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Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too - page 263. (Read 1601343 times)

member
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So, is it best for us small guys to switch PPS?
member
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You noticed a nearly negligble amount of decrese when switching to PPS? That sounds fucking awesome!
If you could elaborate that'd be nice, and worth a tip

That seems to indicate there are some MASSIVE miners on that pool ... maybe not the best place for the little guy?  Just judging by the numbers.  I never tried PPS, so I can't say based on my experience.  It seems like there is no way to come out ahead with PPS unless your hash rate is way below the average hash rate per miner (to make up for that extra 7%, otherwise it would just have to be below the average hash rate per miner).  You end up with more of those "None" values in your list if you are too slow it seems.
legendary
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Okey Dokey Lokey
You noticed a nearly negligble amount of decrese when switching to PPS? That sounds fucking awesome!
If you could elaborate that'd be nice, and worth a tip
sr. member
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Hey! just noticed the Reward estimator under the statistics page...
It claims that i'd get two coins a day if i was on PPS(24/7),(10% tax) Whilest i get One coin a night when running under Prop.(3%tax)

So it would seem that when running @ 290Megahashes, It's now More beneficial to swap off of prop and goto PPS?
I know that my Prop value is quite low (0.05% of the pool) but that 7% tax increse just screams at me "DONT DO ITTTTTTTTTTTT"
Whilst the Deepbit Calculator say "Dude why arent you doing this already, your acting like a jackass"

The main thing that i noticed was that if i was running at 1500mhash/sec (like i plan to Very soon) then under PPS i would get 12 coins every 24hrs

THATS AWESOME!!!!!
But that 12 coins is with the 10% tax... So érgo wouldnt i get more under Prop. simply because of the lower tax?
Because im really foggy when it comes to How Much im getting paid in proportion to my speed vs the pool.
I like how PPS=Steady payloads but... Wouldnt one get less ß the slower the pool goes? and under Prop. wouldnt one get MORE the slower the pool goes?
Now for the upcoming questions, Just assume that im running at 1500

1.)So:PPS=Bigger pool better for you?
2.)Prop.=Good if your one of the bigger guys?
3.)Small pool prop.=good?
4.)Big pool prop.=bad?
5.)Small pool PPS=bad?
6.)(within deepbit) What would be an estimated pool speed percentage required to be making more while under Prop. (1%? .25%?)


Dude !! Thats like asking how longs a piece of string lol Cheesy I asked the same questions but there is no answer. Here's my take on things PPS and prop are about the same no matter how big the pool gets. When deepbit jumped from 300 to 500Ghs I swapped to PPS for a bit mining at around 550Mhs. I was getting around 3.5 to 4 bitcoins in 24 hours. So I swapped back and its about the same. I wouldn't worry too much about your percentage to the total because if the pool gets bigger blocks are found quicker. So you get a smaller share but more often.

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09.05.2011 15:39:41	0h 02m 	16569	
09.05.2011 15:37:30 0h 04m 36766
09.05.2011 15:32:33 0h 11m 83715
09.05.2011 15:21:21 0h 24m 185173
09.05.2011 14:56:33 0h 21m 161449
09.05.2011 14:34:57 0h 01m 13671
09.05.2011 14:33:04 0h 05m 39822
09.05.2011 14:27:47 1h 26m 645132
09.05.2011 13:01:38 0h 25m 193189
09.05.2011 12:36:03 0h 21m 161464
09.05.2011 12:14:48 0h 06m 48047
09.05.2011 12:08:33 0h 13m 98977
09.05.2011 11:55:33 0h 01m 11911
09.05.2011 11:53:56 0h 03m 26915
09.05.2011 11:50:23 0h 56m 436088
09.05.2011 10:53:34 0h 00m 1021
09.05.2011 10:53:22 0h 09m 69283
09.05.2011 10:44:19 0h 16m 125945
09.05.2011 10:27:48 0h 00m 4560
09.05.2011 10:27:07 0h 00m 2312
09.05.2011 10:26:46 0h 33m 253025

Between these times 10 blocks were found in under 5 mins !!  So between these hours I raked in 0.52055329 btc in around 17 mins !! Not bad for 500Mhs Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
Okey Dokey Lokey
Hey! just noticed the Reward estimator under the statistics page...
It claims that i'd get two coins a day if i was on PPS(24/7),(10% tax) Whilest i get One coin a night when running under Prop.(3%tax)

So it would seem that when running @ 290Megahashes, It's now More beneficial to swap off of prop and goto PPS?
I know that my Prop value is quite low (0.05% of the pool) but that 7% tax increse just screams at me "DONT DO ITTTTTTTTTTTT"
Whilst the Deepbit Calculator say "Dude why arent you doing this already, your acting like a jackass"

The main thing that i noticed was that if i was running at 1500mhash/sec (like i plan to Very soon) then under PPS i would get 12 coins every 24hrs

THATS AWESOME!!!!!
But that 12 coins is with the 10% tax... So érgo wouldnt i get more under Prop. simply because of the lower tax?
Because im really foggy when it comes to How Much im getting paid in proportion to my speed vs the pool.
I like how PPS=Steady payloads but... Wouldnt one get less ß the slower the pool goes? and under Prop. wouldnt one get MORE the slower the pool goes?
Now for the upcoming questions, Just assume that im running at 1500

1.)So:PPS=Bigger pool better for you?
2.)Prop.=Good if your one of the bigger guys?
3.)Small pool prop.=good?
4.)Big pool prop.=bad?
5.)Small pool PPS=bad?
6.)(within deepbit) What would be an estimated pool speed percentage required to be making more while under Prop. (1%? .25%?)
newbie
Activity: 101
Merit: 0
Sometimes the round ends before you have a chance to submit a share, that's why you see "None." This happens more on shorter rounds.
hero member
Activity: 696
Merit: 500
Could someone explain me why i have those "none"s in my statistic page even i use proportional? Miner is on ATM 24/7 and no communacition problems according to log?
What is your hashrate ?
Are those "None"s mostly on the shortest blocks ?

Ive gotten 4 or 5 of these. Really short blocks and I put in a significant amount of shares compared to the overall. like 75 to 400 and I get none. This is not regular but has happened like 4 or 5 times that I've noticed.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 250
I've been disconnecting randomly throughout the day, usually for only a few seconds to a minute then it picks back up. But just now my miners wouldn't reconnect and I had to restart them a few times. It could be my school internet, but it's been good lately and I still had internet access. Phoenix doesn't seem to be causing it. I've also seen a few seconds of idle while waiting for more work happen today.

Could this be the huge growth in deepbit? Or maybe just sketchy internet.
sr. member
Activity: 308
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lol wow 519 Gh/s thats f*&ing impressive. Congratulations !!!  Grin

member
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What is your hashrate ?Are those "None"s mostly on the shortest blocks ?

Thanks to Veldy (sorry if mistyped your name Smiley ) my hashrate is ~280Mhash/s Smiley
Yes, mostly on shortest blocks and there is usually many shares for those blocks. I'm not on my main machine so i don't remember exact figures.

Usually +1k of shares on those "none"s.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
How do you run multiple computers on deepbit? Is it possible to set a different port for each worker?
You don't need a different port.
1) You can create up to 49 additional worker logins in your account, one for each computer.
2) You can use up to 20 computers with each of worker logins if your miner supports Long Polling.
3) You can use unlimited number of miners with the same login if your miner doesn't supports long polling.

How do you run your multiple miners from behind a router? The only way I know is port-forwarding, which would require a different port for each pc.

The miners don't need an open port, you bitcoin client does.  Use uPNP to run multiple bitcoin clients behind your router (assuming it supports it).
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250


How do you run your multiple miners from behind a router? The only way I know is port-forwarding, which would require a different port for each pc.

You don't need to port forward for mining clients, they work behind nat just fine. You only need to port forward to a the bitcoin client to get incoming connections from the network.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
How do you run multiple computers on deepbit? Is it possible to set a different port for each worker?
You don't need a different port.
1) You can create up to 49 additional worker logins in your account, one for each computer.
2) You can use up to 20 computers with each of worker logins if your miner supports Long Polling.
3) You can use unlimited number of miners with the same login if your miner doesn't supports long polling.

How do you run your multiple miners from behind a router? The only way I know is port-forwarding, which would require a different port for each pc.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
How do you run multiple computers on deepbit? Is it possible to set a different port for each worker?
You don't need a different port.
1) You can create up to 49 additional worker logins in your account, one for each computer.
2) You can use up to 20 computers with each of worker logins if your miner supports Long Polling.
3) You can use unlimited number of miners with the same login if your miner doesn't supports long polling.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
How do you run multiple computers on deepbit? Is it possible to set a different port for each worker?
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
What is your hashrate ?Are those "None"s mostly on the shortest blocks ?

Thanks to Veldy (sorry if mistyped your name Smiley ) my hashrate is ~280Mhash/s Smiley
Yes, mostly on shortest blocks and there is usually many shares for those blocks. I'm not on my main machine so i don't remember exact figures.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Could someone explain me why i have those "none"s in my statistic page even i use proportional? Miner is on ATM 24/7 and no communacition problems according to log?
What is your hashrate ?
Are those "None"s mostly on the shortest blocks ?
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
Could someone explain me why i have those "none"s in my statistic page even i use proportional? Miner is on ATM 24/7 and no communacition problems according to log?
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
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You don't have to change receiving address. The address u gave in the settings page of ur account is enough.
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One more thing, set the threshold to match the maximum bitcoins u get in 24 hours. This pool sends your bitcoins every 24 hrs automatically...  

oh, thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 302
Merit: 250
Should add total hash rate speed reporting on the web site for each worker as well as the total thats currently displayed.
This would be very useful.
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