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Quote from: coins4commies on February 14, 2019, 07:17:11 PM

Quote from: cizatext on February 14, 2019, 03:21:27 PM

Democracy is the government of the people for the people and by the people, in a Democratic government the people are at the central of the whole process and they decide who govern them. The people hold they representative accountable for they action either good or bad.

Another definition of republic.

Does anyone know what democracy is?

The difference between democracy and a republic can be boiled down to the rules by which the government is limited. A republic gives domain to the legislature to act within proscribed boundaries. A democracy is majority rule to do whatever the majority is so inclined to do.

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Quote from: cizatext on February 14, 2019, 03:21:27 PM

Democracy is the government of the people for the people and by the people, in a Democratic government the people are at the central of the whole process and they decide who govern them. The people hold they representative accountable for they action either good or bad.

Another definition of republic.

Does anyone know what democracy is?

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Quote from: cizatext on February 14, 2019, 03:21:27 PM

Democracy is the government of the people for the people and by the people, in a Democratic government the people are at the central of the whole process and they decide who govern them. The people hold they representative accountable for they action either good or bad.

I wish it was like that. In most countries you democratically vote for your representatives who feeds you lies before the election and later fail to accomplish anything but it's too late for you to change anything. The only thing you can do is wait for another election and vote for someone else who will repeat the same promises and again show you the middle finger once he gets elected. The beauty of democracy and voting.

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Democracy is the government of the people for the people and by the people, in a Democratic government the people are at the central of the whole process and they decide who govern them. The people hold they representative accountable for they action either good or bad.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

And who writes the constitution?
I mean if you build a new government, who gets to decide what's in the constitution?

The Constitution was written by guys who were supposed to be updating the Articles of Confederation. These guys simply wrote the Constitution, on their own, without authorization by the people. Then, they used their authority to present the Constitution rather than their updates to the Articles of Confederation. The people barely caught on to what they were doing, and it is almost a miracle (good miracle? bad miracle?) that the constitution caught on.

Write your own Constitution. The Constitution allows anybody to write their own Constitution. It's upheld in the 1st Amendment... freedom of speech.

There are lots of new governments right in America. Don't tell me that every corporation doesn't have a government. All corporations operate by their own internal government. If a corporate government was good enough, and received enough publicity, and the people of the USA thought that their corporate Constitution was better, we just might get a complete change of government.

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Democracy is freedom of rights in opinion and prioritizing ideas or ideas born of different views summarized for the benefit of many people or for a clean and free country from an authoritarian policy by establishing relations with several institutionsthe government to create citizens' life guidelines by guaranteeing their rights. With a transparent election process, it will determine reliable leaders who are responsible and wise in making decisions, so that democracy is better than non-democratic onesmaking authoritarian leaders of power,

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

And who writes the constitution?
I mean if you build a new government, who gets to decide what's in the constitution?

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Quote from: manishanand on February 13, 2019, 02:46:00 AM

Demerits of democracy :
1)Leaders keep on changing leads to instability
2)It is all about political competition and power play
3)Elected leaders do not know the best interests of people
4)Democracy leads to corruption.

So which country would you prefer a democratic or non-democratic ?

All of these demerits are about republic and not democracy. It seems you have the two confused.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

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Winston Churchill once said - "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

Obviously he is referring to a Constitutional Republic though, but I just wanted to stress that.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2019, 09:25:19 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 13, 2019, 05:56:53 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2019, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

democracy is pointless trash, if all the businesses, craftsmen, etc. give a damn about the elections.

because thats what cryptocapitalism is causing. it removes the purchasing power from the elected officials.

but that can be also a good thing. just look at american democracy its effectively a democracy of the rich. and their media gimmicks

the social mood of a society can also be measured with other means, not constant pointless massmedia lobbyism influenced elections.

look at uk or us democracies they are 50+-1% elections, the queen should just throw a coin, would save a lot of work.

The benefit of Democracy is that it forms a special kind of political Dictatorship, and the people don't even realize it. If the dictatorial group want to keep the people thinking that it's a democracy, they have to offer a lot of freedom, and use some very subtle dictatorial action. So, the people get the benefit anyway.

It's still not nearly as good as the USA people have it... where a jury can nullify anything that government does.

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jes of course. who controls the financial system in a democracy?

thats the true master, everyone else is a debt slave as he is forced to ask for permission of power.

You don't need to be a debt slave. I know many people who are debt free. Outside of my mortgage on a multi-unit building I am debt free. I have no credit card debt. Never had a student loan.

Being a debt slave is a matter of choice for most people (in the US). I can't speak for other places.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 13, 2019, 05:56:53 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2019, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

democracy is pointless trash, if all the businesses, craftsmen, etc. give a damn about the elections.

because thats what cryptocapitalism is causing. it removes the purchasing power from the elected officials.

but that can be also a good thing. just look at american democracy its effectively a democracy of the rich. and their media gimmicks

the social mood of a society can also be measured with other means, not constant pointless massmedia lobbyism influenced elections.

look at uk or us democracies they are 50+-1% elections, the queen should just throw a coin, would save a lot of work.

The benefit of Democracy is that it forms a special kind of political Dictatorship, and the people don't even realize it. If the dictatorial group want to keep the people thinking that it's a democracy, they have to offer a lot of freedom, and use some very subtle dictatorial action. So, the people get the benefit anyway.

It's still not nearly as good as the USA people have it... where a jury can nullify anything that government does.

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jes of course. who controls the financial system in a democracy?

thats the true master, everyone else is a debt slave as he is forced to ask for permission of power.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2019, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

democracy is pointless trash, if all the businesses, craftsmen, etc. give a damn about the elections.

because thats what cryptocapitalism is causing. it removes the purchasing power from the elected officials.

but that can be also a good thing. just look at american democracy its effectively a democracy of the rich. and their media gimmicks

the social mood of a society can also be measured with other means, not constant pointless massmedia lobbyism influenced elections.

look at uk or us democracies they are 50+-1% elections, the queen should just throw a coin, would save a lot of work.

The benefit of Democracy is that it forms a special kind of political Dictatorship, and the people don't even realize it. If the dictatorial group want to keep the people thinking that it's a democracy, they have to offer a lot of freedom, and use some very subtle dictatorial action. So, the people get the benefit anyway.

It's still not nearly as good as the USA people have it... where a jury can nullify anything that government does.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

democracy is pointless trash, if all the businesses, craftsmen, etc. give a damn about the elections.

because thats what cryptocapitalism is causing. it removes the purchasing power from the elected officials.

but that can be also a good thing. just look at american democracy its effectively a democracy of the rich. and their media gimmicks

the social mood of a society can also be measured with other means, not constant pointless massmedia lobbyism influenced elections.

look at uk or us democracies they are 50+-1% elections, the queen should just throw a coin, would save a lot of work.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 13, 2019, 05:05:07 PM

Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

I agree. Since the right to privacy is built right into the Constitution, the Amendments, many laws, and 70 major Supreme Court cases, we need to emphasize it to get illegally acting government and law enforcement officials off our backs. This is what is being done, slowly, through the private membership associations (PMA).

I predict that if the economy continues roughly the same over the next 12 months, we are going to see an explosion of PMAs.

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Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

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Almost every form of government that is called Democracy, is also some other forms added in.

For example. In the USA, the democracy when electing a president, is the voting the Electoral College does. The Electoral College people are supposed to vote like the people of their district want them to, but they don't always do it. And they are seldomly called to account when they don't.

So, the representative form of government where the Electoral College represents people, isn't democracy. But most people think it is.

In other areas of Government, there might be direct voting by the people in democratic fashion. However, the jury can override any laws that governmental officials make. So the hidden government is really something other than a democracy.

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Quote from: manishanand on February 13, 2019, 02:46:00 AM

Here are some merits of democracy :
1)It is more accountable
2)The elected leaders need to perform better for their stability
3)Gives the people right to choose among the best
4)It enhances the dignity of a citizen

Demerits of democracy :
1)Leaders keep on changing leads to instability
2)It is all about political competition and power play
3)Elected leaders do not know the best interests of people
4)Democracy leads to corruption.

So which country would you prefer a democratic or non-democratic ?

There are a lot of different types of democracies, and I can't tell which types you are attempting to compare. Are you referring to Athenian democracy, where all laws and policies are voted on by the populous? Are you referring to a democratically elected officials, or representative democracy? Do you even know what the word democracy means? I'm not sure you do.

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Here are some merits of democracy :
1)It is more accountable
2)The elected leaders need to perform better for their stability
3)Gives the people right to choose among the best
4)It enhances the dignity of a citizen

Demerits of democracy :
1)Leaders keep on changing leads to instability
2)It is all about political competition and power play
3)Elected leaders do not know the best interests of people
4)Democracy leads to corruption.

So which country would you prefer a democratic or non-democratic ?

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