Topic: 🍀 Default Trust Oylamalarına Nasıl Katılabilirim? 🍀 Bu Neden Önemlidir ? - page 6. (Read 3988 times)

Is your greedy mind capable of processing anything other than money, you hopeless little critter?? Can you even read and comprehend? Unlike you, I don't do things here on the forum only for money. It is quite apparent why you particularly are treated so badly in global, Mr. wolwoo. You are just a butthurt, useless idiot.

You are a shitcoin, ponzi promoter who has been caught and is incapable of civilized discussion. You are no Turk.

I do not understand Turkish and am using Google translate to understand and have a conversation. My only reason is that I don't want dangerous ideas about trust or conspiracy theories about BTC to propagate freely. You fail to understand this because people like you never stand for anything except money, greed and profit. From the discussions I have had with a few people here, I can already see that you, my friend, are no Turk.

Apparently you're barking to pay off your debt

son olarak kimse MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATÜRK'e laf edemez! "neden türkler bu kadar hassas?" diye soran olacaklara kısa bir özet: osmanlı devleti zamanında "türk" diye bir kavram yoktu. hepimiz padişahın kuluyduk. (köle amk) birinci dünya savaşı öncesi artan milliyetçilik akımıyla "türk" benliği yeniden ortaya çıktı. ve ülkemiz son halini aldı. eskiden kul, ümmet iken şimdi türk adı altında bir araya geldik. ben türküm diyen herkes bizim için türk'tür. japon, afgan, amerikalı fark etmez.
150 sene önce dedem çiftçi iken torunu şu an ülkenin en iyi üniversitesinde okuyup mühendis olabiliyor. kadınlara verilen haklar için tarih kitaplarına bakabilirsiniz.

neyse, yazınız için teşekkür ederim. yukarıda sorduğum sorular size değil.

Yalnız itiraf et wolwi şampiyonlar ligi gibi list demi vallaha kendimi tebrik edesim geldi 

nası "kimseyle alıp veremediğim yok" turkish gangs üyelerini eklemişsin, bundan büyük suç mu olur? üstelik listeyi 10 kişiden fazla yaparak geçerli bir liste yapmışsın, cık cık cık
http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h/1024933.html

La kimseyle alıp veremediğim yok globale tek imza kampanyalarına yazdım benim mesajlarımı translate edip bana mi kullanacaklar vay anasını sayın seyirciler 

  ay parçası ile psikopat eklemiş, hele dur daha yeni başlıyoruz, yakında zamanlordu ekler, loyloy bir mesajını ekleyip "hımm çok şüpheli, şimdilik distrust ile yetineceğim" falan der, kısa malbora negatif verir, lavuka negatif kezaaa...

Vay vay hiç tanımadığım hiç muhattap olmadığım iki kişi beni ditrust a eklemiş sanırım tek etken Türk olmam

~~~ NPC ajan görev başında ~~~

I also participated in a signature campaign for a few weeks ran by Lauda when i was just a full member and never had any problems in receiving timely updates as well as the BTC. So I have my reasons from trusting them.

I'm asking with a completely friendly approach. Because none of the above explanations satisfy me. Because I did not go as far as to speak in a language I do not know to defend any person before. I have a hard time understanding someone who does this. Please explain to us. Why are you here and why do you really need to defend that unnecessary person?

just for your own education I will respond 1 time to your brainwashed indoctrination,

I was actually congratulated by many people in private for my intellectual comments regarding the entire Yobit affair, go to that accusation thread and read them again, I'm almost certain you also will agree with most of my points.

And yet, at least 3 defamation threads were opened against me, using Yobit as an excuse, right around the time of ChipMixer applications, because the inner circle was well aware I was short listed to be selected (or at the very least always top rival in their perception because of the outstanding quality of my messages and my independent tone in general)...

So please don't try to rewrite history, when the cases of corruption and defamation have been already discussed and proven beyond a shadow of doubt multiple times.

TECHSHARE, ırkçı öfkeye karşı makul yargılar üretti. Sizin aksinize adil görüşler belirtti. Yazdığı yargıları beğendim. Trust listeme ekledim. Daha doğal ne olabilir? 10 gün sonra sildim. Başkalarını da ekleyip kaldırabilirim.
CM kampanyasına katıldığımda bunu gündeme getirdirdiler. 7 ay sonra! Sadece beni hedef aldı. Tesadüf mü? Tabi ki değil!

Peki sen neden lauda'yı destekliyorsun? Ayrıca avukatı mısın onun? Irkçı öfkeye sahip birisinin yargılarına nasıl güvenebiliyorsun? Senin gibi şüpheli hesaplar ona güveniyor. Sistemi kötüye kullanan birisi o. Bu yüzden DT kara listesine alındı. Bunu bildiğine eminim.

İyilik ile kal.

...
Now, the situation has become so complex that it is hard to know who to trust.Similarly, Visipilio got dropped from DT-1 after his very public statements about him not being responsible if people click on scams due to him. His image got spoiled due to some of these remarks and people in DT-1 acquired a bias against him. People do not want someone who will take such things lightly to be on DT-1.

That is when, Visipilio has started opening threads about DT-1 conspiracy, need for turkish users to unite and now he has gone a step ahead and is playing into the hands of the same trolls who want to damage BTC by saying things like "Blockstream conspiracy" etc etc.
...

Thanks Koincik. I would love to. I have noticed that there have been posts from Visipilio, wolwoo etc that seem to portray two things:
1. Some anti-turkish sentiment in global
2. DT-1 conspiracy involving Lauda etc.

I have no affiliations to any of them. I have explained in my earlier post that why i trust Lauda and why i think they are doing a good job at controlling scams on the forum. In my opinion, every single account on the forum should be an independent,actual thinking member who is interested in bitcoin and should contribute towards bitcoin ecosystem in their own small ways. When people see the forum only as a point of earning money, that defeats the purpose. People make alt-accounts or bring in their friends for bounties and exchange merit so that they can continue farming. When any evidence of such collusion comes to light, people justify it by saying that "we are only doing it to earn honestly". When campaigns like "Yobit" pop up, people post like mad making 20 posts a day to earn money and then go completely silent. I see that as detrimental to the forum as well as to the bitcoin ecosystem in general. People like Lauda actually put the effort to identify such scamming/ spammy accounts. Hence, they have my unstinted support. I am not some highly placed member. I am just some guy who joined the forum in 2017 and have been just trying to actually get involved in BTC in whatever way i can. I DO NOT support Lauda using terms like "Turkish Monkey". If they were a personal friend, i would personally castigate them for it., Yet, freedom of speech and this being internet means I don't gain anything by doing that.

I followed visipilio and wolwoo's post and got to know about the drama that happened with Kalemder selection into Chipmixer. On the face of it, mutual inclusions with TECHSHARE were questioned there and no decent explanation ever came forth at that time. Now, the situation has become so complex that it is hard to know who to trust.Similarly, Visipilio got dropped from DT-1 after his very public statements about him not being responsible if people click on scams due to him. His image got spoiled due to some of these remarks and people in DT-1 acquired a bias against him. People do not want someone who will take such things lightly to be on DT-1.

That is when, Visipilio has started opening threads about DT-1 conspiracy, need for turkish users to unite and now he has gone a step ahead and is playing into the hands of the same trolls who want to damage BTC by saying things like "Blockstream conspiracy" etc etc. This is too much. I think he is misguiding Turkish users for his own rating issues. When in reality, he should be taking it up only with the people those ratings come from.

I have no interest except a certain feeling that the damage to Satoshi's  forum or the damage to BTC is a loss for each and every on of us. We all as individuals have to help and grow the BTC ecosystem. We do it through individual contributions and initiatives, however small they maybe. It may be that i am misunderstanding Visipilio. Maybe some of you know him personally and have traded worth thousands with him and want to trust him. That is completely your own decision. I am not here to persuade anyone to trust lauda, wolwoo, visipilio or anyone. To me, you are all fellow human beings and i am only judging by what i see. I try not to be biased but then we may disagree on what constitutes a meritocracy.

I have to translate posts to answer some of you. I have some free time and I think Visipilio, who is very eloquent is not being fair by trying to propagate such misinformation about DT-cliques or Blockstream conspiracies. This is a disservice and a net negative to the forum. Thus, I just came here. I do have things to do and will stop when I don't have enough time or motivation. Ultimately, its for our Turkish brothers to decide.

Kalemder, in that "mutual trust" incident, did you have any reason to include TECHSHARE or it was just a mutual agreement that you agreed to because of thinking that it is normal?