Topic: CYRious Technologies - CYR Jackhammer $599 / 1.4TH/s - page 8. (Read 9848 times)

I'd like to order 10 of these.

Please post the BTC address to send to.  

Seriouscoin, get lost, look at your post history (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/seriouscoin-54366) hundreds and hundreds of posts nothing more than you being a troll and frankly an asshat.




I have to say, i think you are the biggest POS on this forum i have ever seen and the writing is on the wall. so beyond just pointing out the obvious above. i am done with you now.

What a piece of work there.....

phonie x's mate aussie nobody.. 'payonix pete' ala payonix fame among others

theyre 'really' close mates so expect attitude.

he hasnt 'turned coat' like phonie is trying to do as of late.

both vermin, love the scam life

Oh you want legitimate question? let me play with you little piece of shit.

Who are your teams? list them with their real name and title. Also give me a real physical location of your "company" so i can come to kick your fcking little ass.

Ok, i can sum this up quite quickly,

1: we will not force people into escrow fees if they do not want to use escrow
2: You and the other 3 idiots are the only ones still screaming scam. But yep they were profitable today.
3: by all means, keep going then. I find you amusing.
4: Boy your smart. Melbourn IT is a domain Registrar. one of the largest on the planet. based in Australia. Do you know how to interpret WHO.is info? Oh wait your a genius.
5: I got a better one, why dont you go take a photo and show there is not a building at 19 California street in silicone valley your the one making aqusations
6: Yahoo is a re-seller of domains for Melbourn IT. surprise their phone number is listed.

7, 8, 9, & 10

I was trying to remain respectful but you make it hard, so let me just end with, you are an ABSOLUTE idiot, and you have ZERO idea what you are babbling about. You have NOTHING what so ever besides accusations which are as useful as nipples on a bull. If your aim was to show how much you lack in intelligence, you have succeeded i dont care how many posts you have so take it to the troll thread where you belong.

Now, back to the legitimate questions and business.

Thank you Tovandnok,

I will try my best to explain it as well as possible, Firstly, the highest expense of manufacturing your own ASIC hardware are the NRE's (non recurring engineering expenses). When a company runs a small production run < 5,000 units they have to spread those expenses across their production run a good example was the hashfast babyjet, less than 1,000 made & very expensive hardware. So by designing a long haul large production run machine (15,000 in just the first batch ) the NRE cost absorbed per unit is less than $5 were most companies exceed $1,000 per unit on their NRE absorption.

Second, most companies make claims ( like delivery dates ) that they know 100% for sure when they make them they cannot meet. They do this to increase sales but it also comes with a cost of legal fees, knowing these fees are coming, many manufacturers build them into the cost of each machine increasing the CPU ( cost per unit )

Next, several companies rely solely on pre-orders to fund 100% of development, and have to squeeze profit out of hype and production. Having to rely on pre-orders for development they cannot accept escrow in most cases. Which means they have to spend fortunes in advertising, PR, and all that jazz. Also built into the cost of each machine.

Lastly, YES, most companies have HUGE margins built into their hardware, not only in cash profit, but in mining with hardware you paid for, some of them (BFL) for over a month.

CYR employees its own Engineers some of which are interns which lowers NRE cost, also with the large production numbers 15,000 units per batch across dozens of batches the cost gets broken down to next to nothing per unit. CYR funded its own development and is only doing pre-orders to slightly offset the first production batch as initial asic samples ran 1.8 Million over budget due to a core issue. Meaning we can accept escrow on about 70% of our pre-orders, removing the need for the over developed website, hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, and all the fancy show and glow that the other companies need to do as without doing escrow they need to convince you they are legit before you buy. And lastly CYR is very very very ahead of schedule for their late July 2014 shipping date, so they do not need to figure legal costs into the cost per unit.

I hope that answers your question, and thank you for asking.

OP, i wish you a horrible death. What a fcking disgrace of humanity.

Yes.


So your scam was profitable today.


Oh, we're just getting started.


Ah, so you're an Australian company?


No, wait, you're based in downtown SF. Strange, I don't remember a building at 19 California St. Why don't you post a photo of your building?


That's a Yahoo Customer Service phone line. Now Yahoo is building bitcoin miners?


And your server is hosted in Utah.

So where is your company? You do have a real company don't you?

So much for protecting identies....way to give out possible personal info.... The info may be publically obtainable,but that should have been done in a PM to him 

I'll be watching & reading to see how your ASIC's develop.Good luck!!

Would you feel safer if it was ESCROW ONLY ? 90% of the orders from tonight went through escrow. i didnt think it needed to be spelled out in crayon. Legit or otherwise, YOUR AN IDIOT IF YOU DONT USE ESCROW IF ITS OFFERED. Look at BFL, if people would have / could have used escrow, they would have not lost nearly as much as they did.

+1 for being such a genius Syke, I'm so glad to see there are so many super intelligent people on this forum. You guys should be proud of yourselves...... Keep it to the troll thread....

Now, back to business.

Bingo. There's how they profit from this scam. They're hoping that some people will see the "escrow available" and go ahead and order and pay directly.

My aplogies, i forgot about your question, i didnt mean to imply it wasnt valid, only that PII such as name, address, phone number is VERY PUBLIC information to anyone with a brain. I would be willing to take a shot at your name being Myles Wagner, and that you work the Miter saw at TrueWood. that you live in Lineville Alabama. I could be wrong, but its not likley. I'm not trying to put you off or anything, only stating my thoughts on what PII is really sensitive and what is not.

But yes, you had a valid question and i appreciate that.

I believe I asked a very valid question regarding SSL... (which you sort of acknowledged passing it off as a non-issue in your opinion)

I don't care if no CC info is being passed on.. regardless.. my PII (personally identifiable information / IE: address, etc) shouldn't be passed without some sort of security...  huge red flag.

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

Where are you located?

Nope thats not my Reddit thread, although i do have one which is proving to be the most entertaining of the night thus far.



I'm not the web guy, but i am sure they will have it all worked out over the next few weeks, not near fast enough for the superhuman members of bitcointalk.org, but i'm sure the rest of the real bitcoin society will be content.


There are photos on the website, quite a few actually, i just linked to their slideshow on facebook because its the only slideshow i have access to. As for moving the thread, sure why not, i get paid to answer what questions i can and filter through the troll blather to find legitimate questions and make sure they get in touch with the right people, again for those who missed it in the previous post, this IS NOT A SALES THREAD, henceforth why it is not in the marketplace section. This is more a Q&A thread, with a separate trolling thread for sheer entertainment value.


as for building credibility, again not my job, The heatsink and fan, PSU, and concept art, sure easy to get / fake / steal if one wanted to, but they have pictures of their actual sample case on their website which would have cost a small fortune to have made just to "scam" 1 or 2 people if that was the intent. Its 500% more than the overnight scam sensations have been able to produce when they pop up on this and other forums. So hows about we pipe down with the nonsense and keep it to honest and legit questions so i can assist the people who really have good questions and keep the dumb stuff to the trolling thread. Now that parts are ordered, things are arriving, and a website is under development i am sure over the next week tops the company will handle its only legitimacy issues on its own. In todays meeting there were talks of having a working prototype done in a week to a week and a half and available for live streaming from the shop floor. So save it until then, or dont order until then.

The one thing that 99% of you missed is that they agreed to take escrow through a legit organisation who themselves has good history on this and other forums. Meaning if you have legitimacy issues, you have a way to protect yourself. I dont get paid to sell, and most of you, well thats giving a little too much credit, some of you are smart enough to figure it out. If it were me personally, i WOULDNT order without using escrow myself. People who dont use escrow are asking to get ripped off in most cases, not saying this is one of them, just that escrow was designed for that purpose.

There is no contact link, huh?

I would imagine so as the "photos" are kept on a photo bucket account instead of within the actual site/domain

* seems like we have a lot of "companies/operations" sprouting up again.. perhaps it would be wise to break this forum into the "Pre-order/announcement hardware" with all the proper warning and red flag alerts...  and then a "current/shipping now hardware"... just seems like a lot of "fake" clutter

Their website seems realy fishy overall. It migh be built on a template.

Someone posted the link to the website on reddit, (Propably OP here) http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24k3rg/cyr_announces_14ths_for_599/

There is a whois as a comment. Can't find more info currently. OP needs to do a better job if he wants to gain the community's trust.