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Quote from: killerstorm on April 29, 2013, 06:07:52 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 05:55:42 PM

EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 06:06:52 PM

What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...

love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 05:55:42 PM

EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

Balthozar

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 06:06:52 PM

What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...

Edit the page and hit Save. See syntax for Wiki syntax. Please edit the page only if you can improve it. If you want to test some things, learn to make your first steps on the playground.

That is at the very top when you are in page edit mode.

EDIT here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...

FinShaggy

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Quote from: MosinNagant on April 29, 2013, 06:02:15 PM

I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.

I don't think anyone is above anything. People are just people.
And what's wrong with bad jokes? Some people might want to read bad jokes.

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I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.

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It was an example to show that garbage can get more page views than something of quality, and therefore pageviews shouldn't be uses to assess the quality.

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Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 06:00:06 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 05:58:34 PM

How do you post a picture on Devtome?

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=freud_s Like I did here?

[[http://www.tinypic.com|{{http://i34.tinypic.com/15ewunl.jpg}}]]

Was the code I used

EDIT: If you ever have a question like that, click the little syntax link at the top of the editing page

Exactly...

I'm still a little confused I'll click the syntax thingy.

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Quote from: MosinNagant on April 29, 2013, 05:50:40 PM

I don't mind there being restrictions on shares given out. And I agree with the importance of quality, that said, quality will eventually rate itself through pageviews, no? I think the less artificial restrictions we place on the system, the better it will be in the end. We should be writing quality material anyway, not just to make even more money out of something that is very profitable.

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No I disagree, something can be of high quality but people may not find it interesting. I could write a page of a bunch of bad jokes that would get plenty of page views, but it wouldn't be high quality

I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 05:58:34 PM

How do you post a picture on Devtome?

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=freud_s Like I did here?

[[http://www.tinypic.com|{{http://i34.tinypic.com/15ewunl.jpg}}]]

Was the code I used

EDIT: If you ever have a question like that, click the little syntax link at the top of the editing page

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How do you post a picture on Devtome?

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 29, 2013, 05:55:42 PM

Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:52:50 PM

No I disagree, something can be of high quality but people may not find it interesting. I could write a page of a bunch of bad jokes that would get plenty of page views, but it wouldn't be high quality

EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

He gets it. Someone goes in there and posts 100 pictures found on google of cat memes, and gets a share, vs someone who spends plenty of time writing original content to get the same share. And the cat memes will always come out ahead in pageviews.

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Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:52:50 PM

No I disagree, something can be of high quality but people may not find it interesting. I could write a page of a bunch of bad jokes that would get plenty of page views, but it wouldn't be high quality

EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

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Quote from: killerstorm on April 29, 2013, 05:47:25 PM

Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:35:49 PM

Third, I do believe that there should be some incentive for quality work, but then you would have to pay someone every round to read through and place articles in a tier of their quality.

Well, again, the purpose of devtome is to attract pageviews, so one can just measure unique pageviews and give some bonus to top 10%, for example... Of course, there needs to be some quality check... But I don't think it is hard to manage such stuff...

It takes way more time to keep up with this humongous thread

Hahaha true that. I have to spend a decent amount of time catching up on this thread every time I step away from it.

Quote from: MosinNagant on April 29, 2013, 05:50:40 PM

I don't mind there being restrictions on shares given out. And I agree with the importance of quality, that said, quality will eventually rate itself through pageviews, no? I think the less artificial restrictions we place on the system, the better it will be in the end. We should be writing quality material anyway, not just to make even more money out of something that is very profitable.

No I disagree, something can be of high quality but people may not find it interesting. I could write a page of a bunch of bad jokes that would get plenty of page views, but it wouldn't be high quality

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Quote from: killerstorm on April 29, 2013, 05:47:25 PM

Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:35:49 PM

Third, I do believe that there should be some incentive for quality work, but then you would have to pay someone every round to read through and place articles in a tier of their quality.

Well, again, the purpose of devtome is to attract pageviews, so one can just measure unique pageviews and give some bonus to top 10%, for example... Of course, there needs to be some quality check... But I don't think it is hard to manage such stuff...

It takes way more time to keep up with this humongous thread

But I'd say that a popular New Released Children's Movie review would get more views than say, a paper about the economy of Russia...

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I don't mind there being restrictions on shares given out. And I agree with the importance of quality, that said, quality will eventually rate itself through pageviews, no? I think the less artificial restrictions we place on the system, the better it will be in the end. We should be writing quality material anyway, not just to make even more money out of something that is very profitable.

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Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:35:49 PM

Third, I do believe that there should be some incentive for quality work, but then you would have to pay someone every round to read through and place articles in a tier of their quality.

Well, again, the purpose of devtome is to attract pageviews, so one can just measure unique pageviews and give some bonus to top 10%, for example... Of course, there needs to be some quality check... But I don't think it is hard to manage such stuff...

It takes way more time to keep up with this humongous thread

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Quote from: Balthozar on April 29, 2013, 05:35:49 PM

Firstly, I agree with an 80,000 word limit or 80 shares per round.
Secondly, I think it is too early in the game to drop the pay rate.
Third, I do believe that there should be some incentive for quality work, but then you would have to pay someone every round to read through and place articles in a tier of their quality.
Lastly, I DON'T agree that everyone can pump out 1000 words every hour or two. My research on Sigmund Freud and Ivan Pavlov take a lot of time and effort. It's not me just writing whatever comes to mind.

80,000 Words and 80 shares is different. Bonuses should still be available in the form of:
Sign on bonus
Bounties
Admin shares
etc

And just because someone posted something in 1-2 hrs, doesn't mean it didn't take them 7 years to learn it or cost them something to experience it, and doesn't make it any less valuable in terms of development.

Balthozar

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Firstly, I agree with an 80,000 word limit or 80 shares per round.
Secondly, I think it is too early in the game to drop the pay rate.
Third, I do believe that there should be some incentive for quality work, but then you would have to pay someone every round to read through and place articles in a tier of their quality.
Lastly, I DON'T agree that everyone can pump out 1000 words every hour or two. My research on Sigmund Freud and Ivan Pavlov take a lot of time and effort. It's not me just writing whatever comes to mind.

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