim you are fraudulent.
who are these people you claim to have investigated stakeminers? it's clear you were not one of them, because you have not presented any facts yet
You then cry to me on chat i am picking on your Stakeminers crap and Cryptsy unjustly claiming EXTORTION etc.
I don't cry, and yes, the extortion was well documented, but I was not the one they contacted directly, nor do I really care, it was stupid on their part
Then when i say how much ?
You say i don't know.. hmm rather odd you wouldn't know that ?
again, I don't know, I didn't ask what the amount was for, I honestly don't care
Mean while you are on Poloniex and not Cryptsy bragging about being a high volume trader on Cryptsy.
that's true, I do trade significant amounts of crypto when I have time to trade
And yeah i am sure you have your own money..
the only thing I've gotten from stakeminers is the money paid on my investment
I am also sure you got it from Stakeminers LOL

Investors don't have a right to know their money is not being spent by a high roller on another site mired in scam accusations ?
every investor can see exactly what they're being returned daily on their member page
And sorry but i seen pic's of you and you don't like no high roller with your Hamm's bear shirt LOL
you happened to grab a few pics off my facebook of me in my work clothes after work, I work for a beer distributor, and who cares what people dress like, you really that shallow?
What kind of lucky magical story do you have for getting all that high volume coin ?
there is nothing magical or lucky about it..
Trade tip's from Unicorns in your sleep ?
You dream about unicorn tips? what?
No wait you were involved with Bitcoin in 2011 with Leroy right ?
Hrmm.. I dunno exactly when I got involved in bitcoin, but I was mining it with r9 290's back in the day if that's any reference, thanks for showing some interest in my experience with bitcoin
You realize were all just leaving the rope on the floor for your laughing ass right ?
I'm laughing at your ass right now, you know that right?
Time is running out and your scam site is collapsing and you have little time to laugh it up my Hamm's beer high roller Poloniex trader friend LOL
It's not a scam, I've seen the stake wallets, I've seen the backend of the pool, I see the payouts, and I have my own stake wallets and am familiar with the returns they produce.
legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
I troll two scammers in the morning..

.. troll two more at night.. xD

troll two more the next afternoon..

Imagine that.. Dooglus the scammin sockpuppet noob..

HAHAHAHAHAAA
legendary
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https://bpip.org
"Listen up, Cryptsy Team! Stop what you're doin' and find every account that has "moon" in its user name. Then cross-reference it with a recent 0.1 BTC deposit. When the dude makes a withdraw, we wanna be ready to facilitate the remittance ASAP. This'll buy us more time to... to... to what? Somebody help me out here as to what the fuck we're doin'"

Funny you should say that because the account I created at that time got it's BTC withdrawal approved within 20 minutes.

But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.  Grin

So here is what I got so far. I did 11 withdrawals on 3 different accounts.

DASH - 3 withdrawals, all sent within 5 minutes
DOGE - 2 withdrawals, one sent within 10 minutes, another took about 2 hours.
LTC - 3 withdrawals, one sent with within 10 minutes, another took about an hour, and yet another still pending after 1 hour.
BTC - 3 withdrawals, one sent with within 20 minutes, another took about 4 hours, and yet another took between 7-12 hours (not sure about the correct starting time for this one as it was done on a disposable e-mail and Cryptsy timestamp is clearly wrong).

Overall it turned out better than I expected, however:

1) These are all tiny withdrawals, most under $10. There is no reason why they shouldn't be instantaneous.
2) I have no idea how KYC would affect things. Not sending my mugshots to Belize under any circumstances.
3) The random nature of the delays is scary. You put a withdrawal in and it may or may not show up later today or tomorrow or next week. No explanation, no indication of the status other than "Pending".

tl;dr: avoid Cryptsy. There is no lack of working exchanges, polo and trex to name a couple. If you end up losing coins on Cryptsy I will come back to haunt you.
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