Topic: Devcoin - page 129. (Read 412952 times)

Yes, you can!

Since devcoin.org could never be taken serously,
devda.ch mainpage gonna serve exactly that need https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1110708

• Exchange Rates
• DVC Stock exchange
• Funded Projects
• Free Devcoins
• Devcoin "Ebay"
• Devcoin Auditorium (bigbluebutton based)
• Project documentation (redmine based)

But all this depends in this very moment, on the head of the DEVCOIN Project. If there shouldnt be found any democratic koherence in the head of the project, to use of Devcoin for the DEVDA Project is obsolete.

I've heard about devcoin a while ago, but started looking closer only now. It looks really interesting, but I find it hard to find up-to-date and coherent information, as wiki articles are often self-contradictory.

If I understand correctly, current policy is this:


But is it actually the case? From what Unthinkingbit posts it looks like things are funded on case-to-cases basis.

Is there, like, a summary of what is currently funded? Like, 70% goes to such and such project.

I know there are some csv files, but it's kinda hard to "parse" them and figure out what goes where.

What's about current eligibility criteria?

Let's say I work on colored coins p2p exchange, is related to bitcoin. Can I get some devcoin generation share for this?

What's about projects which generate devcoin revenue, is there a list of bounties, or simply anything relevant is funded?

Please don't take it as criticism, but just as a friendly recommendation from an outsider who has a fresh look on things:

Make one page with basic information and summary, like:

• brief description of concept and mission
• what currently gets funded (summary, break down, examples)
• capitalization, how much it money it generates
• eligibility, current bounties

And specifically WITHOUT old and too detailed information.

I think only a very dedicated person would read 50 pages of forums to learn how it actually works, majority would simply ignore it if it's too vague.

So one good no-bullshit page might seriously help with devcoin popularity.

As I understand, wiki maintenance is one of major devcoin projects, so it shouldn't be a problem to find people to maintain just one page with up-to-date information.

Sorry but i have to hold against it, what economy when there wouldnt be any miner who would mine for devcoin or even bitcoins ?? what do i throw away when i solo mine bitcoin? Is the profitability of a chain the reason to hash it, or is it the participation in this unique worldwide experiment only caused by profit? What profit the first miners made? How many miners made real profit? Doesnt do the centralized mines the profit?? No Hashpower but 3 -7 % mining fee?
Its profit the only motivation for running a mine and support the blockchain?? When we talk about profit, to mine for coins is not realy the right way to make profit. You calculate with the exchange rate and thats wrong, by now you prefer to as mainchain bitcoin only cause of the exchange rate? What profit made guys who mined i0 or ixcoin wasnt that allso a waste of energy?
Hypotheticaly spoken when devcoin or any other altcoin exchange rate would surpass the value of 1 bitcoin im quite sure you wouldnt object my proposal, you would be the first that would go along with it, im sure.
But we are dev's not dealers, personaly i mine for the sake of the chains, profit is not realy doable, but didnt you made a huge profit out of a dvc based biz? (Total dividends paid: 15 856 112.77 DVC since 18.8.2012) more then avarage 5 mio DVC per month! And do you think that was produced trough mining only (BTC or DVC)?. No it wasnt, that profit was made out of generousity! How many of the devcoin devs are generous?  Or you just mine out of profit? So why my BTC mining project gives away the power of 7 FPGA when only 5 FPGA was financed by the shareholders? MINING FOR DEVCOINS BRINGS YOU 10% of the BLOCK and you call that a waste of energy well i guess you are right mining for DEVCOIN is in this case a waste of ENERGY in GENERAL, AS MINER FOR DEVCOINS YOU GET ONLY 10% of the BLOCK!!!! WHY SHOULD I GIVE YOU MY HASPOWER you take 90% of it and what do i have from it as miner, doesnt you profit??  ... Is that just me that smels the incoherence?? Without the basis of a direct democratic principle, mining for devcoins is a waste of time, and with people who works against development, hinder or even speak against development (call it a scam) on the head and in the receivers list of the project, this project starts to become more and more uninteresting.

Why a mine protocol has to be dependent on profit?? Since the only cost you have is the hardware and electricity.
Profit is not my main motivation, and we arnt gods, we are devs we dont have to decide what chain is hashed mainly but we need to protect and guarantee development.
To be honest how many of you guys donored there devcoins for a higher purpose? Is the mind setup to generate blocks, to dump it then for centralized money or alt chains? Never forget even Bitcoin is still a experiment, and such oposition simply prohibits development in any direction. Profit shouldnt be the braker of an experiment. Or is the reason more simple, that you doesnt like to give me the bounty for a DVC Mine? Its all in this tread guys reread please.
Sorry guys when this proposal doesnt come trough it clearly will show me that greed is mainly active in this development and i gonna have to chose my next steps according to it.

WE ARE DEVS, WE MAKE PROFIT OUT OF DEVELOPMENT!!! THAT IS WHAT DEVCOIN according to me stands for
DEV ELOPMENT backed by
DE   MOCRACY
Please think about it.

But yes i take your objection, anyone else would like to join in pro or against ? By now it is 1 to 1

I'm glad you understand that you would be throwing away the 90%+ part of the value that bitcoin gives to merge miners. Because of the waste of money I object to this option.

Mining is just a question of making as much value as possible for the miner and any shareholders. Once the money is made, then the profit can be sent as the cooperative wishes to the miner, shareholders, worthy causes, etc..

what about GNU/Hurd and Plan9?

I officialy requested a adjustment of the code of p2pool https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool in a way it would work with Devcoin as mainchain from forrestv.
Im aware of the crypto-economic situation acutaly. So there is no need to argue against it in this terminology.
I request this option, cause this would allow not only devda.ch to run a pure devcoin based p2pool with mm solo mining for all sha256 based alt chains.
Bitcoin block reward is about to become halved, maybe the economic value and hashrate will rise, maybe not, what ever it will do, its just an alt chain from my point of view to Devcoin and the financial value of it shouldnt be the main criteria for evolving this project.
I agree with other devs that we have to show up some difference, for me personaly the capability to vote democraticaly upon development is a huge difference to bitcoin. We should protect and support this!

Any objections ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_compiler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBSD

On Ubuntu the following software needs to be installed for crosscompilation:

for

for devcoin-qt please run: qmake -spec win32-x-g++ (mkspecs missing?)

for devcoind please run: i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -o makefile.linux.mingw (what cpp file has to be used to start with?)


If some of you guy's comes closer to the solution for a devcoind.exe or devcoin-qt.exe, well go for it

I suggest a 2 then 1 share bounty for Mac. A generator that makes a three would get an additional 4 shares.

Edit; the 2 share bounty was awarded:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1947022

Only the 1 share award remains.

yes

By all operating systems, do you mean Linux, Windows and Mac?

Just got another dividend payout. With the block reward halving, this is going to get crazy next week. I am thinking dvc should double in price vs btc and thus double in price on dvb in another week or so after

DIVIDEND Crazy Day !

more then 5 600 000 DVC payed today in DVB dividends.

You have my vote.

Just a suggestion, bitcoin binary is made by a universal generator for all os i was told. Why dont offer that bounty to the universal generator? And get the same security standard

You have my vote.

There's been more demand for a windows version:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1141014

so I suggest boosting the bounty from 4 to 6.

There's also been a request for a devcoin web wallet, a modification of electrum to handle devcoins would be great:
http://electrum.ecdsa.org/

I suggest a 6 then 3 generation bounty for that. It would have to be able to handle devcoins from generation.

Any objections?

Edit: The first part of the web wallet bounty has been awarded, only the 3 share award remains.

I officialy request to drop Luke-Jr from the devcoin receiver list cause of hostile activity against sha256 based chains. In my eyes it cant be, that we support this just out of fear of an 51% attack by Luke-Jr. And letting the whole devcoin project be hold hostage by a single developer on our own list.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1348417

DEVDA ist eine auf Devcoin Basis arbeitende, helvetische Genossenschaft.
DEVDA is Swiss Devcoin based legal anchored cooperative.
http://www.glari.ch:3000/projects/devda

Soon reachable @ http://devda.ch

The problem is that Cablepair has completely abandoned everything. He is not answering emails, or renewing the domain or doing anything at all. That's why Jasinlee bought devtome.com. Once Jasinlee has the wiki up, then we'll just eventually point devcoin.org to the devcoin page on the new wiki.

DVB offers to finance the domain devcoin.org in dvc.
My personal opinion is that the holder of the domain should be a cooperative (genossenschaft). Since cooperatives can be legaly registered and joined in Switzerland. A legal devcoin cooperative opens up various posibilities. The holding and financing of the domain devcoin.org would be secured this way. A cooperative would give devcoin a legal basis from the beginning of there existence. Since the devcoin discription are basicaly statutes this step is not that hard to acchive.
Everyone who would like to join that coopertative would have to bring in some knowhow for a dev status or just pay a memeber fee. Every member in a cooperative has a single voice. Conferences and conventions aswell as votings are easy doable online, we have the open source technology capable of that.

I bought up devtome.com and we are setting it up as we speak already.