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legendary
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June 05, 2019, 02:18:20 PM
#97
There are so many countries in the world where people do not know the meaning of democracy word !! Such as North Korean. In my opinion , Democracy helps to make a good decision and the difference between the wrong and the right.When a child encounters some problem and tries to solve it then it is bad, if his parents allow him with democracy then he won't had such issues. !!!
Parents, children and democracy ? Tongue

How about a single parent with two children? I would love to see their democracy Tongue

That's why probably all countries have an age of majority.     Cool
full member
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June 05, 2019, 12:55:53 PM
#96
There are so many countries in the world where people do not know the meaning of democracy word !! Such as North Korean. In my opinion , Democracy helps to make a good decision and the difference between the wrong and the right.When a child encounters some problem and tries to solve it then it is bad, if his parents allow him with democracy then he won't had such issues. !!!
Parents, children and democracy ? Tongue

How about a single parent with two children? I would love to see their democracy Tongue
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
June 05, 2019, 08:38:36 AM
#95
There are so many countries in the world where people do not know the meaning of democracy word !! Such as North Korean. In my opinion , Democracy helps to make a good decision and the difference between the wrong and the right.When a child encounters some problem and tries to solve it then it is bad, if his parents allow him with democracy then he won't had such issues. !!!
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
June 05, 2019, 07:19:00 AM
#94
Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

Even in it, the system is broken. Let's say California has 100 people in it and has 50 electorate seats. 51 voted for Hillary and 49 for trump. Wouldn't it be mob justice to give all the 50 seats of California to Hillary? Or say Texas has 50 seats and 51 voted for trump and thus trump gets all 50 seats of Texas. How about alloting number of seats in proportional to percentage of voters from a state?

^^^ This is kinda the point of simple libertarianism.

In the State of 100 people, if there is a 51 to 49 vote, let the 51 have whomever they voted for, and let the 49 have whomever they voted for.

Then, let the 26 of the 51 have whomever they voted for, and the 25 of the 51 have whomever they voted for... and let the 25 of the 49 have whomever they voted for, and the 24 of the 49 have whomever they voted for.

Keep on going with this until every person is his own government... except in one thing. The person who harms some other person loses his rights and personal governance inasmuch as he harmed the other. But it has to be real harm... not some silly thing like saying a simple racist word, except when saying it really harms someone... not some silly emotional hurt feelings because the one hurt should really stop off at his shrink's office for a long visit.

Cool

Lol.
 
I don't disagree. By your point, I conclude that there can't be any ideal democracy because at the end, it's mob rule and majority will have a say even if majority is wrong.
Democracy has so many flaws that we neglect haha.

In the end, in a large democracy, the people voted into office hire others from the public to help them. Often they even contract from outside the country - like in the U.S. government they hire Thompsons from Canada to make codes out of the laws they pass, so that we follow codes, not laws. Then they act like a group dictator over both, the 51 and the 49, doing things and making laws that neither side wanted.

Not so "Lol" after all.

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June 05, 2019, 01:43:18 AM
#93
1. Vote for myself yes? and my pay myself, make the rules
2. Let other people vote for me? and pay them, they make the rules

option 1 seems the most logical.



Otherwise you get fucks who have spent 104 million on golf trips rather than housing the homeless and feeding all the working class for life.
legendary
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June 04, 2019, 11:50:41 PM
#92
Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

Even in it, the system is broken. Let's say California has 100 people in it and has 50 electorate seats. 51 voted for Hillary and 49 for trump. Wouldn't it be mob justice to give all the 50 seats of California to Hillary? Or say Texas has 50 seats and 51 voted for trump and thus trump gets all 50 seats of Texas. How about alloting number of seats in proportional to percentage of voters from a state?

^^^ This is kinda the point of simple libertarianism.

In the State of 100 people, if there is a 51 to 49 vote, let the 51 have whomever they voted for, and let the 49 have whomever they voted for.

Then, let the 26 of the 51 have whomever they voted for, and the 25 of the 51 have whomever they voted for... and let the 25 of the 49 have whomever they voted for, and the 24 of the 49 have whomever they voted for.

Keep on going with this until every person is his own government... except in one thing. The person who harms some other person loses his rights and personal governance inasmuch as he harmed the other. But it has to be real harm... not some silly thing like saying a simple racist word, except when saying it really harms someone... not some silly emotional hurt feelings because the one hurt should really stop off at his shrink's office for a long visit.

Cool
jr. member
Activity: 135
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June 04, 2019, 07:45:09 PM
#91
Ofcourse, democracy is our best item. Vote DEMOCRATS if you are for democracy, vote REPUBLICANS if you are for republic. Easy  Cool
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June 04, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
#90
Yes able you to do things freewill.an ex. In voting,working night,graveyard,having a party and enjoy freely.
people humanity are the power in the country.
you can do what ever you want as long as you follow all the laws been done under the democracy  countries.
Yes to democracy.
legendary
Activity: 3374
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May 08, 2019, 01:14:47 PM
#89
I cannot live in a country where democracy doesn't exist. Never!!!! There are most times you would want to voice out issues that are very pressing and through democracy, you will be there to hit up.

Many people don't have free choice like you and me.
They are born in some place, belong to some nationality sex or religion, and can't avoid it.
So, democracy is mostly about freedom, free choices etc.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 05, 2019, 03:45:56 PM
#88
The more they vaccinate us, the more we are finding out that you won't live in any country that vaccinates.


Merck FAKED mumps vaccine research



This is a cut and dried scientific and economic fraud funded by a likely bribed USA government.  there is zero grey area in the whole situation.  The whistle blowers were part of the scheme.
 
I do want you to understand something.  The whole Vaccine racket will be crushed late this year. This specifically gives us the core case in black and white.  If you are an investor, this looks grim for Merck. 
 
Have you been watching the corporate marriage of Bayer and Monsanto?  Roundup is now destroying both of them while the chinese continue pushing the chemicals, now out of patent.
 
Expect all the Vaccine laws to be repealed with prejudice....

1       Consider that it is reasonable to posit that all infectious disease collapsed thanks to universal access to clean water and sanitation.
2       Consider that the Spanish flue was a failed vaccination experiment.
3       Consider that Merck is running a fraud.
4       Consider that the gold rush underway merely recklessly increases dosages of foreign agents into the blood stream.

You see the emerging picture?  What still appears tangible keeps fading away.  Successes are possible for local events judiciously applied.  The big successes were the application of cow pox to prevent human small pox.  Do the rest have a similar clear biological pathway to success?


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May 04, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
#87
I cannot live in a country where democracy doesn't exist. Never!!!! There are most times you would want to voice out issues that are very pressing and through democracy, you will be there to hit up.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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May 03, 2019, 10:25:02 AM
#86
Have you ever heard of hacking electronic voting machines to manipulate the vote?

Do you remember the name "Joseph Stalin?" He ruled in Russia in the 1900s. He murdered as many as 100 million of his own people.

Consider the following quote, widely attributed to the USSR's Communist leader Joseph Stalin: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." At first blush, it seems curious as to why a totalitarian dictator, who never had to stand for public election, would even care about votes at all. But is it just another net hoax, or could the quote have some context to actually be attributed to the strongarm leader?

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Variations on the Stalin Quote

It bears noting that more than one version of the attributed statement exists. For example, this more formal variant is cited at least as often as the one we've been discussing: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything."

One historical source for a version of the quote comes from Boris Bazhanov's "Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary," published in 1980 in Paris and 2002 in Moscow and appearing to be available only in French and in Russian.

The pertinent passage, which appears near the end of chapter five, reads as follows (loosely translated with the help of Google):

"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how." A search of the Stalin Internet Library yielded nothing resembling the quote in the Soviet leader's published writings, though the possibility remains that it could have been excerpted from an unpublished speech or private conversation.

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Christ The King
May 03, 2019, 04:31:15 AM
#85
Someone once stated that the problem of democracy is that "It's a majority vote that decides the leader and majority can be wrong", this I read from one of Dr Myles Munroe publications. While Sir Wilson Churchill inferred that  "democracy is the worst form of government apart from the rest". Democracy may lead to sycophantic leader been elected in a multi ethic country, this way, the best may never get to power, sometimes they just sell lies to the people. Although most world population think and believe democracy is the best form of government.
newbie
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May 03, 2019, 03:45:49 AM
#84
Thing is, that many people do not understand the word "democracy". Democracy is not about running elections to give authority to a small group of people. The only democracy is a direct democracy where all people has an influence on any decision. This kind of democracy is the purest, though extremely expensive to implement. Like, imagine having a referendum each day on multiple questions. Maybe blockchain and internet is the solution after all.
legendary
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May 02, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
#83
There is no perfect type of government, but I do prefer democracy over any others.  At least democracy give the people a voice in how they should be governed.  
People can determine who lead them in democracy and I strongly believe that during democracy country do wetness growth and development compared to other form of government.  If the whole world embracing democracy we would have developments and the level of poverty will reduce.

If you like the idea of sociopaths and psychopaths in government, pick socialism.

If you like the idea of sociopaths and psychopaths in business, pick democracy.

Any other questions?
legendary
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Merit: 1373
May 02, 2019, 08:54:18 PM
#82
^^^ Guess what. If you have a leader, you aren't self-governing.     Cool
sr. member
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May 02, 2019, 03:57:44 PM
#81
There is no perfect type of government, but I do prefer democracy over any others.  At least democracy give the people a voice in how they should be governed. 
People can determine who lead them in democracy and I strongly believe that during democracy country do wetness growth and development compared to other form of government.  If the whole world embracing democracy we would have developments and the level of poverty will reduce.
legendary
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May 02, 2019, 11:24:32 AM
#80
^^^ Which people does the power belong to in a Democracy? Doesn't it look like the power belongs to the majority because of the vote? This means that the minority doesn't have the power. So, the minority doesn't have self governance. But that isn't democratic, is it?

On top of that, the power of the majority in a place like the USA isn't exercised by the majority. Who is it exercised by? It's exercised by the tiny group of people in government, the representatives, who are given the power of the majority, to fulfill the requirements that the majority dictate.

But do these reps follow the dictates of the majority? Sometimes. But often they don't. And you can tell by the fact that they are all voted out of office now and again. The point is, neither the minority OR the majority have the power in a Democracy. Who has the power in a Democracy? The handful of representatives running the government have the power.

What does this mean? It means that a Democracy is Dictatorship-by-a-Group rather than Dictatorship-by-one-person.

Do you like Democracy? If so, you like Dictatorship.

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May 02, 2019, 06:37:07 AM
#79
Democracy in it true spirit is a government for the people by the people according to Abraham Lincoln, and in an ideal Democratic state the power belong to the people which is how it suppose to be any thing outside that can be term non Democratic. But many nations practicing democracy today never obey this fundamental rule of the system but despite that the worst form of democracy is far better then dictatorship so democracy continues I say yes to democracy.
jr. member
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Merit: 107
May 01, 2019, 08:53:59 PM
#78
It actually depends... In 2019 many people have very different understanding of the term, so, this word should be used carefully. For one democracy is *i dont care about anyone* for other is something more polite
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