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legendary
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July 29, 2015, 07:42:25 AM
Warning, this will exceed the intellectual capacity of most readers here. This is intended for the high IQ audience of Eric's blog.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5457696
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I have long studied the mechanisms of Dark.  For example, the curious Dark Switches on the wall that when turned in the down position, suck all the light out of the room.  These can be noted to be connected to the active mechanism, the Dark Bulb, for for the newly energy conscious, the Dark Noodle.

There is a massively huge Dark which orbits the Earth and vacuums up light on a 24 hour basis.  It was once believed that all of these minor Dark entities originate from the Dark Side of the Moon.  Now we know that verily, it is the Poles of the Moon which shelter the Craters of Eternal Dark, where for billions of years only the light of far away stars has impacted.

Then there are Books, which cannot even be read in the Dark, which proves their transient nature and even worse, computer screens the abject enemy of Dark, intruding into every corner with luminiscent glowing horrror.

Oh, you are so humorous.

One thought, though. The back side of the moon may be dark with relation to the people of earth, but it is bathed in sunlight daily as it swings around the earth.

Smiley
legendary
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July 29, 2015, 06:38:06 AM
One day I will need to take the time to real all of Marx to understand how he ostensibly transitioned from a correct statement of reality in the Preface to such a horrific killing field of Communism.

He did not, by and large. At least not in the way that Communism is understood today. Communism, for him, was just a philosophical concept, some kind of evolutionary (end?-) point of humanity in the future that would happen naturally (tribes -> feudalism -> capitalism -> communism) (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism). The utopian kind communism is not an authoritarian system, it's rather that people would voluntary follow the lifestyle of *from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs*, as they would finally realize they can be freed from the coercion of capital, money, and property. Essentially a world where the provision of all basic needs (and beyond) is automated by robots/computers anyway, and workers have to contribute very little, if at all.

The discourse on the left is rather about what needs to happen on the road to that goal. Some kind of consensus is that changes first and foremost happen through revolutions. The right strategies have to be employed to steer revolutions (that would necessarily happen in the course of history anyway) into the right direction. Although Communism means a society without both capital and the state, some revolutionary thinkers wanted to use the state as a temporary(!) tool, and subvert it by turning the dictatorship of the bourgeois into the dictatorship of the proletariat; that was Lenin's line of thought, and he got his way, the rest is history.
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July 28, 2015, 01:49:51 PM
rpietila, I moved our discussion about theory of change activism in money systems, and username18333 on the applicability of his Great Empire of Hyperaccelerated Redistribution Theft™ anti-money altcoin, to the Economic Devastation thread which is more apropos.

Even Karl Marx understood that the system of social structure was a result of (and not the cause of) the mode of production driven by technology (a.k.a. "natural science"). He eloquently stated that the mode of production shifted over time due to changes in the underlying technological "forces of" production. He explained that what he meant by capitalism is the "modern bourgeois society" which he certainly meant those who could aggregate more capital in the power-law distribution simply because they had more capital.

Karl Marx did not state that the reason for this rise of monetary capitalists is because the Industrial Age can be financed with usury because industry (e.g. factories) require high fixed capital investments, with amortized rates of return. And thus industrial society can not produce without concentration of monetary capital. And thus capitalists are then able to capture the government and write off usury defaults to the public backstop, because in an industrial society production is too big to fail because it does not incorporate Taleb's anti-fragility thus investments in production overcommit to egregious estimation errors because there is a contagion effect of increasing debt to stimulate demand and production. In short, the entire industrial system is doomed to corruption by its very technological nature regardless what social structure is attempted to build on top of it.

Whereas, in the opening post of the Economic Devastation thread, CoinCube has cited my writings on the theory that the Knowledge Age inverts the control over capital, because knowledge creation (not preexisting knowledge consumption per se, although learning is diversified especially if autodidactic undirected and thus a form of innovative knowledge creation) spawns chaotically and unpredictably, thus can not be control by monetary capital. It is the changes in technology which have enabled individuals to directly "sell" (trade) their knowledge creation into the market of demand for knowledge creation, and stepping out from under the control and reason for existance of the corporation in the Theory of the Firm, that is destroying the utility of excessive quantities of stored monetary capital, because it is implausible to convert these large stores of capital to efficient production of knowledge. This is the why the old world industrial capitalists are creating a new world order of totalitarian control in order to try to hang on to their power which is being fundamentally eroded by technological shift to the Knowledge Age.

I believe I am the progenitor of the concept and term Knowledge Age in this context.

I have argued to rpietila that the technological struts (e.g. anonymous internet and anonymous money for trading and including micropayments scaling which Monero can't do) have to be in place before the change will occur and that his religious activism is counter-productive.

I have argued that username18333 makes the same mistake that all communists and socialists do, in that they can think by force of destroying freedom by stealing from some to give to others that they can change the underlying forces of production. One day I will need to take the time to read all of Marx to understand how he ostensibly transitioned from a correct statement of reality in the Preface to such a horrific killing field of Communism.

P.S. I am the former AnonyMint, the creator of this Dark Enlightenment thread.
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April 11, 2015, 06:41:15 AM
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September 12, 2014, 03:29:36 AM
Guerrilla Economist, V talks about the end of the US dollar in 2015 (amongst other things).
This appears to coincide with AnonyMint's 2015.75; looks like we have about a year.

Are you ready?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejxx_dpzYO0
legendary
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September 10, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
Great to have you back.
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September 10, 2014, 03:21:44 AM
legendary
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September 05, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
I hope everyone realizes I was correct when I wrote "Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch" in March 2013.

Don't you see? The powers-that-be planted Bitcoin in order to force the nation-states to adopt their own digital currencies.

Thud! It just hit my consciousness.


Self-defeating attitude, den Schwanz einziehend (pulling in the cock, as we say in German, chickening out).

Also untrue. Centrally controlled digital currencies would have come either way. No need to allure the population with Bitcoin first. A nice Apple or Facebook app will suffice (with strong lobby for subsidization to prevent high fees due to "customer" "protection" and AML/KYC costs).

Why The Deep State Always Wins: The Zero-Sum Game of Perpetual War

http://cryptome.org/2014/08/deep-state-wins.pdf

1/ IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
2/ WAR IS PEACE
3/ SLAVERY IS FREEDOM

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“Like it or lump it, we’ll do what we like. So just get used to it, world.”

4/ RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

"Schwanz einziehen"-Attitude again.
legendary
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September 05, 2014, 06:29:11 AM
Why The Deep State Always Wins: The Zero-Sum Game of Perpetual War

http://cryptome.org/2014/08/deep-state-wins.pdf

1/ IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
2/ WAR IS PEACE
3/ SLAVERY IS FREEDOM

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“Like it or lump it, we’ll do what we like. So just get used to it, world.”
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September 05, 2014, 02:29:39 AM
Your links don't go anywhere that provides a clear list of the principles of the "Dark Enlightenment" without a giant mess of quotes from various threads. That being said, I gather that it has three chief "complaints":

1) "The Cathedral" is lying to us about major issues.

Nowhere do you seem to explain what "The Cathedral" is, or which issues it is lying about other than (2).

2) The common refrain that "all men are created equal" is false.

This is obviously correct, not all men (and women) are equal. In fact, they all differ from each other in countless ways. But few apart from the very dense really take this statement to mean that everyone should be considered equal in terms of their ability, intelligence, attractiveness, strength, etc. What it really means is that everyone should be treated equally in the eyes of the law, and presented with the same sets of opportunities in life, regardless of their race, gender, etc.

3) Democracy is a failure.

Certainly democracy has many problems. Few nations follow a model of pure democracy; usually democracy is tempered by a constitution, a court system, corporate interests, international treaties, etc. Nevertheless, democratic systems of government today prevalent in Western nations have given rise to the most prosperous societies in human history, with the greatest quality of life and freedoms for their citizens. Furthermore, no alternative systems that give rise to a better form of government have been demonstrated. The only alternatives that have been tried (monarchy, theocracy, dictatorship, etc) are worse, not better.

Not many people know that Anarchy has been tried to quite a significant extent. That is until I think the first world war (?) put an end to their non sovereignty.

This book is vital in demonstrating this:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=JGUJVMbsCovUPJyogOAI&url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KB6DLUO%3Fpc_redir%3D1409549021%26robot_redir%3D1&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEPK8zowwyr1nQqlyVvw1BePv7DLA&sig2=tyUNOkXu4idQNaWBkk5mzw

If you don't want to read, Google an interview with the author. I think liberty.me did one.
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September 04, 2014, 11:53:32 PM
Your links don't go anywhere that provides a clear list of the principles of the "Dark Enlightenment" without a giant mess of quotes from various threads. That being said, I gather that it has three chief "complaints":

1) "The Cathedral" is lying to us about major issues.

Nowhere do you seem to explain what "The Cathedral" is, or which issues it is lying about other than (2).

2) The common refrain that "all men are created equal" is false.

This is obviously correct, not all men (and women) are equal. In fact, they all differ from each other in countless ways. But few apart from the very dense really take this statement to mean that everyone should be considered equal in terms of their ability, intelligence, attractiveness, strength, etc. What it really means is that everyone should be treated equally in the eyes of the law, and presented with the same sets of opportunities in life, regardless of their race, gender, etc.

3) Democracy is a failure.

Certainly democracy has many problems. Few nations follow a model of pure democracy; usually democracy is tempered by a constitution, a court system, corporate interests, international treaties, etc. Nevertheless, democratic systems of government today prevalent in Western nations have given rise to the most prosperous societies in human history, with the greatest quality of life and freedoms for their citizens. Furthermore, no alternative systems that give rise to a better form of government have been demonstrated. The only alternatives that have been tried (monarchy, theocracy, dictatorship, etc) are worse, not better.
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September 04, 2014, 11:20:33 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/10/technology/bitcoin-jpmorgan/

The difference between digital banking accounts we have now and the digital currencies, is each citizen has to register for a wallet. One wallet for one citizen. Like your Social Security Number in the USA.

Your wallet can them be moved around to different banks.

Digital currencies is a code word for complete government tracking and total loss of bank privacy.  Your bank will still hold your balance, but every transaction gets cleared through government servers.

As Armstrong said, Ecuador is the trial run for what is coming to every country in the world after 2015.75 when the global economy turns down (which will provide the excuses and justifications for the changes along with the bailins and need to lockup every person's balances).

Bitcoin was planted to condition to world to "digital currencies"...

Quite possibly.  I don t think one has to invoke obscure conspiracies for that.  Financial privacy is already so cumbersome and costly to achieve that most people will rather just give up on it.  It is like trying to pay for rent and groceries with gold dust in order to avoid dealing with "evil fiat".

So far the Westerners would not yet agree to give up the financial privacy of being able to sign up a bank account where ever they wish, even in jurisdictions that have bank secrecy, e.g. the Philippines where I am and also apparently Ecuador. They are boiling frogs and don't realize what is going to hit them post 2015.75.

So the powers-that-be have numerous strategies for how they are breaking down that resistance in order to bring us to total government control:

1. Plant Bitcoin to condition the people to like "digital currencies", garnish the glossy-eyed devotion of the high-tech libertarians, and to give governments an excuse to make it illegal and create draconian replacements in their jurisdictions.

2. 19 muslims on camels, 9/11, Patriot Act, then FATCA.

3. Bring bank accounts of interest in bank secrecy jurisdictions into the risk mgmt department, and have them send out an SMS with all transaction details on every transaction asking if this was an authorized tx (I know anecdotally for a fact this happening).

4. Pile up the debt so high, repeal Glass-Steagal so banks can bankrupt themselves on speculation, so then the only solution is to 'restructure' (bailin, nationalize, confiscate by any other name) society's savings and pensions. This will require numbered accounts for each person in order to dole out "daily living allowances".

Etc..


You obviously hope that Monero or some other cryptocoin will allow people to retain financial privacy without joining some savage tribe and subsisting on berries and monkey meat.  Good luck with that.  Need I tell you that I am rather skeptical about the idea?

The only hope is distribution as a currency to the developing world has to begin pronto. Bitcoin isn't even close because it is centralization and rich boys investment pump paradigm (where the participants are deluded into think it is a currency paradigm).

I will not repeat again my past posts which reveal some ideas for solutions because I am losing time.

Crypto currencies function by no decree. They are decentrally produced.

Bitcoin is centrally produced for mining (Ghash.io + any other pool have > 50% of hashrate) and protocol development.

With the coming ETFs and other offchain entities, I posit it will soon by top-controlled for investment and transactions too.

Raise your hindquarters in the air for some Butthurtcoin.
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September 04, 2014, 11:49:53 AM
...nation-states to adopt their own digital currencies.

And what does that change? Most developed nations already use digital currency, as most payments are in electronic form. How does this affect crypto currencies though, which are stateless? Care to explain?

Sounds like AnonyMint is a tinfoil hat if he is suggesting that a centralized crypto currency like Equadors state currency, will over take Bitcoin.

Currently about 6 billion people in the world still use cash. They are the future, because the have:

1. The youth.
2. Not the retirees.
3. Not the debt.
4. Not the massive social system, taxes, and unfunded liabilities.
5. Not the destroyed family unit and reproduction.

What they adopt is what rules the world.

Already in Hong Kong, most everyone swipes a digital card to pay most transactions. I was there in January 2014.

India recently started to move towards adopting a digital currency and digital tagging of all the population.

The model predicts the financial capital of the world will shift to Shanghai and the developing world.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/08/05/the-shift-from-west-to-the-east/



Now fuck off with your nonsense, ill-informed, Butthurtcoin posts.

The window of opportunity is closing while you all stroke your useless (bankrupt) Caucasian pride.

Butthurtcoin is pushing the nation-states to adopt their own national digital currencies, while Butthurtcoin is scaling too slow to be a ubiquitous replacement. And Butthurtcoin is failing and falling under control of a rich boys club.

The government is all about having control, they could run their own Bitcoin and force people to use it. But who would support THAT government? The rest of the world wouldn't care about it and the truth to the Equador people would get out there as long as we have the internet for communication.

In the long term anything that is controlled by one or few people, would not be supported by the rest of the crowd.

You are so naive. The people in the developing world could give a rats ass about our idealism and problems with bloated socialism. They don't have high taxes, bloated social systems.

They need to get paid to buy food. They will accept payment in what ever they are paid with. They are already adopting oDesk which they can withdraw with their ATM card. The governments will plug their digital currencies into this.
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September 04, 2014, 08:35:11 AM
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September 04, 2014, 07:51:50 AM
Cross-posting...

We don't have much time remaining:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/03/ecuador-will-be-the-first-country-to-start-digital-currency/

Powers-that-be are also taking control over Buttcoin, with mining centralized in a couple of pools, and soon the money supply locked up off-chain:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8649126
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8663871

And your remedy to the situation is what? First of all, I am a little surprised of your continued compliance. We would not need any coins if all the people just decided that enough is enough. The problem is not economy, it is the perpetrators of injustice.

I am not complying. But the fruits of my efforts are not yet visible, and quite possibly might arrive too late. I did light a fire under my butt just now though.

We can't fight by just openly refusing to comply, because there are enough people who are going to stand with the sinking Titanic and grab us on the way down to make sure we sink with them.

Imo, the only way we can fight is with technology. The geographical frontiers are closing. As Armstrong says, "you can't jump on a boat, plane, train, or car with gold and go make a new life some where".

The case caused me to lose any respect towards the organization pulling such a trick. If they regard me as scum, so be it both ways.

There is no limit whatsoever these sad clowns will do if we let them. They can make any laws and when they are not convenient, change them, amend them, or just act irrespective of them. The less people resist this fuckery, the easier it is for them to continue. The first point of realization would be to realize that any use of force or threat thereof, towards your freedom, is a crime. On their part, not yours.

I somewhat agree this is often the case, but generalising and saying "no force full stop" turns it into an utopian anarchy which exists only in fools' dreams.

If there isn't someone entitled to the use of force to mantain order, someone else will just decide to use force to his own advantage: this is anarchy.

So, unless you plan to become a Warlord in a world controlled solely by Warlords (in that case please let me know and I'll consider moving into your territory if that happens), you should aim to fix the government, not just to bash it.

Imagine a world where everyone is armed with individual technology which thwarts force. Then we don't need the government to protect us from warlords.

Welcome to the Knowledge Age.
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September 03, 2014, 12:52:51 AM
My target market thoughts. The abnormal inequality of distribution (by design) is killing crypto-currency.
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September 02, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: You can lead an Armstrong horse to water,  but you can't make it drink
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, September 2, 2014 9:45 pm
To:      Armstrong Economics
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Armstrong is correct in many of his points about gold:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/02/will-gold-still-go-to-5000/

But can anyone spot the flaws in his analysis?

The control over the issuance of money and debt is intimately tied to the power vacuum of democracy. Gold as money isn't entirely autonomous as it needs to be stamped for purity and weight in order to be used as rapid medium-of-exchange.

He still doesn't get it! PoW is a technological Richter scale 11 earthquake.

He is likely posting that because I accused him of not getting it. And he still doesn't get it!

Quote from: Armstrong
Gold did not save Spain nor did the gold standard postwar world with Bretton Woods! Why? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE MONEY IS – THE PROBLEM IS FISCAL MISMANAGEMENT OF GOVERNMENT.  Returning to a gold standard will NOT make politicians honest. Sorry – we need real reform for that one and that does NOT center upon what we use as money.

This should be about making money – not supporting a predetermined idea because that is what someone would like to see happen. No matter what evidence is presented, there are those who will refuse to believe anything other than what they want to believe. That is life. They have to learn the hard way.
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