Topic: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ Core v6.16.5.1 - DigiShield, DigiSpeed, Segwit - page 1254. (Read 3058926 times)

or change groestl to Neoscrypt

The issue isn't a 51% attack issue, it's a monopolization issue, or unfair competition if you will. His pool has an unfair advantage that basically eliminates other competing Groestl pools.




Well, I wasn't really proposing anything as it was that I was simply documenting what I was seeing, but now that you've asked . . .

Your pool ( http://cryptohunger.com:81/ ) has an unfair advantage that makes other Groestl pools uncompetitive with you. We all know that is not fair, and no-one would argue that it is.

It's simple common sense: who would mine on any other pool when they could get a higher hashrate (and payout) on your pool with the same equipment? (All other things being equal and baring things like hidden fees, questionable payouts, and other similar issues that can cause a user to distrust - only distrust would cause someone to forego a more profitable opportunity, until the larger community steps in to enforce equal opportunity and general fairness that is.)

So you attract all mining to your pool and you make good money yourself. Sounds like a good capitalist proposition, but the problem is that your unfair advantage eliminates competition (other pools) and capitalism places a higher priority on competition than it does with one entity's individual desires to get rich at others' expense.

Therefore, the obvious proposal would be to correct the problem, and that would be done by addressing the unfair advantage, either by making it possible for other pools to use your optimized kernel, or by discontinuing its use on your pool (which would be easily verifiable).

"1mh to 300mh" is equivalent to "100mh to 30gh". Each time its factor is 300

based on blocks found, maybe the problem is on the difficulty retargetting on scrypt, all other 4 algos are about ~190

the difficulty should adjust such that a block is found every 30 Second Blocks (2.5 Min per Algo)

2 * 60mins * 10hrs = 1200 blocks
1200 / 5 = 240 blocks per algo in ten hours, but scrypt is way down only 113 blocks

New Skein p2pool located on EU

http://meziti.nl:5031/static/

According to what i've read between Scrypt and Skein, 1mh (scrypt) is equivalent to 300mh (skein).
We have a median of 100mh on p2pool scrypt and 3gh on the skein p2pool. (just taking p2pool stats)
So 100mh scrypt is equivalent to 30gh skein if i'm right, so we have 10x time more power on Scrypt p2pool but we find much more less blocks on the Scrypt p2pool than Skein p2pool.
Correct me if i'm wrong but if i'm right that mean Skein is much more easier with 10x time less power... so their might be a problem with difficulty retargetting on Skein

I can only speak for myself...  but as one of those who threw significant hashpower at the network to push it along in the days leading up to the switch I can assure you I have never sold a single DGB, not now and in fact not at all in the history of the coin. I've mined a load and bought a load.... and intend to buy more. I'm still mining on scrypt with my own equipment at a significant loss, although that may come to an end soon as I am considering selling my ASICs. I'm holding for the day they are actually worth something and I can either buy directly or sell for real money, not fractions of a BTC.

Please email us again. i cannot find any unhandled tickets.
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some coins go quicker: bigger volume, exchanges etc...

> srcxxx, I've sent you a PM alerting you to the fact that your proprietary pool currently, as of this writing, has over 50% of the DGB Groestl hashrate.

Hi HR!

I saw your message, but I'm not quite sure what course of action you are proposing.

Also, even if all the groestl algo miners were on cryptohunger, that wouldn't be 100% of DGB hashrate. That is the whole idea of multi-algo switch.

For the miners who only mine DGB to sell them straight away into BTC, I'm proposing to point your grs-sgminer 1.4 to stratum+tcp://boostpool.com:3333 and use your BTC address as login.

boostpool.com is a multipool with BTC payouts. All mined coins (which is 100% DGB now, as it is by far more profitable than MYR or SFR). Currently it is in Beta and the UI is total crap, but payouts are working just fine.
So some might want to hop in there to distribute the hashrate.

PS: The address that you mentioned is used for DGB payouts. So yes, there are lots of DGB coming in there, but then they are being sent out to miners.

Thanks
srcxxx

Good spot!

His recent post history is comical.

You've been doing this on more than 10 coins, what's the point of telling everyone your address? You want free coins? Get involved in the community, maybe one day you'll receive some, till then it might be considered spam.

With all the hashrate DGB got in the last week, you can be sure that most of those that helped get to block 145 000 won't hold this coin. they will dump no matter the price to get back to the coins they have in their portfolio. Sad but it happens, DGB is now a multi-algo (first to switch from single algo), dev just need to continue their great work and things will keep improving.

Interesting stuff ... but with 50% of Groestl that is still only half of one algorithm, i.e. 10% of the network. So not a huge issue.

There are some big hitters soaking up the rewards for the less popular algos (ie. not scrypt or Sha) and some of those are solomining ... be interesting to see how it works out in a few days after everything has calmed down.

We're both correct: yours is real life data (which I can corroborate), and my above calculations are based on 'official' blockchain data coming from the various pools and sgminer diff ratios, etc.

I'm not sure about your mathematical, could you give some detail because i'm with Groestl with 2 270x and if i can earn more 0.0015 btc / day, i have profit. I'm in europe, 0.16 dollars / kwh. With 8000 DGB per day, it's good at 25 satoshi...

I'm saying that but i don't sell my DGB more than a millions, i'm waiting 1 dollard / DGB

I've done a quick mathematical check, and, with its current diff and network hashrate, break-even for electical usage only (using US national electrical costs and excluding hardware investments) for Groestl is 70 satoshi. For example.

With its current diff and network hashrate, break-even for electrical usage only (using US national electrical costs and excluding hardware investments) for SHA-256 is 32 satoshi.

So, according to these two samples (haven't had time to do scrypt yet, but I think it's probably higher than SHA-256), anyone selling at current levels is losing money in the process (very smart - NOT) . . . unless they're mining in Iceland that is. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-25/trip-through-bitcoin-mines

Bird,

Just a heads up (or maybe a question as to why), but your Groestl pool has recently been making weird payouts that don't include all the miners currently mining.

Three recent examples are blocks
149981
http://insight.dgb.cryptopoolmining.com/block/0d03fd75bee18864fcaa97457da1defd54e8f75fde8e9ef260f00aa2027440ed
(where there was only one address paid to that isn't even mining)

150240
http://insight.dgb.cryptopoolmining.com/block/dd1f60e865d52fdc02561af3a5367d70a55ff51e9ed76eaae11fb620e38c4faa
(two addresses that aren't mining either)

150452
http://insight.dgb.cryptopoolmining.com/block/1230681f657d4bf2d0d6907bbad7e7c1e540065c9b8281378d8a5212e49b3add
(same two as above that aren't mining)

What's up with this?


On another note, just for fun I took a peek at address D96y4y74NUegfYJ8yn9chxbPLrRiypCF6V and there's been around 40 payouts to that same address since block 150452, and almost always the same exact amount: 6117.69330151 DGB, and those are not coming from Bird's Pool.



The D96y4y74NUegfYJ8yn9chxbPLrRiypCF6V address massive payout looks like a possible red flag to immediately investigate. Almost a quarter a million DGB in a couple of hours!!!

Add: Another 61,000 or so in the last 30 minutes - at that rate, the take down would be just shy of 3 million a day (or almost 14% of theoretical production and 20% of actual discovery). Could that really be legit? With the payouts I saw from Bird's pool that should have gone to other addresses, I seriously doubt it.

Add 2: It's all Groestl and Crypto Hunger has got the hashrate to do this ( http://cryptohunger.com:81/tbs ) the sporadic payouts suggest this might be the case. But, the 2 payouts from Bird's pool? Orphans?

Wow, if that's the case, we're getting a concentrated hashrate issue due to someone not releasing all of his "proprietary" code . . .

Monopolization is a real issue in a supposedly decentralized crypto world.

Add 3:     srcxxx, I've sent you a PM alerting you to the fact that your proprietary pool currently, as of this writing, has over 50% of the DGB Groestl hashrate.

Only 3 BTC till 1 sat, damn. Lets hope there is _some_ news soon to push DGB up a bit (don't want a pump), because I really don't want DGB to drop that low.

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