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legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 17, 2012, 06:34:43 PM
Seems like a lot of people had the same idea as me:

Buy 2 shares of X for 0.6 BTC, trade them for 1 share of DMC and sell them for slightly less than 1 BTC...

I'm not really sure if you can keep up this model much longer without seriously hurting your IPO income.

I've recently answered this for someone else, so I might as well repeat it here.

Some people are viewing this premium as strictly "buy DMC for 2/3rds the cost", which is not entirely true. Up front, yes, you buy the DMC shares for that, but you give up two short term abilities: dividends (they are cut in half as per the 50% dividend/50% growth agreement in the contract), and the ability to sell (there is not a huge demand for DMC shares yet as the company is still new). If you factor in all the "lost" dividends until DMC dividends increase past what you would have originally gotten from the original bonds, it evens out in the short term.

Also, there is this other issue where if they keep buying shares to sell to me, the effective premium I paid/pay on past/future shares goes down because value increase. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, it'd help everybody in the Bitcoin world if bond prices started rising.

Still, theres a fair bit to go on that. If people want to go buy 1000 shares of something right now and trade me, it might not effect some of the bonds too much and still be worth it for them and still worth it for me.
hero member
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Ad astra.
May 17, 2012, 06:23:59 PM
Seems like a lot of people had the same idea as me:

Buy 2 shares of X for 0.6 BTC, trade them for 1 share of DMC and sell them for slightly less than 1 BTC...

I'm not really sure if you can keep up this model much longer without seriously hurting your IPO income.

I'm not sure this was intended to happen, but it certainly has. If he sells all 200k shares, percentage-wise, the impact is still small, but I agree, this can do naught but dilute the value of DMC shares.
legendary
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May 17, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
Seems like a lot of people had the same idea as me:

Buy 2 shares of X for 0.6 BTC, trade them for 1 share of DMC and sell them for slightly less than 1 BTC...

I'm not really sure if you can keep up this model much longer without seriously hurting your IPO income.
legendary
Activity: 1162
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DiabloMiner author
May 17, 2012, 01:24:25 PM
Wow, DMC is really taking off here.

We've passed the 1000 share mark, and we're not slowing down.

Also, I want to mention this so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle: someone traded exactly 666 shares of BMMO in. I love it when people totally get me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.901464 is acting as a live tally on the asset trade. I'm not going to leave this window open forever. Once Bitcoinica's destruction stops effectively halting GLBSE and everything is flowing the way it should again, the window gets closed and everyone has to buy shares the more expensive way.

Don't wait, act now, orders in the next 20 minutes get free S&H, etc etc. You know the drill.
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 16, 2012, 11:07:21 PM
By popular request, I've added TYGRR and TYGRRMBA
donator
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May 16, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
DiabloD3,

Good luck with your mining company.

Lets make it a Great Succes.


Greetz
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 16, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
Ive added ABM to the swap list.
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 15, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
Due to popular request I've added FPGA.Contract and YABMC for the trade offer.
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 15, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
and creator of DiabloMiner, one of the most used GPU miner (although not the most I believe).

Historically its the most, but I've lost ground recently to cgminer... but then again, cgminer offers my kernel as an option. Cheesy
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 15, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
2 questions:

1. How does this 'share swap' work exactly? I transfer you 2 giga via glbse then you send me 5 DMC shares direct to my account, is that correct?

2. Are you taking puremining shares in exchange, and if yes whats the exchange rate?

Cheers

1) Yes, you specifically send it to Diablo-D3:DMC (GLBSE has a weird subaccount naming scheme) and tell me the exact date/time and amount of the transfer (GLBSE gives you those on your portfolio page under transfers out) and then I send you the DMC shares. I also need your GLBSE account name.

2) I'll take Puremining, 1 DMC for 2 PUREMINING seems to be equiv to the rest. I've added it to the list.
full member
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May 15, 2012, 02:30:01 PM

You just have to believe it will work out fine.


Good luck with that!

Don't like it, don't invest.  It's as simple as that.
sr. member
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May 15, 2012, 01:48:12 PM

You just have to believe it will work out fine.


Good luck with that!
hero member
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May 15, 2012, 12:45:47 PM
2 questions:

1. How does this 'share swap' work exactly? I transfer you 2 giga via glbse then you send me 5 DMC shares direct to my account, is that correct?

2. Are you taking puremining shares in exchange, and if yes whats the exchange rate?

Cheers

Don't do it man. Can't you see that this is a scam? The highest bid for DMC is 0.00000001! Great way to get nothing for something.

The guy proposing this is part of the forum's staff... and creator of DiabloMiner, one of the most used GPU miner (although not the most I believe). That doesn't mean the guy can't scam, but he does have some reputation for working on projects and being trustworthy.

The swap just is, however... Well I don't like it like many, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. You just have to believe it will work out fine.

For the 0.00000001 bid... those are seen on every asset, just ignore those. Just consider there's no current bid at all.
sr. member
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May 15, 2012, 09:56:43 AM
2 questions:

1. How does this 'share swap' work exactly? I transfer you 2 giga via glbse then you send me 5 DMC shares direct to my account, is that correct?

2. Are you taking puremining shares in exchange, and if yes whats the exchange rate?

Cheers

Don't do it man. Can't you see that this is a scam? The highest bid for DMC is 0.00000001! Great way to get nothing for something.
sr. member
Activity: 250
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May 15, 2012, 09:48:29 AM
2 questions:

1. How does this 'share swap' work exactly? I transfer you 2 giga via glbse then you send me 5 DMC shares direct to my account, is that correct?

2. Are you taking puremining shares in exchange, and if yes whats the exchange rate?

Cheers
legendary
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Merit: 1000
DiabloMiner author
May 15, 2012, 04:10:14 AM
Update: (Updated 9/10)

Shares sold total: 20909

Shares held total:
54 BTC-MINING (300 mhash) = (16200 mhash)
951 BTCMC (7 mhash) = (6657 mhash)
9290 OBSI.ABMO (12.92 mhash) = (120026 mhash)

Total hashing power: 142883 mhash
Approximately 6.833 mhash per share
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 14, 2012, 11:21:28 PM
Although I'm not interested in a trade, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a chunk out of the Cognitive askwall!

I've added an offer for Cognitive as well.
legendary
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What's a GPU?
May 14, 2012, 09:29:06 PM
Although I'm not interested in a trade, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a chunk out of the Cognitive askwall!
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
May 14, 2012, 09:22:10 PM
Well, you bought relatively expensive on the bitbond end... The current price for 1 MH/s seems to still be 0.3 BTC - preIPO from trusted people you might be able to buy even cheaper.

You could also offer to trade 1 share of your company for 3 MH/s of mining bonds for some time.

A lot of people have BTC tied up in that Bitcoinica clusterfuck, and many people have told me they would invest in DMC but can't because of that, but many people also have significant GLBSE holdings, so I'd like to help everyone out:

http://caspar.adterrasperaspera.com/dmc/trade/

This seems to be fair to the owners of those bonds and for existing shareholders. I'm willing to pay that small premium just to get (virtual) hash power up to start growing the growth fund and pay out dividends for early investors.

If anyone wants to do it, talk to me on #dmc or #bitcoin-assets on Freenode or message me on the forums. GLBSE changes a fee to transfer, so remember to have a smidgen of BTC in your accounts.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1007
May 14, 2012, 12:21:39 PM
Well, you bought relatively expensive on the bitbond end... The current price for 1 MH/s seems to still be 0.3 BTC - preIPO from trusted people you might be able to buy even cheaper.

You could also offer to trade 1 share of your company for 3 MH/s of mining bonds for some time.
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