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January 29, 2017, 11:10:21 AM
Everyone who has studied politics knows damn well what “The Left” means, (except for the part where they pretend that National Soc‍ialism isn’t on the left). It is a coalition of “victim groups” and their alleged protectors, who seek greater government control to redress the alleged historical harm done to those groups and punish the “oppressors” thereof.

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It’s actually worse than that. The Gramscian infection consumes worthy causes, chews them up and remakes them in its own pro-totalitarian image...

For a worthy cause in the end stage of Gramscian consumption, consider the U.S. antiwar movement. It is right that we should have a vocal, principled domestic constituency against unnecessary military action. But we have no such thing.

Instead, we have a kind of sock puppet that becomes dead silent when a Communist-indoctrinated President is in the White House, raising not so much a peep at drone-strikes a go-go or multiple failed interventions in places like Libya, or at boots on the ground right now in Iraq.

Wars are protested only when doing so serves the purposes of the Gramscian long march. This isn’t even hidden well any more: scratch an “anti-war” demonstration and you find a Stalinist political group like International ANSWER at the bottom of it. And the mainstream media doesn’t care about this – infected themselves, they see no enemy to the left, ever.


This is very poignant example of how the Gramscian infection is so pervasive...

Humans lack immunity to the Gramscian virus because they all want more power than they really have, so they live vicariously via the victimization causes of the collective.

A socialist from the Netherlands seems to agree with my theory:

"Every political movement claims they are under attack from the evil others. That is not a prerogative of “The Left”. Just read Bannon and the KKK.

The Left and Right are also struggles over the spoils of the economy. You seem to have a fairly simple idea about how these spoils should be divided.

His perspective is framing as a righteous struggle as if the economy belongs to the collective and not to the owners of things, but my theory is framing it as a self-destructive theft and lust.

The minanarchist perspective is that the collective has no (or very minimal) rights. Whereas, the Left and Right can both be statist (Left much more so) wanting to leverage the power of the collective. Any way, I agree it is a competition and a war between competing strategies.

My theory is emphasizing the power lust of humans which leads to this Iron Law of Political Economics:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984
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January 29, 2017, 10:21:47 AM
Can you point to a paper that corrolates high iq with high testosterone?

Im wondering because SEA besides ashkenazi jews have in average an iq that atleast is one or two standard deviations higher then all other ethnicities.
And their testosterone level is way lower then any other group.
(E.g. blacks highest testosterone level lowest avg iq)

I have the impression that one of the traits corrolated to high iq is low testoterone levels.

I wrote that testosterone is correlated with higher spread (i.e. higher standard deviation) of IQ, which is not a necessarily a higher average IQ. Testosterone is associated with higher risk taking and higher variance.

I did not write higher testosterone, rather just testosterone. I was referring to distinction between genders.

As for higher comparative testosterone amongst the males of different racial groups, I wouldn't be surprised if very high testosterone is associated with lower IQ, because it would seem to me this excess physicality and violence is driven by a society in which many men are impregnating the woman at the same time, i.e. a very primitive society that is not breeding for IQ.

I was also thinking about that, how excess testosterone can be counter productive to mental work. I know that when I am healthy, one of my problems is that my testosterone is so high that I find it difficult to sit still and do mental work until I first go exhaust myself in sports. And if I skip my sports for more than a day or two, I become very aggressively moody and could easily get into a fight. I am ~52 and ill, yet my testosterone was measured to be 23 out of 25. So yeah, testosterone has its downsides.

It is interesting that perhaps by breeding for higher IQ, this may breed out too much testosterone which perhaps may lead to Frankenstein effeminate outcomes? Isn't it interesting how there is no equilibrium or homeostasis point, but a range of possibilities. Yup sounds like nature.

Watch how the black people react to these racial jokes (testosterone?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzgoYDHydBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3eDtCZ4t8&t=25s

I have noticed that black women on average have much more lean muscular shoulders than many white women. I have seen some strong (especially nordic) white women though.

Today a dark-skinned Indian guy (taller than me) tried to walk directly at me pretending he didn't see me and as he got closer I realized what he was doing was trying to act tough and I was watching his face for him to make eye contact but he purposefully didn't and so at the last moment I decided not to avoid running into him and he at the very last moment made an evasive maneuver and then I turned around ready to make eye contact and fight. But he just kept on going ignoring me. This is an example of what you see in those videos. Very high testosterone is sometimes difficult to control. I am sick and taking very strong medicines so I was surprised that happened. I didn't really like it, because the last thing I need is to be getting into fights. But I've noticed the arrogance of the Indian nationals here is starting to get to me. So I better make sure I avoid them.

Here in the Philippines if you act arrogant, especially not in a place guarded by security guards, you are risking someone attacking you with a machete, especially here in Mindanao. I would like to think of myself as a more civilized person, yet I noticed I had that reaction. Perhaps it is my Cherokee native blood?

I wrote this:

...is inherited from the primitive, post-paleozoic, hunter-gatherer time period when mortal danger was omnipresent. Fear stimulates a fight-or-flight adrenaline spike in response to extreme stress. Adrenaline rushes are thrilling and addictive, especially when the threat is low-grade, not thoroughly exhausting, and thus repeatable because it only exists in the imagination. Adrenaline (plus cortisol) shuts down rational thought in the pre-frontal cortex. Production of the steriod cortisol spikes to redistribute more energy to the muscles and nerves, depleting energy from the immune system, digestion, and toxic waste processing necessary to maintain health.
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January 29, 2017, 01:40:05 AM
Can you point to a paper that corrolates high iq with high testosterone?

Im wondering because SEA besides ashkenazi jews have in average an iq that atleast is one or two standard deviations higher then all other ethnicities.
And their testosterone level is way lower then any other group.
(E.g. blacks highest testosterone level lowest avg iq)

I have the impression that one of the traits corrolated to high iq is low testoterone levels.
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January 28, 2017, 04:59:54 PM
...you have read Dyson and understand that the darwinian interlude is ending making genetic success ultimately meaningless.

Disagree. The genetic competition between species is much too slow to compete with the cultural evolution within the human species, but since humans can control their genetics then genetic advantages can possibly interplay with a cultural advantage. Specifically I am thinking about engineering such a culture, where the men will select for genetics both for the women brought into the culture and donated sperm (not just their own).

Dyson is pointing out that the genetic interplay with culture could get much more interesting. You are playing with an outdated tool religion. Give men the capacity to understand how they can maximally compete with a multi-generational strategy that is decentralized and nearly invisible (impossible to detect and defeat).

I am competitive. I want to compete. Especially against the socialists. What always disappointed me about the prospect of offspring is they were making me less competitive and not more so. I think there may be a solution. But it is complex and I am old. So I may punt. Yet I am open sourcing the ideas.

...in the hopes of cultural supremacy, yet with time and progress cultures will blur and merge.

If cultures blur and merge, then Dyson is incorrect. Instead we should see a proliferation of competition between cultures now. Technology now enables cultures to compete in different ways which weren't possible in the past.

Thus you have made a final stand upon the fortress of masculinity.

For that to be true, competition must also die, which is impossible.

Testosterone is associated with risk taking, wider distribution of IQ, strategy+sacrifice instead of complacency, etc..

Worship of nature is a glass wall a ideology without friction.

You've got that backwards. Your philosophy of bringing everything into an equality and fairness total ordering that is a static which allows friction to not exist (thus your desire can never exist unless we no longer exist, as the future and past would need to collapse into undifferentiated). Inequality and partial orders (competition in a free market) are necessary to have a differentiated past and future, i.e. the irreversibility of thermodynamics.
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January 28, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
Everyone who has studied politics knows damn well what “The Left” means, (except for the part where they pretend that National Soc‍ialism isn’t on the left). It is a coalition of “victim groups” and their alleged protectors, who seek greater government control to redress the alleged historical harm done to those groups and punish the “oppressors” thereof.

...

It’s actually worse than that. The Gramscian infection consumes worthy causes, chews them up and remakes them in its own pro-totalitarian image...

For a worthy cause in the end stage of Gramscian consumption, consider the U.S. antiwar movement. It is right that we should have a vocal, principled domestic constituency against unnecessary military action. But we have no such thing.

Instead, we have a kind of sock puppet that becomes dead silent when a Communist-indoctrinated President is in the White House, raising not so much a peep at drone-strikes a go-go or multiple failed interventions in places like Libya, or at boots on the ground right now in Iraq.

Wars are protested only when doing so serves the purposes of the Gramscian long march. This isn’t even hidden well any more: scratch an “anti-war” demonstration and you find a Stalinist political group like International ANSWER at the bottom of it. And the mainstream media doesn’t care about this – infected themselves, they see no enemy to the left, ever.


This is very poignant example of how the Gramscian infection is so pervasive...

Humans lack immunity to the Gramscian virus because they all want more power than they really have, so they live vicariously via the victimization causes of the collective.

"Man's highest joy is in victory: to conquer one's enemies; to pursue them; to deprive them of their possessions; to make their beloved weep; to ride on their horses; and to embrace their wives and daughters."

Genghis Khan

This is caused by the same lust for power that causes the disease you have. This is why failed collectivists turn to a lust for blood at the their end game collapse.

But whereas, you collectivists only destroy yourselves, Genghis Khan actually united many of his tribes and achieved opening up trade between West and East, thus raising the standard-of-living for many humans (not just his own).

What Genghis did was necessary because of Coasian costs that needed to be overcome.

What apparently drove Genghis to start his crusade was watching all the infighting amongst their tribes and the poverty that resulted.

You have chosen, perhaps by default, to worship nature.

How can one worship reality? Worship implies faith. I don't need faith to tell me reality exists.

The reason you idealist nutcases always destroy your collective selves (over a long enough time horizon) is you lust for power that you don't have, i.e. you lust for the crab bucket mentality to drag other men down (how dare they have more than one wife when you only have one) and have control over the competition for females by restricting weak men (subconsciously it appears you may be actually wanting to raise your status in the society by removing the viability of others). Genghis has real empire building power. You (and I) don't. That probably pisses you off and you want to find an easy way to gain leverage. So you reach out for the collective victimization drug.

What you don't realize is that your philosophy is very Evil, which is the philosophy (morals) you claimed religion would make absolutely differentiated between good and evil.

I have formulated a theory as to perhaps why highly educated men fall to the left. And that is because they are not very masculine and didn't develop their athletics and their streetwise bad boy methodologies in order to compete for the woman's hypergamy. Thus they want to develop some power which is exclusive to their tribe of academic, effeminate "men". They probably also feel that bad body mannerisms are demeaning and beneath their social status. They want to elevate their the faction of society where their credentials and social skills are well developed, but employing the collective to eliminate the other social stratas. I think this theory is very plausible.
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January 28, 2017, 08:13:58 AM
Ultimately my friend our difference is one of religion. You have chosen, perhaps by default, to worship nature.

Worship of nature might work for a lesser mind but you are too intelligent and too questioning for it to serve you well.

You can worship nature in the quest for genetic success, but you have read Dyson and understand that the darwinian interlude is ending making genetic success ultimately meaningless.

You can worship of nature in the hopes of cultural supremacy, yet with time and progress cultures will blur and merge.

Thus you have made a final stand upon the fortress of masculinity. The concept of strength in the face of adversity, victory over defeat, and honor before dishonor.  You will find no solace here.

Strength is useless without leverage, victory cannot be achieved without purpose, and honor is meaningless without law.

Worship of nature is a glass wall a ideology without friction. You will be better off if you choose to reject nature in favor of something better. However, that choice is ultimately up to you.

I have said everything I wish to say on this topic. This will be my final post in this thread.

Enjoy Hell, you sadist loser.
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January 28, 2017, 01:14:26 AM
Ultimately my friend our difference is one of religion. You have chosen, perhaps by default, to worship nature.

Worship of nature might work for a lesser mind but you are too intelligent and too questioning for it to serve you well.

You can worship nature in the quest for genetic success, but you have read Dyson and understand that the darwinian interlude is ending making genetic success ultimately meaningless.

You can worship of nature in the hopes of cultural supremacy, yet with time and progress cultures will blur and merge.

Thus you have made a final stand upon the fortress of masculinity. The concept of strength in the face of adversity, victory over defeat, and honor before dishonor.  You will find no solace here.

Strength is useless without leverage, victory cannot be achieved without purpose, and honor is meaningless without law.

Worship of nature is a glass wall a ideology without friction. You will be better off if you choose to reject nature in favor of something better. However, that choice is ultimately up to you.

I have said everything I wish to say on this topic. This will be my final post in this thread.
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January 28, 2017, 12:36:58 AM
Big Joe is a man.

Real men are hungry for the truth.


We have the potential for so much more.

So go do it. And leave the men out of your idealistic gulag. Otherwise, we will have to defend ourselves.
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January 27, 2017, 10:35:54 PM

There are no victims in nature. Only winners and losers.

Men understand this.

Yes I know this "wisdom" I have heard it from the most "successful" man in history.

"Man's highest joy is in victory: to conquer one's enemies; to pursue them; to deprive them of their possessions; to make their beloved weep; to ride on their horses; and to embrace their wives and daughters."

Genghis Khan


I reject this "highest joy" and the worship of nature. We have the potential for so much more.
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January 27, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
CoinCube thinks SOME women are victims who need protection from the State and that religion can fix it because men are weak and must fear God so they don't abuse women...


CoinCube also thinks SOME men are victims who need protection from the State and that religion can fix it because women are weak and must fear God so they don't abuse men.

There are no victims in nature. Only winners and losers.

Men understand this.
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January 27, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
CoinCube thinks Some women are victims who need protection from the State and that religion can fix it because men are weak and must fear God so they don't abuse women...


CoinCube also thinks Some men are victims who need protection from the State and that religion can fix it because women are weak and must fear God so they don't abuse men.
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January 27, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
CoinCube thinks women are victims who need protection from the State and that religion can fix it because men are the weak gender and must fear God so they don't abuse women. (Why he ignores the first and most fundamental teaching of Genesis is another symptom of the Gramscian infection)

Everyone who has studied politics knows damn well what “The Left” means, (except for the part where they pretend that National Soc‍ialism isn’t on the left). It is a coalition of “victim groups” and their alleged protectors, who seek greater government control to redress the alleged historical harm done to those groups and punish the “oppressors” thereof.

Anyhow, this description might have value in the US, what I doubt. It does not fly in the rest of the world, where Left is aligned with Labour and Union parties.

If you don’t think Labo(u)r defines workers as oppressed and employers as oppressors, you aren’t paying attention.


CoinCube has a philosophy which is precisely opposite of reality. He thinks he can achieve a better world with weak males and religion. God help him! Without strong males, he is culturally and philosophically enjoining a collective gulag.

Afaics, CoinCube is mind controlled with the Gramscian infection, probably originating from his highly educated mother and/or his attending very "good" schools (i.e. liberal Gramscian infection indoctrination camps).

>communist subversives mixed in with (and manipulating) supporters of limited and valid causes

It’s actually worse than that. The Gramscian infection consumes worthy causes, chews them up and remakes them in its own pro-totalitarian image. I have seen this happen multiple times.

But some causes were never worthy to begin with. Gun control is perhaps the most obvious example.

For a worthy cause in the end stage of Gramscian consumption, consider the U.S. antiwar movement. It is right that we should have a vocal, principled domestic constituency against unnecessary military action. But we have no such thing.

Instead, we have a kind of sock puppet that becomes dead silent when a Communist-indoctrinated President is in the White House, raising not so much a peep at drone-strikes a go-go or multiple failed interventions in places like Libya, or at boots on the ground right now in Iraq.

Wars are protested only when doing so serves the purposes of the Gramscian long march. This isn’t even hidden well any more: scratch an “anti-war” demonstration and you find a Stalinist political group like International ANSWER at the bottom of it. And the mainstream media doesn’t care about this – infected themselves, they see no enemy to the left, ever.


This is very poignant example of how the Gramscian infection is so pervasive. CoinCube is a highly respected member of this forum, has degrees in both math & a medical doctor. It pains me to come to this realization.

Whereas, I am a lowlife piece-of-shit with no credentials. I attended inner city, shitty schools. I've wasted much of my life farting around in the Philippines making very many mistakes.

I prefer if CoinCube and I will stop, because otherwise this will only get worse from here. I am unable to deny what I see. Sorry I must be a man at this point.

I don't wish to personalize it beyond this. This is my best and last attempt to shock CoinCube and wake him from his infection. I know there is no hope though because his indoctrination began in his formative years and it is impossible to undo that wiring.
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January 27, 2017, 08:09:12 PM

CoinCube, your idealistic, effeminate, socialist nonsense is not worthy of a response...


 Cheesy
"Is there no one else!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8N6W1Zm8P4A
 Wink
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January 27, 2017, 07:20:39 PM

CoinCube, your idealistic, effeminate, socialist nonsense is not worthy of a response other than this.


This is so true. That is why we just need to discard all the idiots, because they are hopelessly brain washed.

You'll never get that done if you don't get control over the females. Period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOEweZtlonQ  <--- note religion is also a form of mind control employed!
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January 27, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Cooperation involves a mutually beneficial exchange that improves the well-being of both participants.

You didn't even understand what I wrote. Try to comprehend what "coordination problem" and "aliasing error" mean in the context.

You go on living in your fantasy world.
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Freedom&Honor
January 27, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
At the beginning I thought I was going to read something revolutionary

I just wasted 30 minutes of my time

Only thing I read from here that we're being massively lied to  Roll Eyes
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January 27, 2017, 05:11:42 PM
I've never seen this much autism in a one place  Smiley

It is not autism when it is intentional political incorrectness. Autistics don't know they are offending others, i.e. they don't even have any wiring to perceive the feelings of others.  Please learn your concepts before putting your ridicule foot in your own mouth.

You don't even know different types of autism  Smiley
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January 27, 2017, 03:10:44 PM
Marxists have taught you men to hate yourselves, and to blame the irrationality of women on men.

And you are destroying yourselves because you are no longer men.

Women turn to the State, not because men abrogated their responsibilities, but because women are naturally prone to eat the forbidden fruit. They are naturally prone to Marxism and they will even influence their young boys to become emasculated, if you "men" don't get your fucking head out of your ass.

You can't reason with these emasculated men, same as you can't reason with a female. They simply don't understand nature and competition.

I am looking for a few good strong men. Are there any out there?



Please make sure you have read everything I wrote on this topic. For example, those men who hate on women and disrespect them, thus end up destroying themselves, because they become lazy and parasites. I am not advocating evil against women. Rather I am advocating not allowing women's weaknesses to destroy masculinity and thus destroy society. Marxists can't comprehend this. Don't even try to talk to them. You are wasting your time doing so.

The more salient question is, are there are any men remaining on Earth? Please contact me. I don't think you exist.
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January 27, 2017, 02:58:15 AM
One of the controversial themes from the above linked discussion is whether women should be repressed (while also giving them free will to defect with consequences of banishment from the tribe).

I believe CoinCube would for example want to cite how for example religious communities can uplift and hold educated females to good behavior and high fertility, and he might for example cite something like the following as an example (not specifically for himself but just pulling this out as example that could be cited):

https://pjmedia.com/faith/2016/10/24/how-orthodox-judaism-elevates-the-status-of-women/

As I read that woman's perspective it reaffims my stance.

Observe the image being sold on that linked blog of a virtuous, beautiful, smart, faithful female (a fairytale that will never exist!):



Observe how the males emasculate themselves in this tribe:

I've been exposed to strong and weak women in my life in various facets. And my experience has universally been of observing them destroy things. I tried emancipation and giving the keys and watched that crash and burn. Etc.. Whereas, I have observed some stable men in my life (not all though and certainly not including myself).

Dark Enlightenment 101 Remedial Class now in session:

III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.

Women are psychologically built to deal with drama, because nothing is more drama-inducing that having to deal with a baby or a toddler.

But if there are no kids, women still have the psychological need for drama. So they create it. In most cases it’s in their personal lives, but what you’re seeing with this march is that drama being acted out on a mass scale.

This is ultimately the mass insanity caused by a country that insisted on women having careers instead of families.
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