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grapefruitninja

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Just saw this.

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Monero block 0bf50dbacb59f0f0a5225b69ec95a69caef9bc0dc20403bbd96ce92390eacca3

Height?	<226772>
Timestamp (UTC)?	2014-09-21 00:13:41 (13 minutes ago)
Difficulty?	1,468,634,478

Monero block 4cf11cd2d980721e4738c0887352bc5a580e2f1824c644ac2401051f2e553431

Height?	<226773>
Timestamp (UTC)?	2014-09-21 00:13:31 (14 minutes ago)
Difficulty?	1,468,261,327
Orphan?	no

Looks like FUD. As far as I know timestamp exceed 1hr will never make it in, nor can it be less than median of last N blocks so we notice in advance?

Anyone can comment?

vuduchyld

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Quote from: mmortal03 on September 20, 2014, 08:33:10 PM

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Quote from: nutildah on September 20, 2014, 07:15:14 PM

so y'all promonero guys are assuming that BCX's 500 BTC bet is false? and that Moneroman88 didn't actually goad BCX into wanting to find an exploit in Monero?

it seems like thats what happened to me. funny how all the other moderated monero threads are silent on this whole affair.

thats because you are Moneroman88

I hate to be potentially feeding a troll, but if there were 500 BTC in escrow, where's the evidence of this?

I don't think they got that far. BCX offered it up. I'm sure they could both come up with it and work out the escrow if the agreement was struck, but it wasn't.

Edit: just to be clear, I'm only guessing, here, not trying to speak for anybody actually involved.

Karl Hungus

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Is it confirmed that FascistMint is helping the monero developers, or is he needing payment first? I'm confused

mmortal03

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Quote from: nutildah on September 20, 2014, 07:15:14 PM

so y'all promonero guys are assuming that BCX's 500 BTC bet is false? and that Moneroman88 didn't actually goad BCX into wanting to find an exploit in Monero?

it seems like thats what happened to me. funny how all the other moderated monero threads are silent on this whole affair.

thats because you are Moneroman88

I hate to be potentially feeding a troll, but if there were 500 BTC in escrow, where's the evidence of this?

vuduchyld

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Quote from: Cryptobro on September 20, 2014, 08:28:11 PM

Quote from: vuduchyld on September 20, 2014, 08:19:47 PM

On the flipside, if he can help prevent the attack, it certainly will (already has) taken a bunch of his time--for which he is probably right to seek some kind of compensation.

A agree completely and have no problem with him getting compensation, my problem is with the way he's gone about it.

It has unfolded in a strange and unlikely way, that's for sure!

AKWAnalytics

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: vuduchyld on September 20, 2014, 08:21:20 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: fluffypony on September 20, 2014, 07:58:47 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it. My theory is bcx proved it to them and then did not pass on the fix.

We absolutely have NOT said that. We know virtually NONE of the details of the claimed exploit.

So far all that third-parties have produced is a rehash of the research done and released as part of MRL-0001, which can be found here: http://lab.monero.cc/pubs/MRL-0001.pdf

So if you guys are so sure that it is all FUD, why then did rpietila decline to accept bcx 500 BTC challenge? Seems like an easy 500 BTC to me.

It's an asymmetrical information proposition. Why would anybody risk $200K on that? I'm sure he's got plenty riding on the outcome as it is.

More like it is because rpietila has more faith in bcx proven history than than his devs.

Honk if you hate Trolls!

5w00p

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Risto not taking the bet doesn't prove anything.

If I email Warren Buffet and say that I put $200,000 on Berkshire-Hathaway closing below $140 a share at the closing bell on Monday, will he take my bet?

And he doesn't take the bet, does that mean anything?

No, it means he doesn't feel like messing with such a trivial little quibble of a wager, as he has better things to do and bigger fish to fry.

Cryptobro

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Quote from: vuduchyld on September 20, 2014, 08:19:47 PM

On the flipside, if he can help prevent the attack, it certainly will (already has) taken a bunch of his time--for which he is probably right to seek some kind of compensation.

A agree completely and have no problem with him getting compensation, my problem is with the way he's gone about it.

vuduchyld

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: fluffypony on September 20, 2014, 07:58:47 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it. My theory is bcx proved it to them and then did not pass on the fix.

We absolutely have NOT said that. We know virtually NONE of the details of the claimed exploit.

So far all that third-parties have produced is a rehash of the research done and released as part of MRL-0001, which can be found here: http://lab.monero.cc/pubs/MRL-0001.pdf

So if you guys are so sure that it is all FUD, why then did rpietila decline to accept bcx 500 BTC challenge? Seems like an easy 500 BTC to me.

It's an asymmetrical information proposition. Why would anybody risk $200K on that? I'm sure he's got plenty riding on the outcome as it is.

vuduchyld

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Quote from: Cryptobro on September 20, 2014, 08:13:10 PM

Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 20, 2014, 01:47:26 PM

I probably did the wrong thing and should have only announced my discovery to the developers, so it could be vetted privately first. But my first reaction was how to short because if a coin killer I could earn a lot more. As I realized there is probably mitigation and also as I realized that to short I would be borrowing from the longs who are deep pocketed, that I couldn't win a shorting battle unless it was a fight to the finish and I have no desire to fight with my friend Risto nor the other developers I would like to work with in the future.

So the wisest action is to sell my insight to them if I am correct. Let them work on mitigation.

Wow, what a load of horse shit this is.

First you decide not to short because you realise you'll be profiting from a friends loss, you then decide a better course of action would be to extort the devs, while announcing to the public you have an exploit...and you know full well what that will lead to a dump...which in turn will also result in a friends loss...but hey, they can deal with that right?... you're the good guy in all this right?

So much for being an upstanding member of this community...dick.

On the flipside, if he can help prevent the attack, it certainly will (already has) taken a bunch of his time--for which he is probably right to seek some kind of compensation.

surfer43

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"Trading Platform of The Future!"

Quote from: BldSwtTrs on September 20, 2014, 08:08:37 PM

What's the point to announce a deadline if he's not asking for anything?

To retain the FUD's credibility. Wink

Cryptobro

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Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 20, 2014, 01:47:26 PM

I probably did the wrong thing and should have only announced my discovery to the developers, so it could be vetted privately first. But my first reaction was how to short because if a coin killer I could earn a lot more. As I realized there is probably mitigation and also as I realized that to short I would be borrowing from the longs who are deep pocketed, that I couldn't win a shorting battle unless it was a fight to the finish and I have no desire to fight with my friend Risto nor the other developers I would like to work with in the future.

So the wisest action is to sell my insight to them if I am correct. Let them work on mitigation.

Wow, what a load of horse shit this is.

First you decide not to short because you realise you'll be profiting from a friends loss, you then decide a better course of action would be to extort the devs, while announcing to the public you have an exploit...and you know full well what that will lead to a dump...which in turn will also result in a friends loss...but hey, they can deal with that right?... you're the good guy in all this right?

So much for being an upstanding member of this community...dick.

BldSwtTrs

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What's the point to announce a deadline if he's not asking for anything?

akujin

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Nice dump

Nxtblg

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Quote from: Triffin on September 20, 2014, 05:56:22 PM

It will be interesting to watch XMR price explode
should this turn out to be pickle smoke ..

Triff [email protected]

Yep, it's popcorn time. The Big Shew is a go...

fluffypony

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it. My theory is bcx proved it to them and then did not pass on the fix.

We absolutely have NOT said that. We know virtually NONE of the details of the claimed exploit.

So far all that third-parties have produced is a rehash of the research done and released as part of MRL-0001, which can be found here: http://lab.monero.cc/pubs/MRL-0001.pdf

smooth

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Quote from: nakaone on September 20, 2014, 07:47:23 PM

Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2014, 07:44:58 PM

Quote from: tx42 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:27 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it.

Citation needed.

It didn't happen. TheFascistMind reported that he had an idea that would result in a reduction of anonymity (similar to one we have already disclosed). He has a number of other ideas and we are looking into them.

No one has acknowledged that any specific BCX exploit is real because we don't even necessarily know what it is. We know of some things that could possibly lead to exploits. Not the same thing at all.

I darkly remember that he spoke about an exploit in july as well - do you know if it is the same stuff he is talking about right now?

I have no idea.

nakaone

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Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2014, 07:44:58 PM

Quote from: tx42 on September 20, 2014, 07:39:27 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it.

Citation needed.

It didn't happen. TheFascistMind reported that he had an idea that would result in a reduction of anonymity (similar to one we have already disclosed). He has a number of other ideas and we are looking into them.

No one has acknowledged that any specific BCX exploit is real because we don't even necessarily know what it is. We know of some things that could possibly lead to exploits. Not the same thing at all.

I darkly remember that he spoke about an exploit in july as well - do you know if it is the same stuff he is talking about right now?

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

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Quote from: SumthngsWrong on September 20, 2014, 07:33:27 PM

Quote from: Moneroman88 on September 20, 2014, 07:26:44 PM

you're idiots if you're selling your XMR... BITCOINEXPRESS IS BUYING WHAT YOU DUMP

don't you get it, weak hands? there is no exploit...

Oh, there is an exploit, but you may be partially correct. DooMAD is totally correct.

Quote from: DooMAD on September 20, 2014, 07:26:35 PM

Pretty sure the only exploit here is people's willingness to panic sell based on a few forum posts and a message in a trollbox. Roll Eyes

Just one problem with your theory. The Monero devs, Anonymint and even rpietila have acknowledged bcx exploit is real and they are working on fixing it. My theory is bcx proved it to them and then did not pass on the fix.

Anonymint makes a mountain out of every molehill going. I can't take him seriously at all. He's poured fuel on the fire based on nothing more than a vague hunch before he's even taken a close look at it to see if there is actually a problem. Bunch of people crying wolf over nothing.

louiseth1

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Lol, here he strikes again.

BCX is the guy who made all that fud with KGW coins, claiming an exploit he was never able to demonstrate.

This is an entertainment thread, more close to FUD than Fact.

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