Topic: Current List of Competitive Hardware - January 2020 (Read 13121 times)

if you run 2000 watts or less at home you may make a profit with gpu rigs

but if you run with an asic mining btc directly  you need 3000+ watts and  a 240 volt circuit .

all direct asic mining at home kind of needs 240 volt and a 20 amp circuit.

a used s17 pro pulls 2200 watts at about 53th

it is loud and 53 th is about 0.08 x 53 = $4.24 usd a day

 so 2.2 x 24 = 53 kwatts a day which would be

5.30 a day power in for a 10 cent power fee

most homes are over 10 cents. a kwatt.

but as ognasty told you gpu mining can profit at home.


I can run a 600 watt gpu miner that does 160mh.

it will earn 0.0009648  btc a day which is $10.51 usd a day for only 600 watts.

I have a thread in alt coins that would help you build a gpu rig.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/number-9-ninth-altcoin-thread-back-to-the-moon-baby-5144362

mining btc via auto vert on nicehash is better then mining btc directly at this moment.



sometimes it is the other way around mining btc directly with an asic is better.

Don't talk about machines that mine coins other than bitcoin.  This is the BTC mining section.

So you need to move thread to altcoin section

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0


these are not my rules.  most likely this set of posts by you will be moved there on Friday by the mods.

THANK YOU !
That post / response was terrific.

I recently purchased a z15 but the info from asicminervalue.com was not quite accurate in terms of profitability when I loaded my electricity cost - 6 cents, hosted.
The site is good enough to approximate with.


I have found whattomine.com to be more exact & specific ... updated daily. It's terrific also.

At 6 cents for a kw/h, I'd like a machine that pays for itself in 90 to 180 days and then generates good to high double digit income.

The challenge is forecasting which currency will increase in value - the most - going forward.


If there is a list of most profitable machines more accurate than asicminervalue I'd like to know.

Top 2 profitable are A10 for ETH and BM-k1 by IBELINK for the kadena coin.

If anyone has any suggestions I would be delighted to hear them.

Thanks again !

Actually it is a legit question and is based more on. watts per th. than price of gear.

ie if you have free power a 200 usd purchase of s9s with psu's make around 56th at .1237 a th = $ 6.92 usd a day

but if you have 10 cent power 4 s9's burn 4x1.2= 4.8 maybe 5 kwatts an hour that would be 120kwatts at 10 cents = $12.00 usd in power


So an s9 is really good with free power as it is cheap to buy
and an s9 sucks with 10 cent power it loses money


now take an s17pro they can be found here and there for 1100

52 th at 2.2 kwatts

it earns 6.43 usd with free power
at ten cent power cost it burns 53 kwatts or 5.30 a day so 6.43-5.30 = 1.13 profit


so to summarize s9  pays off in

200/6.92 = under 30 days at free power
200/-5.08 = never pays off at 10 cent power

s17pro pays off in
1100/6.43 = 172 days at free power
1100/1.13 = 974 days at 10 cent power


this is a more accurate way to think of which gear is more competitive.

other factors s9's are easier to keep running than s17pro's

and if 1 s9 break you still have 3 running
if 1 s17pro breaks you have zip running.

^^^ Um, 1st page here... Mainly ONLY buy directly from the manufacturers. Most other places are not to be trusted as they are either scams or zero help when a miner fails.

That said, the only reseller/distributor I trust is [ur=https://blokforge.com/l]Blokforge [/url]who are an authorized distributor for Avalons. They also carry miners from Bitmain and Innosilicon. Over the past several years I've used Blockforge for buying dozens of Avalons.

Does anyone know legitimate websites to buy miners from?

Very reasonable. Ok, I have no attachment to them I just like to see competitors.

Both Cheetah's F7 and StrongU Ut-U8 look interesting at their advertised W/T but I admit I have not seen any concrete evidence they actually exist.

@Sundance__
Articles on crypto "news" sites about new equipment and companies are typically all but useless. Very few sites check 'news' that is submitted to them and in fact usually are 'pay to print'. Until gear is in the hands of trusted members here and reviewed by them consider all reports as at least highly suspicious.

agreed with the method

ultimately i was posting to actually necro it for you and it was the only piece of genuine info i could offer so i am glad

I am not suggesting anything about Cheetah other than I know they exist as there's F5s out there

https://xueqiu.com/6573887165/152139326. This article has quite a bit on them and their team.

Sorry I missed this thanks for your contribution. I'll likely be updating the OP this week as I've been focusing elsewhere.


I'll keep an eye out but won't add it to the list until it ships and can be confirmed real. Apart from that you can start a discussion tread or find one if it exists and discuss there. Thanks.

Then there is the cheetah miner f7!
Shipping this month does 39W/T.

Curious whether people have had any experience with them?

Updated main list to include the Bitamin S17+. Used red color to identify gear on that list drawing 3KW or more, as suggested by Kano. Bitmain speculation has been changed to 5nm chip speculation thread as there are no miners on the horizon but that's the direction they are going.

While I don't think the entire conversation that went on here should have been removed most of it was turning this into a discussion thread. I still welcome and accept all suggestions, such as the 3KW+ tagging. As well as any miners people feel should be added to the list. Feel free to post or PM if you have anything to add.

Updated Pricing based earliest available batch ,then least expensive. Changed Canaan 1041 to 1047 as that seems to be their current offering. Included review/review posts for Innosilicon T3, and 1047. Added Speculation links for Avalon 1066, Bitmain 17+ series miners and Innosilicon T3+. Let me know if something isn't correct or you have a concern.

Again, out of the country, I had an offer of $900 Innsolicon 30TH at 2,200 watts with $50 shipping to the states. Don't help me any with 36.7% tariff and import fees etc. This comes out to $1,307.20 there vs with USA tariffs after September 1st, 2019 or if you are a VAT Tax country..you may be sh*t out of luck on all this.

Hosting overseas legit? meh...?

I could post the info here and flesh it out some to see if legit. Indeed even pay the guy after I got this $1,307.20 30TH beastie for a review. Not worth the bother. Sorry. Hopefully, this is NOT off-topic in that just showing the difference in prices I'm being offered by individuals on the above Innsolicon. If they make a legit offer of say at 53TH at 3200 watts for say $1,499 I may just cry. I'd still be way out of the running in the USA.

Sorry, again, this SHOULD be on-topic just to show what is floating around in the wind for prices, in and out of USA anyway. Stuff that needs to be at the forefront of our miner calcs now the 36.7% frigging tariff.

Again, if you really want the contact info to flesh this out in this thread I can put it out there, but without a 'pay when you get it' and a review, I'm not going to. In that does me no good in the USA. So have legit links now for this new hardware page that is not even worth the hassle of my time in venting on a pay after it arrives review with the tariffs.

brad

Well I'm not giving them an A+ on anything, but looking at their site it looks like 53 TH for 13800 Yaun = ~1960 USD for this gear  - 53T ASIC miner Cheetah Miner-F5M with PSU
I did reach out to them for information and to ask if they had anyone performing reviews. I do not recommend anyone send them money until gear has been seen and verified by an independent party. Positives are that they are not just blindly accepting payment via the site, but will have a service rep reach out to you.

The 30TH model may just be an outlier of a small company that doesn't update their website very well. It should really just say in-stock if it is still available. We'll see if I hear back from them or something materializes in the wild.

$370 for 30TH

afraid odds are 9 out of 10 this is a scam.

sorry

If it is too good to be true, it often is correct, too good to be true.

brad

I don't know why but they seem very familiar. Did they have less efficient gear before?  That would be one reason they never made the list if their offerings weren't competitive at the time. I also withhold putting a company on here until there is some proof of gear and specs. They do have a few pieces that claim really good efficiency with delivery for October based on the site.

Did some digging and there was some talk of them a few months back but doesn't seem to be much else. I'll definitely keep an eye on them.

You could include Cheetah miner manufacturer, looks very promising and interesting.

Not a paid post, you can check out its official website: https://www.cheetah-miner.com/?lang=en

PS: Beware of scamming site: www.cheetahminer.com ; Too good to be true boys!

Updates:

• I have created and included a list based on efficiency of all currently and recently available hardware under .07 J/GH
• I have updated MicroBT's best offering to the M20S, as from what I can tell there are no longer any outstanding orders
• I went through and updated pricing for gear based on what manufacturer/distributors are advertising

Right now the only odd listing is Innosilicon. It appears that a lot of the T3 variations have become worse with efficiency and or have performed under spec. I'm going to do a little more research and see what if there is any discussion around the pre-orders for the T3+; which is not an improvement in efficiency.

Oooh, can I get one for pointing out they are sold out? Please?

At steamtyme please list t17

At octomob gave you a merit for pointing it out.

What about the Bitmain's T17? Are those not competitive enough? 

In case anyone is wondering why I haven't added the M20S to the list yet, despite a couple in the wild. To my knowledge Pangolin has the first complete batch of demo units that should have shipped out, and were available for order off the website. That batch did not completely ship out and I'm unsure how many people did or did not receive them. I know that I did not receive mine, but some higher profile members did receive theirs, which can sometimes be problematic.  Secondly the batch was also delayed several weeks.

So until this is fulfilled I'll cautiously hold off on promoting it through this reference thread.

Thanks for the update, they've joined Halong and been moved to the final stop on the list. Anyone who has ordered gear recently can also fill in on what the USD price was I will try and update that in the next week. M20 will probably be the next gear update, they should be arriving to people in 10-14 days ~ better late than never.

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Just a reminder that this thread serves a running reference to the Hardware Available. This is not a general discussion thread, use the links provided in the OP for each miner, or wherever is suitable.

From my sales person at Bitfily, "They are not making any new miners". so RIP Bitfily and hope I don't break another PSU.

I'm sorry to hear that, Zimba. It is a very weird situation. Their chinese website it is still online.
The company I work at, recently (about 7 weeks ago) have completed a huge buy of 500 or more B1+ asic units. The last new I have hearded was the shipment was sent on time and will arrive in only some days (maritime transport). I will keep you informed about that.

I think Bitfily is down for the count, last I tried to buy from them by the time the wire transfer cleared they were out of any and all miners, used A1, B1 et all, they actually went out and found me used M3's to try and make up, their page is down also. I will confirm in a few days when I contact a sales person I know.

I'll add them to the list the same as the other gear once it's confirmed in the wild. I'm expecting what I believe will be branded an M20S ordered as a demo, within the next 2 weeks - maybe. The lead time was about 6 weeks at time of ordering, but may stretch a bit, I've never gone longer than that and couldn't imagine how hard the waiting game would be. They are however one of the few units that don't come with a hard 240 V cap.

Searing - Yeah I've been fortunate to live in an area that leaves me very well positioned for mining. It's tough for some out there, keep looking for opportunities, if your Winters are cold you may want to consider becoming a seasonal miner, only. I see this as a likely end result for a lot of home miners down the road.

ditto....in my area ... I can get the elec utility (Xcel) to pay same for elec as I pay for (12 winter and 13c summer...more or less).

the CATCH is, however, they go by your LAST YEARS electric use and will only buy back at that rate...so if it was $100 w/o, miners and you have the capacity to do $400 a month with miners....sure you can do it for 6 months but then they adust downward..if you miss that goal but never back upwards..once the miners go off (FML).

So, I can't use the 'extra' capacity of what I use for miners (not selling back to Xcel)  when they go defunct... because even with say a year lag between decent equipment..in 6 months they will adjust downward.

So hell, that sucked.

So back to the equipment side of this post, before it gets deleted for off-topic (where I'm going with this) as a 'equip hedge" (with no real decent equipment miner wise in the next year) a person could use some BTC on a price pump as a hedge against it going down and get a solar setup (my case 9KW is 20k after rebates supposedly)

BUT you'd have to have some miner equipment in place, with a year of electrick use, to justify to Xcel your use of electric at that rate (frigging chicken and egg miner paradox)

The point of this post, you STILL have to find miner equipment that makes sense to mine at say 12-13c kWh and just use that direct to mining...at the point this equipment (next to go around say 2020 equip and beyond) that equip becomes obsolete you could MAYBE stop mining after that point and sell back to the electric utility at the higher use rate for maybe 6-9 months and if lucky the usual winter heat benefit...then they adjust downward and you have an overcapacity solar arrangement that you can't put back till new miners become possible as a hedge.

So I'm still stuck...I can get solar as a 'hedge' in case BTC corrects too much this year and bleed some off...If BTC pumps at least I'd have solar..but that only works IF there is less then dubious equipment I can mine with in 2020 in the basement.

Thus after all that (except for bleeding some BTC off and getting solar out of the deal) I am right back where I started and need equipment that would work in 2020 ..run it for a year or so ..and then maybe, kinda could justify solar.

Sucks that they can regulate how much they will buy back on use...then you can't adjust up after the fact..but they can review in 6 months and adjust downward when the use goes away.

Anyway, I think this is on topic. I thought maybe it was an angle...maybe in some other state...In Minnesota and Xcel I can't give them more electric back from miners..(maybe 6 months) after the miners go to bricks till the next batch of miners come out, say a year later...so the only way solar is any use in my case would be if we have a bubble again and I simply want to buy some solar as a hedge on a drop in price for giggles.....and there is no equipment around I can get instead.

So that was a long way around to find 1) no equipment worth getting in the near future and 2) solar does not give me a working around for this and so back at 1) again...no equipment worth getting in the near future.

Hopefully, someone in another state can tell they don't have this cluster and can get around such.

I thought it was a way (kinda is I guess) to get solar this year and then get miner equipment next year with solar in place. Seems I need the equipment first in both cases and Xcel has all the angles on Solar.

FML

brad

Pricing is fine imo, as nothing else is/will competing with the M20 but yes too long of lead time.

That is one distributor, the other is Pangolinminer. I've used Pango many times for purchasing the M10's. Very good company but ja that long of a lead time for the whatsminers sux big time.

er catch is the 'supposed' out the door is 1st week in August 2019 and the prices suck for that far in the future IMHO.

here is the link.

judge for yourself.

https://whatsminer.net/shop/

NOTE: I AM ASSUMING THE LINK ABOVE IS THE LEGIT SITE. SO BEWARE. DO YOUR RESEARCH.

Micro BT is announcing 4 Whatsminers Sunday the 19th, M20, M20S, M21 and M21S.

May want to watch for that for competitive hardware, I posted their announcement but was promptly deleted for unknown reasons.

thanks found it after the fact also.

Actually the GekkoScience R606 is here on the forum, not some off site sales web page: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gekkoscience-terminus-r606-750gh-up-to-1th-quiet-miner-now-shipping-5131245.

The Gekkoscience pods and sticks are designed for hobby/home use.

Also, AvalonMiners can be configured for a low power use, the 8 series with the lp firmware is a great combination.

I have a A841 mining at 8Ths hash rate with about a 700W power consumption.

Anything available under, say, 500W?

That would be the stock as advertised specs I believe. I did notice some chat about the firmware. I'll read up on it tonight and figure out how to work it in. Most likely it will be an * about the FW and it's efficiency gains. Good catch.

Is the Canaan efficiency FW spec updated from the newest release?

So some big changes. Bitmain has reclaimed the top spot in efficiency, with the S17. I used their normal numbers for the S17 Pro as advertised.

Halong has been removed from the main list and moved to the bottom as they areno longer operational. Bitfily, Bitfury and Ebang are now in a previously competitive category until they release new hardware.

Just a reminder this isn't meant to be a general discussion/speculation thread to compare all gear or seek advice.

Please move further discussion to a new topic in mining speculation or either miners respective discussion thread.

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Thanks for letting me know bitfily is still operating, they are still however falling behind like many companies at the moment; with nothing new announced.


Edit: March 29 - Added A10 discussion thread for Canaan

Be warned that eBit's eBang miners have a horrible reputation for breaking along with horrible customer support. Scan this section and the Support section for the threads discussing them.

yeah..this is how this stuff rolls these days I guess..I can find no 'angle' of any kind, (even w/o the shipping and tariff/import fees of 27.6% that are on now)

discouraging

brad

Ok. That's less power efficient than a lp firmware a841 or s9. 

Just go here:

https://www.bitfily.io/

Not sure what they say but efficiency is like 105 Watts per TH, I will update my review of it if I can find it

Cool.

Any tips for getting hands on one?

They are still operating, I am in the middle of a warranty with them which I will post on the B1+ review.

In 'reality' in the USA...most of it anyway...will go back to 'Summer Electric Rates) or from what I can tell in most places...that is a 33% increase in electric costs for I think it is 5 months.

Thus sometime around May 15th when this flips.....we probably (or any crypto) needs a 33% price pump or it is gonna get beyond ugly out there.

just pointing this out...you could have "no equipment" on your list that 'makes sense to buy anyway...and this is not talking about the 27.6% fees with tariff and import fees.

sheesh, what a 'rekt' cluster****.

brad

Well at the end of the month I believe I will remove Halong all together, as they are out of business. The others I will keep on until maybe the end of next month. With all this gear between .048 and .065 J/GH , there are really only going to be 3 proven distributors of Competitive Hardware.  Bitmain, Innosilicon, and MicroBT.

I believe I will move companies like Bitfily, Bitfury, Canaan, and Ebang to the bottom of the post under a horizontal line. Naming them as previously competitive hardware just to show the most recent changes. I believe most of the companies to still be in business. Bitfily hasn't updated their site in a long time so I'm not sure of their status at the moment.

Canaan is jut struggling to be competitive, gear has still been well made.

Halong seems to be gone.

Bitfury  is very hard to buy their gear.

I am not sure what will happen with Avalon  since the A921 was a real bomb.
I like working with them I hope they make an A941  that works well.

Innosilicon has been given top spot in efficiency. They are noted as having several batches. The real world tests didn't match their specs 100%, but it is a minute sample size and all numbers quoted are Manufacturer advertised numbers.

I am also considering removing some of the listed Hardware:

Halong - If I'm not mistaken this company is no longer operating or producing Hardware.
Bitfury - I'm on the fence without knowing if the Tardis ever shipped out to anyone. If not there last miner is well outside competitive.

As always I'm open to input.

I keep the Op up to date pretty regular. Right now the ones to watch are Bitmain, Innosilicon, and MicroBT (Whatsminer). Some have good hardware available now some have a miner being speculated about, most have links to the info.

If you can't find something let me know.

Anything on the 'horizon'? (for those of us that don't have paid for solar in place..yeah..stink eye at philipma1957....)

figured almost better odds 'gathering moonbeams tonite' but figured I'd ask

brad

I hope to get a watts number on the T3 in the next week or so.
He told me he was shipping it from his house (no meters) to hosting with a meter.

Update today-

Added the M20 as a discussion thread for MicroBT
Change Innosilicon's product to the T3 - and updated stats. I made mention that it is now the most efficient but will make the change once we see that it is at or near spec for power draw.

As always if you see an error or have something for me to add let me know.

I've gone through and updated all the current hardware listings. This was to account for any changes in Price, MOQ, Specs of the unit.

I am also considering removing Halong Mining as I believe they are out of business and will no longer be producing hardware.

Let me know if I missed anything.

Edit: I messed up, I was planning on logging the before and after as I made a lot of updates. I'll try and do that in the future in case anyone wants to compare.

That's what the S15 I was referencing was using. The 12/5 version

so at 1620/28000 it is 57 watts a th

the m10 is 2400/34000 or 70 watts a th

 the s15 cost  1204 plus shipping and maybe taxes
the m10 cost  1022 plus shipping and maybe taxes

edge to s15

anyone  try new firmware for t15 and or s15?

Yes thank you.
Got a little busy but I will update the list accordingly.

For now looks like Bitmain take #1 and #2 spots, with the T 15 low power mode

Sent this to you over PM also

https://imgur.com/a/Detmq3h

My biggest issue is the locked down firmware that doesn't allow SSH. If you'd like to know before  I get the pictures, LPM is around 900 watts @ ~16V input, controller pulls 12V and hashrate is about 18Th/s. Without LPM it pulls around 1620w @ between 18-20V with the controller pulling 12V and a hashrate between 27 and 29th/s, most of the time it's in the 28TH range.

List has been updated to include the T15 as Bitmains current product and the most efficient advertised gear @.06 J/GH using their Low Power mode.

I will update with the S15 once delivered and on spec.

I have not contacted MicroBT, Must have been an oversight on my part as I thought I had emailed all/most companies outside Bitmain regarding their speculated hardware.

Have you had any luck reaching them; or getting information through their distributors? I only ask as I believe you were carrying/importing their products and figured you may have more info via salespersons.

I will at this time try reaching out to them. If I receive info I will update the OP, but post the information in the discussion threads.

Edit:

I have updated the Bitmain section of speculation for the S15 and T15. They are going to be released soon, and once someone has one and the numbers are close or on spec I will update their current listing, that goes on sale within 12 hours.

Feel free to let me know - This will help with future listings of hardware

1) If I should just "trust" that Bitmain will deliver this gear at spec and update their current hardware.
2) Wait until it's been in the wild, as this may just be a pre-order - this is my current plan.
3) Any other suggestions/criticisms of the thread to date.

Has anyone tried to contact microbt? the email on their site get returned.

Not sure you will need to inquire with the company directly or follow the link to the discussion thread and ask there.

Again this thread isn't meant to discuss the various hardware just to document them and help keep details up to date.

That is why there are links where available for reviews and discussion.

I can see their promotion (but 10 get 3 free). If you order 10 are they automatically shipping 3 or you should send a note, email or something? And are they sending those 3 as gifts or custom applies to them also?

Nope.

Go and ask them.

After seeing photos of the miner and hashrate, posted in the linked discussion thread they have been added.

I have also Added whether or not the miners require an Asic Boost supported Pool. If you see an error please let me know, as this information can be difficult to find at times.

yeah 49th at 5400 watts = no good  for many ,but it will work on a 30 amp 240 volt circuit.  

you need 2-4 cent power to consider having it.

although I see sideways movement in difficulty for a few months.  maybe it works for a six cent miner

I don't know I missed it. Looks their larger unit is less efficient? The b1+ looks decent, pricing is ok. We'll probably list this after reaching out to Bitfily. 

There is a discussion thread regarding this miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46915602

That link will direct you to a post of mine within the thread, feel free to post in that thread. Once enough validating information has been collected I'll add this company and hardware.

Edited: If you can post screenshots of the status page and the logs to review that would be great. So far we haven't seen this, or packaging. Could maybe do with some pics from the sides as well to get a good picture of the total miner.

Pictures, videos?

Bitfily has delivered their Snow Panther B1+, I have 2 running for a couple of days, they are performing as advertised so far.
https://www.bitfily.io/

Bitfury has been added. It's tough to find anything on their gear out in the wild but there are some videos out there. A lot of the info available does seem to be in russian, but I have sent a request for information from them regarding the Tardis. Mostly with expected shipdates and what not, this way once it's proven real somewhere it can take the current hardware slot.


I read the same and going back through the discussion threads on the forum, it had an expected shipdate in October. So with them still being a new company having never produced hadware to consumers I'm holding off.

If they keep to their commitments and ship something out at any point they will be placed on the list for sure. Again they have been sent a request for information, we'll see if they get back to me.

As per GMO website, i.e. https://gmominer.z.com/en/

GMO miner B3 is sold out temporarily due to the very high demand. Please kindly wait until we restart selling.
For those who wish to order, please contact us via the Inquiry Form below the FAQ page.
We will be in touch with you once we restart selling.

So, I guess, GMO product has already been materialized. I could not understand anything from http://triple-1.com/ though.

Their previous gen. miner is called Bitfury B8.

There is an old product page here: https://bitfury.com/hardware/server

Specs https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitfury/b8

It uses this 16nm chip https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/16-nm-asic-datasheet-2018-04-002.pdf

The BlockBox AC actually consists of 176 pieces of these Bitfury B8 miners. https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/blockboxac-brochure-2018-04-002-layouts.compressed.pdf

You're right Hagss.

Sorry for the confusion, I may just have to stop replying from mobile for some threads.

So in keeping with the theme of having hardware currently out or having been delivered  that is recently competitive, I need to research their panther or B3 snowleopard or b8 I think it was called. If I can't find some hard facts on that miner having been sold, then they only have a spec sheet for unreleased hardware the "tardis".

When I was starting to think about this thread I believe they only had the shipping container build up on their website so they were passed over.

That being said.  I am looking into the tardis for details and if anyone can send something regarding their last miner that was sold, I will update OP accordingly.

I will probably also ad in a metric for units that have a MOQ.

As always I am open to suggestions and input. If someone feels I am leaving out a key piece if information we can discuss adding it.

I thought that by 'competitive' you mean the current gen. / top efficiency hardware?

Yeah I was doing some research on Bitfury last night, but need to do more.  I have a post somewhere a fee months back about someone looking into the snow leopard, and I did read up on the tardis.

Last I checked though they had a MOQ of 100 units. Here's where it becomes opinion and I'll defer to the community.

Is a company that has a MOQ of 100 really competitive? I'm going to keep digging tonight, but if anyone can point me to a distributor or something where anyone can pick them up thag would be great

If not I will add them at the bottom, under a industrial title or something of the sorts.

Still looking into GMO and triple 1 waiting for a product to materialize.

Keep the info coming people I appreciate the assistance in keeping this list up to date.

Edit: MOQ may have changed, if I can find some hard facts that the panther had been delivered out to customers I'll add them with the tardis being speculation. They are tough, as I recall they didn't sell to the global public for many years and have only recently started doing this again.

Yep, Bitfury is legit for sure.

I think their most power efficient version of the new Tardis miner could make sense for big scale miners.

https://bitfury.com/hardware/bitfury-tardis
https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/bitfury-b9-tardis-datasheet.pdf

How about Bitfury stuff?

Bitfury Tardis miner, 6.3 KW. The Bitfury Tardis miner is offered with different configuration options:

5 hashboards, 66TH/s, 6,3KW – 95 mJ/GH, $55 per TH/s
6 hashboards, 71TH/s, 6,3KW -  88 mJ/GH, $58 per TH/s
7 hashboards, 75TH/s, 6,3KW -  84 mJ/GH, $61 per TH/s
8 hashboards, 78TH/s, 6,3KW -  80 mJ/GH, $65 per TH/s
Each hashboard contains 128 Bitfury Clarke chips.

Have either of them put miners in the hands of customers yet? I thought GMO was close as in this month, but that they were still preorder. 

I am interested in triple-1 but same as above I didn't think they had delivered a miner yet.

Maybe in an effort of fairness for current market sales I will add a general speculation section at the bottom for companies who have yet to deliver a miner but have announced competitive hardware.

Two lesser ones are

GMO from Japan
Triple-1 from Japan

Yes MyRig, I would consider them worthy to list in referance to the T1.

Also MicroBT website correct? No real links and a bunch of wechat qc's? Contact email comes back undeliverable.

I have updated the OP.

@Thanks again Haggs, it wasn't until I re-read your review that I found where I missed the information for Whatsminer.

@Og, I added in a quick cost/TH. I'll get right on that super smart system, give me a year longer than the new forum software.


I completely forgot about Myrig. Updated, not sure how many they still have.

I think going forward, once hardware is only available on the secondary market I will remove all pricing data. Not the situation here but may be shortly.

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Appreciate all the input. Honestly I had to do this because I found myself getting lost in what has or hasn't launched. Feel free to let me know anytime there is anything you feel is lacking or would make a good addition/update.

Do you mean that Halong or MyRig is still selling T1 units?

Could you elaborate?

On mobile.

Thanks for the updated info. I'll update the whatsminer stuff this evening. I did have a tough time sorting through their chain. Missed something I guess.

I'll add a price per TH that's  no issue. With this being a global market. My idea is just keeping it basic based on from manufacturer. People can figure out the extra based on their situation, based on the links they follow.

I'll maintain the thread to within a few days, as best I can.

Can you elaborate on the T1's I just went by their webpage.

In that case I demand he immediately put together an interface where I can put in my information and it will automatically tell me the best hardware for the buck.  Kidding. 

@ og more complex the price per th.

you have price per th to usa due to 27.6% tax
you have price per th to europe due to 18% tax  I know that varies
you have price per th to rest of world maybe with 0% tax.

you have  time to wait on gear
you have coupons
you have shipping cost
you have btc conversion rates

you have  watts per th.

I would love to see a price per TH metric added.  

Great article, but here are some comments:

Whatsminer is wrong.

Wrong company name. Wrong web address.

The right information is:

MicroBT
http://www.microbt.com/

Whatsminer.net and Pangolinminer.com are distributors for the Whatsminer hardware.

Cool thread. How often you think you'll maintain?

Also, T1's are still accessible.

Considering there are a lot of hats in the ring these days; I thought a comprehensive list was in order. Below you will find hardware listed by manufacturer. I'm going to try and limit it to competitive hardware, but feel free to suggest something else be added if you feel the list falls short.

The purpose of this thread is not for discussion; I will link all current discussion topics and available forum reviews.

Pricing and specs taken from manufacturer websites. For hardware not sold directly by the manufacturer you will see a "Where to purchase" link to their distributor. See reviews and discussion threads for real world tests. Know that all miners have a variance in power consumption and hashrate depending on conditions, these are noted in the discussion/review threads or Manufacturer websites.

Current Leader in Advertised Efficiency = Bitmain S17 Pro  .0395 J/GH                                                   AB = Asic Boost


                                                             1. Bitmain - S17 Pro    56 TH @  .0395 J/GH
                                                             2. Bitmain - S17+       67 TH @  .04     J/GH                                          
                                                             3. Innosilicon - T3       43 TH @  .048   J/GH                                                                                                        
                                                             3. MicroBT - M20S       68 TH @  .048   J/GH    * M20 @48, M20S @62/65 TH models also available at this efficiency
                                                             5. Bitmain - T17          40 TH @  .055   J/GH    * "+" model also available same efficiency @ 55TH                                                                                      
                                                             6. Canaan - A1041      31 TH @  .056   J/GH                                                                                                        
                                                             7. MicroBT - M21S       56 TH @  .060   J/GH    * M20 @ 28TH also available at this efficiency    
                                                             8. Canaan - A1047      37 TH  @ .0625  J/GH                      
                                                             9. MicroBT - M10         31 TH @  .065   J/GH          

*Miners in red draw 3KW+                                                                                              



Bitmain

S17 Pro - Normal mode, Low power and Turbo also available. * Requires 2 Power cables per unit

Efficiency ~.0395 J/GH              Hashrate = 53 TH/S               Power Consumption = 2094 W                  Cost/TH = 26.43 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = No                
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1401 USD                        

Discussion Thread           Review Post until a review has been done

Hardware speculation: 5nm chips in 2020, no miners announced as of yet

Canaan

Current Miner - Avalon 1041 16nm - Turbo mode available  * similar efficiency acheived by the 1066 model review here

Efficiency ~.0625 J/GH               Hashrate = 37 TH/S                 Power Consumption = 2380 W                   Cost/TH = 27.83 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1030 USD  - This will vary as Canaan uses distributors for small batch purchases; as well as ship dates                          ** PSU included

Discussion Thread            Review

Hardware Speculation: Canaan Avalon 11xx series

Innosilicon

Current Miner - T3        * There are several batches of this miner confirm specs before ordering. There is an efficiency mode available.          

Efficiency ~.048 J/GH                 Hashrate = 43 TH/S                Power Consumption = 2100 W                     Cost/TH = 48.83 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 2100 USD                          ** PSU included

Discussion thread             Review

Hardware Speculation: T3+ - 57TH @ 3300W slightly improved advertised efficiency

MicroBT

Current Miner - Whatsminer M20S 12nm  - Same efficiency available @ 62/65 TH, or M20 @ 45 TH

Efficiency ~.048 J/GH               Hashrate = 68 TH/S                  Power Consumption = 3260 W                     Cost/TH = 36.91 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees =  2510 USD (January pre-order)                         ** PSU included - Price is from Pangolinminer

Discussion Thread             Review
Where to purchase: https://whatsminer.net/ , https://pangolinminer.com

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Previously Competitive hardware - If anything new is produced will update the list accordingly.

Bitfury

The B8 aka. Snowleopard A1 16nm(Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.131 J/GH              Hashrate = 50 TH/S                 Power Consumption = 6400W                   Cost/TH = xxx                           Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost = Unavailable sold out

Currently no review or discussion threads.
Hardware Speculation: The Tardis has been announced @ .079 J/GH, and is being discussed here. *Most efficient option referenced

Ebang

Current Miner - E10  10nm(Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.09  J/GH                   Hashrate = 18 TH/S              Power Consumption = 1650 W                   Cost/TH = xxx                           Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost = Unavailable Sold Out

Discussion thread - No review done

Hardware Speculation: They have announced their E11 series. Here is a discussion thread.

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No longer in business

Bitfily

B1+ Snow Panther 10nm - MOQ 5 Units

Efficiency ~.086 J/GH                     Hashrate = 24.5 TH/S              Power Consumption = 2100W                   Cost/TH = 23.67 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost = 580 USD (Current Sale Price)

Discussion Thread              There is no review at this time.
Hardware Speculation: None at this time

Halong Mining

Current Miner - Dragonmint T1 (Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.092 J/GH                   Hashrate = 16 TH/S              Power Consumption = 1480 W                   Cost/TH = 74.93 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1199 USD

Discussion                           Review
Where to purchase: https://myrig.com/