Topic: Dash Codename Evolution (Read 7247 times)

This post hasn't aged well.

The reason Dash was being quiet about Evolution is that fulfilling all of Evan's ancient 2015 promises about masternode blinding, smart contracts, and other cyberpunk vaporware turned out to be beyond the third-rate skill set of Dash's devs.

Where is Tao to hector you about the unsupported speculation in your boisterous claim "by the time everyone realizes what we’re making, we’ll be so far along this path, that no group will be able to implement it fast enough to launch this system before us?"

Your unsupported speculation hasn't aged well and if Tao enforced his rules equally you would not longer be permitted to make it on Dash.org or other forums he controls.

Perhaps I'm not giving you enough credit for managing to get paid so much to produce so little.  After all, your excuse of "it's to our benefit to make sure Dash Evolution is absolutely perfect when we launch" is the (absolutely) perfect way to ensure Dash Evolution will NEVER be launched, so you keep getting paid to look busy while Evolution asymtotically approaches absolute perfection as time approaches infinity...  

Let's see... no product released, no routing, no Masternode blinding, no Layer 2 solutions, still talking about tests and DIPs, a roadmap and github that are as vaporous as the project they rest with.

Trading check: volume dropped significantly, falling out of the Top 10 due to concerns about the non-utility of the overpaid Dash Core Devs to the project (i.e., there isn't a product released and this thing is no better than a whitepaper bedroom startup. I mean it should be better - you have guys here who are for-real programmers and creators, thinkers; but in evidence, this is operating in a manner becoming a scam).

I go over to the Dash forums ... same conversations about speedy development (men are most vain about the thing that troubles them the most), stretch goals, incredible development towards stated goals, more discussions, closing in on objectives, robust strong team, an expanding team, a team that recently have been doing better and better, 'getting the word out,' getting that messaging happening, process, diligence, meetings, roundtable discussions, useless Quarterly Updates from centralized governance admins, rain panchos, Max Keiser travelogues, sponsoring human cockfighting and air shows, crying about Amanda's Dear Dash letter...

What happened to the "Dash Evolution Demonstration" which we were told would happen at  the Miami Bitcoin Event in January 2016?

That was over two years ago.  Since then we have seen absolutely nothing concrete regarding Dash EvoluSHAM.  Not a single line of code.  Not even a whitepaper.

Let me be clear.  Dash Evolution is a sham.  There is no evidence to the contrary.  And no (sorry Dash PaidShills), regurgitating the hand-waving blue-sky promises and entreaties of the overpaid and demonstrably incompetent DashCoreGroup does *NOT* count as concrete evidence they have made actual concrete progress towards EvoluSHAM deliverables.

Is it really him after all that has been said and done? where did the post go?

wow indeed... LOL...

well i guess he can make white paper and a proposal on Dash network ?

EDIT:: false alarm LOL...

Wow, if this really is the real anonymint then that is a big swing around right there.... didn't see that coming did we.
Tough times really do call for tough decisions. You should name your price ...anything less than 100BTC for a clear lead over their competition is not worth it for you. Will be worth way more than that to your own project if you can afford to wait. Depending on how big a deal this really is.

I'm not totally sure myself but i suspect that banning has to do more with control over masternodes and miners and not to do with the endusers.
I will get back on this... or hopefully someone can comment on this who knows more of the specifics.

ref : https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-evolution-discussion-thread.7231/page-2#post-75962

IMHO that doesnt explain anything.
what is banning? IP-ban? what is attacking dash? maybe ban DarkLover because your community doesnt like the posting?

i just want to know what banning means. if i am banned:
 - am i able to send funds?
 - am i able to run a node?
 - am i able to run a masternode?

Disclaimer: I dont own Dash and dont plan to buy. Just interested.

thanks for posting that question as i too was interested in knowing the answer (i posted it on the Dashtalk forum yesterday and got a reply)

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-evolution-discussion-thread.7231/




i guess i changed that 12-18 months into 1 day for you .. your welcome.

troll fud as usual


Hi Risto .. why am i thinking of your cryptocurrency Monero when you type the above ?

* small group of insiders --> check
* development goals largely abandoned --> check
* a lot of sock poppet accounts --> check
 

I suggest you focus on the official documentation that has been disclosed recentely and not some first rough draft
https://www.dash.org/evolution/

Also remember that Dash now entered a discussion period at which the official documentation is open for change
or addition at any time..
 
Anyways, nice to see all you XMR guys in here supporting my thread, warms my heart.

Speaking of absurd:


Expect the "liquidity provider" and "network administrator" roles to be Sybil attacked until a quorum of adversaries exists.

Of course there is also the possibility the instamine-empowered Core Dev is by default the de facto adversary of the ordinary honest user...

your statements are all correct.
i still think it is the end, because i cant believe they will find buyers for a coin where somebody is able to freeze balances. crypto is about a trustless currency.
IMHO without buyers the insiders will loose interest.

i may be wrong though

but thats all speculation:
IF evan make this change
IF they are able to freeze balances (not sure what they mean by users - maybe its just for the "social part")

and how this all fits together with dashs so called "anonymity" is another thing to see

What makes you think that would be the end?

There is a small group of insiders who appear willing to keep the effort going a while longer, regardless of how absurd a direction it takes or how many times stated development goals are hyped and then largely or entirely abandoned. They most if not all seem to have accounts created within a month or two of Xcoin/darkcoin/Dash launch (excluding obvious later sock puppets), with early posts on the Dash thread immediately or almost immediately. Likely most knew each other already from other "ventures" or perhaps many of those accounts are just sock puppets, it is hard to say which.

Yes, there are a few exceptions, before anyone pops up and claims to be neither an insider nor a sock puppet (not that such claims could be verified anyway), but they are just that, exceptions.

In other words - "we failed to implement Masternode Blinding, we have no idea what DASH is anymore except that we instamined a lot of it. So we'll call it a social experiment. Meanwhile, we'll continue collecting daily interest payments on our 1000+ instamined masternodes for the next 12-18+ months"


Wow DarkDASHstorjcoin

well it sounds like...evan (as one of the biggest holder) may freeze any funds he wants ;-)
that would be the end of dash though

but i'd prefer to hear an explanation... i dont think he would make it THAT obvious that he wants to reduce the money supply even further

Maybe we'll know in "12-18 months"  

what does "Banning Users" mean exactly?

Disclosure of Dash Evolution : https://www.dash.org/evolution/



Dash Evolution creates a new type of cryptographic currency with various advanced features that assist in the creation of decentralized technology. Dash introduces a tiered network design, which allows users to do various jobs for the network, along with decentralized API access and a decentralized file system.

We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).

Included below is our current work on Evolution, that adds many components such as:

• DashDrive – A decentralized shared file system that lives on the second tier network
• DAPI – A decentralized API which allows third tier users to access the network securely
• DashPay Decentralized Wallets – These wallets are light clients connected to the network via DAPI and run on various platforms
• Second Tier – The masternode network, which provides compensated infrastructure for the project
• Budgets – The second tier is given voting power to allocate funds for specific projects on the network via the budget system
• Governance – The second tier is given voting power to govern the currency and chart the course the currency takes
• Quorum Chain – This feature introduces a permanent stable masternode list, which can be used to calculate past and present quorums
• Primitives – We introduce Users, Groups and Accounts which allow a common way of interacting with the network.
• Social Wallet – By utilizing primitives, we introduce a social wallet, which allows friends lists, grouping of users and shared accounts.
• DSQL – A query language for administering the network via majority quorums (banning users, setting important network variables such as sporks on/off, etc)

Evolution Documentation Release

We’re going to try something different with the development of Dash Evolution. This is a social experiment on building an entire currency completely in the open, with extreme transparency, as such, things will change constantly. This is intended to be an open discovery process that helps us to create the best possible implementation, GUI and feature set for Dash Evolution.  Help us to flesh out these documents by editing, correcting or even coming up with new ideas that we could work into the system.

The documentation below is intended to be very high level, which should give a clear understanding of how to build and secure such a system. These aren’t really intended to be whitepapers, just simple technical documents showing the design choices and structures.

Many of these documents are outlines of ideas of how different pieces of Dash Evolution will work, they aren’t complete, feel free to add to these as well. To help us, simply click the “EDIT” button, then request access to the given documents. Please do not edit the documents directly, instead use the google docs “Suggest” feature. This is intended to be an open discussion of the technology in the documents, that will evolve with the project.

Thanks!

Evan Duffield

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We will be releasing many more documents not here yet in the near future, please keep coming back to see updates and progress of Evolution.

Releases: Last Updated – December 4th, 2015




Will Dash Evolution revolutionize cryptocurrency ? Please discuss.....

https://dashtalk.org/threads/introducing-our-new-team-members.7160/


Disclosure of Dash Evolution imminent, T minus 9 days....

Two more clues / discovery's came out today : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12931574


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