Topic: Decentrally mined currency has failed so far - page 4. (Read 11292 times)

Astute point. I agree the powers-that-be will prefer compliance, but in the absence of compliance they can use war. By definition, non-compliance means they also lose their ability to snoop.


Another option is blocking non-compliant traffic on the backbones. Thus they can force compliance domestically because the mainstream economy doesn't want to be impacted by the rogue cowboys and will agree to weed them out.

One of the impetus for making a better Tor now is to make is popular asap, so that it is more difficult to filter it without impacting the mainstream. But we may already be too late.

Generally speaking the masses are against the political corruption, not against an identification card and showing it when asked. So the powers-that-be only need to vilify some figure heads and get the masses focused on that, while getting them to join Bitcoin via Paypal or some other compliant service provider.

Again the rogue cowboys will be shut off from the mainstream as usual. For those nations that decide to go rogue en mass, the powers-that-be can turn their country into a chaotic shit hole with war. And they can even in some cases get that country to fight itself, e.g. Ukraine. There are deep divisions in the USA so it won't be difficult to get the USA to fight itself as the economy turns down hard.


The black budget of stolen funds is on the order of $5+ trillion, which Donald Rumsfeld admitting on TV the day before 9/11 (then all the records were destroyed at the Pentagon the next day). The DEEP STATE is already in possession of this money.

Besides they will charge the costs to public, by confiscating (ahem taxing) wealth, including Bitcoins. And they earn money by selling weapons and giving loans to both sides of any conflict.

This time it isn't a joke. You guys have no idea how your world is going to turn upside down over the next several years.

I hope you realize Russia's economy is threatened by the collapsing oil prices and global downturn. The only way Putin can maintain his 80% public approval rating is to keep escalating. And the powers-that-be are happy to oblige this.

Europe also needs a war when their economies implode (coming soon).

Yes of course I know that. And I know ways of obtaining a new citizenship that doesn't require I spend much money too. Does that warrant cluttering this thread with a post?

I realize you are trying to make some silly claim that because I haven't done it yet, then I am not serious about doing it. And you are incorrect.

France doesn't have a nuclear deterrence force, it has a nuclear defense force. Obviously they won't start a war with Russia, but they can and would escalate it. Save the NWO stuff for Alex Jones.

Oh I see, you are "buy and hold religiously and ignore any new information". That is a classic gold bug mentality also.


Oh I see that seizure of money and capital controls are not evidence of USA style authoritarianism which you claimed doesn't exist in your nirvana.


Information is noise to those who can't do addition or who are willfully vested in ignoring information.

You pretend to be dumb.

I broadly agree that all gov's are power crazed organisations and truly capable of the most dangerous of actions.

However, if the USA were to close the internet backbones, it would leave them without the ability to snoop and spy on the rest of the planet and thus be isolated. They are then, in effect, in a similar same catch 22 situation as those they would seek to control.

The HUGE burden of finding resources to carry out all this monitoring and enforcement shouldn't be underestimated as they'd be confronting people by the millions (billions?).

You can get rid of your US-citizenship if you want to. Many people already did.

What could be better to torment the world into begging for a new world order to restore peace, than to have regional nuclear war.

Remember Putin keeps making the point that whatever the USA did in the past, he can do, e.g. Kosovo and Putin Crimea.

When the shit really gets hot, nobody is going to care about who owns the internet cables in the ocean, only that they've been selectively rendered inoperable.

Remember the powers-that-be, "whether by peaceful compliance or conflict, we will have a new world order".

The bitcoins I bought are worth more today, so your assumption that I lost money is just wrong, like most of your assumption.
I still have no idea, what are talking about, when you say "turvarya, are you not aware of all the seizures of cash and gold of Europeans crossing borders?". There are limits of how many cash your are allowed to bring over a border. If you bring more, it get seized. It get seized, when it is drug money. There are many reasons to rightfully seize money. Nothing special about. You also get prosecuted in the EU for murder. But that's not a sign of the influence of the USA in the EU. We did that before, your country was even formed.
So, show me a case, where it wasn't legit to seize this money. You are raffling random stuff, without showing any evidence.

Um. France has nukes too.

I guess you weren't alive during World War 2.

I don't wish my country can enforce its edicts you European cry baby. I want to get rid of my USA citizenship. I am just looking at reality.

The reality is none of you own a gun and so Putin could have his tanks in France within 15 days if the USA doesn't try to stop him.

And guess what? We are not going to stop him. We will pretend we have budget problems, even though Obama sees no problem with running $1 trillion deficit spending on the socialism.

You will get an education soon about reality of the outcome of your safety nets.

And you are talking about North Korea, not the USA. That's what happens to the types of regimes you are supporting.

Talk about delusion. Geez. You are really far out in fantasy land. Good luck.

You really believe that nonsense that Bitcoin will take over as the only currency. This is the mentality of an insane goldbug.

I think you should continue in your ignorant bliss and category errors illogic. And I should not try to wake up a sheep.

And all because you invested in Bitcoin and lost a lot of money and need the price to go up. Sigh. Therefore you resist any attempt to say the protocol needs improvement.

Thanks for confirming to me that the powers-that-be have no significant resistance.

You enjoy moving the goal posts. Does that help you?

Being disingenuous can only serve to fool yourself. You asked me for any signs that the world is caving in to USA style authoritarianism. I provided it, you move the goal posts to something other than what you asked me to do.

Yes the mining equipment being used to avoid regulations will be seized when the time is ripe. But by then it will be much too late for you. I warned about Tor in mid-2013, then in late 2014 so many hidden services were busted.

Ditto will happen again on my warnings.

Backbones are owned by private interests. Those private interests could ask for protection from aggressive authorities in exchange for the privileges the aggressive authority once had. That aggressive authority would then be committing an act of war to continue its aggression.

Exactly which government department owns the airports and airlines?

There are no TSA and body cavity searches for infants and grandmas. It is just a delusion.

Fuck the powers-that-be could defaecate in your face, fuck you in your ass, and you'd still be protecting your investment in Bitcoin. Amazing how investments can make you stupid.

It is the same myopia that infected the gold bugs. They argued all the way down from $1700 to $1150 with Armstrong's prediction. And they still persist. They need a good ass whipping before they will capitulate.