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Topic: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ Core v6.16.5.1 - DigiShield, DigiSpeed, Segwit - page 1419. (Read 3058812 times)

legendary
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Official DigiByte Account
As far as we know we are the first Alt Coin to implement the Bitcoin v0.9.0 Protocol. We would love to have you help us test the Scrypt implementation out before we replace the main download link on the Digibyte.co website.

We have done initial testing and everything appears to be working well. We appreciate any and all feedback.

DigiByte v 2.9 Facts:
*Not a mandatory update
*Backwards compatible
*Includes exe installer
*Implements the latest Bitcoin 0.9 protocol features into DigiByte.

Windows x64 bit version: http[Suspicious link removed]
Windows x32 bit version: http[Suspicious link removed]

As always BACK UP your wallet.dat before upgrading!

I'm testing currently this release , exactly x64 build :

- I can receive and sent DGB to others accounts (My main testing receiver DGB account was AGX.io and my secondary is a Android Wallet)
- Wallet backup & restore working perfectly
- Synchronize with DGB network without issue, I feel this version sync more fast with DGB network compared with v2.0.
- Ui Improvements are welcome  Grin

Only one minor issue in UI, but not affect wallet functionality : http://s27.postimg.org/ewdnbld03/ui_bug.png -- the html code in the message "

Thanks for this RC Dev Team...  Grin

Greetings from Venezuela
Thank you for the feedback, we have found a couple small issues that we are fixing before doing a full release.
sr. member
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I fear it's quite possible that in few months months there are 2 people mining DGB, and both have 300mh/s asics.

I fear that no one with asics are mining DGB...that would mean its not worth anyone's hashes...

both of these are real possibilities and are my fears as well if no new algorithm is applied...in fact the 2 people mining DGB with ASICS will mine the life out of DGB then dump coins on an exchange....end result is that price keeps plummeting yet difficulty has risen, DGB would then be toast since there is no incentive to mine anymore....this is all of course hypothetical, DGB will be modified well before this will happen but it's unfortunately the reality that all scrypt coins are facing
newbie
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As far as we know we are the first Alt Coin to implement the Bitcoin v0.9.0 Protocol. We would love to have you help us test the Scrypt implementation out before we replace the main download link on the Digibyte.co website.

We have done initial testing and everything appears to be working well. We appreciate any and all feedback.

DigiByte v 2.9 Facts:
*Not a mandatory update
*Backwards compatible
*Includes exe installer
*Implements the latest Bitcoin 0.9 protocol features into DigiByte.

Windows x64 bit version: http[Suspicious link removed]
Windows x32 bit version: http[Suspicious link removed]

As always BACK UP your wallet.dat before upgrading!

I'm testing currently this release , exactly x64 build :

- I can receive and sent DGB to others accounts (My main testing receiver DGB account was AGX.io and my secondary is a Android Wallet)
- Wallet backup & restore working perfectly
- Synchronize with DGB network without issue, I feel this version sync more fast with DGB network compared with v2.0.
- Ui Improvements are welcome  Grin

Only one minor issue in UI, but not affect wallet functionality : http://s27.postimg.org/ewdnbld03/ui_bug.png -- the html code in the message "

Thanks for this RC Dev Team...  Grin

Greetings from Venezuela
full member
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P2pool using DigiByte v2.0. Now with Cryptsy price displayed Smiley
Address: dgb.p2phash.com

P2Pool benefits:

* No registration required
* Distributed hashrate
* Immediate payouts after a block is found
* Higher payouts with transaction fees paid to miners
* No account hack possible

Fee: only 0.5%
Start mining within seconds! Just point your miner to p2phash.com:9022 and use the DigiByte address from your wallet for username, the password doesn't matter.


You can now follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/P2PHash
legendary
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Official DigiByte Account
Does anyone have any feed back on mining Maxcoin?
legendary
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Official DigiByte Account
We are taking a very hard look at SHA-3 Keccak.

SHA stands for "Secure Hashing Algorithm" and is set by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Hash_Algorithm

SHA-0 Has been exploited.
SHA-1 Has been exploited.
SHA-2 What Bitcoin uses & most cryptos.
SHA-3 Next generation super secure hash. Maxcoin implemented SHA-3 Keccak

We have been researching much more into Keccak.
http://keccak.noekeon.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-3

What really caught our attention:

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Keccak excels in hardware performance, with speed/area trade-offs, and outperforms SHA-2 by an order of magnitude.

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Keccak has overall good software performance. It is faster than SHA-2 on modern PCs and shines when used in a mode exploiting parallelism.

Rumor has it a GPU miner for Keccak has already been developed. We are thinking we can modify Keccak for GPUs.
full member
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We hate most is liar
The community should not deceive
Thank you for your reminding me

Huh?
member
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We hate most is liar
The community should not deceive
Thank you for your reminding me
sr. member
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CLAM Dev
I'm not saying we should switch as I'm still largely undecided, its a difficult problem. If we were to change I'm personally becoming a fan of the approach that myriadcoin has taken with there algo design (at least on paper). To me it seems like a balanced approach and could be tweaked for digibyte and accommodate other algos if we so desired.  

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Scypt, SHA256D, Qubit, Skein or Groestl

How it works
Each proof of work algorithm has its own independent difficulty.
Any algorithm can find the next block.
All the algorithms use the same difficulty adjustment method.
On average, each algorithm has the same chance of finding the next block.
Each algorithm aims for a block generation time of 2.5 minutes.
Over the five algorithms, a block should be found on average every 30 seconds.

It would require some changes to infrastructure where we would need pools for each algorithm and depending on which algo you mined you would use a different mining program.

It needs more research but its an interesting idea and worth exploring
legendary
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Official DigiByte Account
full member
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In the end we definitely do not want hashing power to become centralized & we like the idea that anyone should be able to mine DigiByte with very little associated costs.

The question is in the future how many people are actually going to be mining when we achieve main stream adoption? Maybe 5% of users a year from now? What are your thoughts?


Impossible to answer imo, this depends on how Digibyte will grow or decline. If all your efforts, dev's and community's efforts, will be rewarded by a huge amount of trade and nice value per coin in few months, lot of people will probably mine DGB as a standard, and it's not impossible to see an average net hashrate of 30 Ghs+ like the DOGE community.

Regarding the algorythm, I have a question because i have no knowledge in programming : is there any way to have a fast and secure algo which will give a maximum fixed amount of shares per minute/kilohash per minute AND per device?

Imagine an algo which will fix a maximum hashing power per devices (GPU Card/ASICS/Grid Seed/CPU etc...) at, for example, 200 Khs. Limited at something like 8 devices per IP/MAC adress, all people will have a proportionnal amount of coins, and will save a lot of electricity because  running a Graphic card at lower intensity will bring the electricity bill lower.

I'm just suggesting a beginning of reflexion, this is maybe not possible. Please gimme some light in this darkness Wink
sr. member
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Better rewards
Coins deposited directly in your wallet
DDoS resistant
No registration needed, just a DigiByte address as username
If node is down, you don't lose your DigiByte, your work is saved on network.


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member
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People will always mine, if, they can afford to. With BTC value going down, and all the alts ( at the moment ), many many people whom bought into mining hard core ( possibly foolishly & too heavily ), are either turning rigs off due to operating costs, or the inability to ROI, many are just selling.  As long as people can afford to, they will, new algos, that make better use of energy & operating costs are very attractive. At the moment, I hash scrypt , N & X11, with scrypt being a very low percentage. I can buy coin cheaper than it is to mine it in many cases ( with reg scrypt )
full member
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DigiByte Founder
In the end we definitely do not want hashing power to become centralized & we like the idea that anyone should be able to mine DigiByte with very little associated costs.

The question is in the future how many people are actually going to be mining when we achieve main stream adoption? Maybe 5% of users a year from now? What are your thoughts?
member
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They still put out Sha256 coins with thousands of THS of asics out there ... What will kill a coin is a lack of community , Lack of smart marketing , Lack of market cap , while asics have changed the bitcoin market and difficulty I think the value has clearly increased over the last two years ....  these mega asics won't be prevalent for a few more months if at all and the little gridseeds haven't effected any coins in any substantial way, but have saved the world a lot of electrical usage to support the crypto mining required for coins .....     What would kill a coin fast is a bad transition to another algo ...  People dump coins with problems and Id hate for that to happen to Digibyte.  
(plus what would i do with all my asics? Grin)



Apparently he does. ^^
member
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I fear it's quite possible that in few months months there are 2 people mining DGB, and both have 300mh/s asics.

I fear that no one with asics are mining DGB...that would mean its not worth anyone's hashes...
hero member
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I fear it's quite possible that in few months months there are 2 people mining DGB, and both have 300mh/s asics.
member
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I agree 100% that a rush into a new algo would be bad. However, if a new algo is being considered, along with that should be a 'back up' plan just in case somthing bad happens..I would even go as far as to suggest a two algo back up. Mabey N-Scrypt and ____.   It may sound like over kill, however in my short time in crypto, I have seen great ideas crumble, due to the lack of 'back up plans' Im sure the team is considering all this, and I am more than likely stating the obvious, however sometimes the obvious things get overlooked, as we tend to over complicate as we try and essentially predict and do whats best for the future. Some of the points I would like to see is that any GPU miner can mine the coin, nVida & AMD, CPU miners aswell, & if a Algo(s) is chosen, & if the developement team(s) of the various miners do not support a new algo, that they have set in stone plans to do so.

-Happy Mining
full member
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DigiByte Founder
I have held digibyte for a long time.
It is time to switch to x11 and be a leading alt, not a follower.
We are not completely sure the X11 algorithm is the best one to use right now. The fact that GPU's run cooler on it does not mean it is more efficient by any means.

I wont get into the debate , of what algo better or not, I like X11,  however, anytime electricity is used in a circuit, and the result is heat, that is inefficiency unless the wanted end product is heat. How a coin is coded to handle say 'X11' is a product of the coin, not the algo. Having run X11 on a different coin for a day or so, I can hands down say, that its incredibly efficient. Now if its being 'tweaked' code side to produce better results with said efficiency, then that would be good, if everyone has access to this. It also could be speculation and FUD. I dont know.. and to be honest, eventually IF there is better coded miners out there, I would hope we'll all have access eventually.

A few things to remember, is that when anything new comes out, in any field , there will be pro's & con's, aswell as much speculation and misinformation from the people whom have the most to lose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_efficiency


Lets not confuse, mix, and twist facts vs. speculation. My only argument here is that in an electrical circuit, Heat = Inefficiency


Much agreed. You bring up some very valid points. And we are speculating that the mining software will be improved as time goes on for X11.

Since we are not the 1st coin to switch algos in a hard fork or the 1st to implement X11 we see no reason to rush into it. We still have 2-3 months before this could become an issue.

Also, there still are several arguments as to how ASICS could actually help DigiByte grow in the long run. We are not saying we agree with this, but there are some valid points to consider. Such as. if someone spends $10,000 on a Scrypt ASIC the only thing it is good for is mining Scrypt coins. So people will be mining Scrypt based coins well into the future with them. Also, the more invested someone becomes in a coin after spending that much money, the more they will want it to succeed.

A majority, but not all GPU miners tend to be a migratory crowd moving from the most profitable coin to the next coin with the newest features with the hopes of it becoming the next most profitable coin to mine. This is not a bad thing, but it is not good for the long term survival of any particular coin with an algo dominated by GPU miners.

Also, a lot of GPU miners tend to be very short term oriented and less likely to mine coins because they believe in them and want to support them long term.

Ideally, if we do switch algos we would like to make it something Unique to DigiByte that will help make us stand out. Much like DigiShield. This takes time and we definitely want to test it out.

We are researching many different algos at the moment including ones never before put into a crypto. This is a very broad and technically challenging are of study so it will take some time.

Still, if anyone has any further suggestions we are very open to hearing them. Thanks again for the feedback!
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