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legendary
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I have gone through a few submission in the meta and find it hard sometimes why people have picked this member or that member. In few categories, I think linking would be great.
I'm trying to find everything from bitcointalk. Since it's "Bitcointalk Community Awards", I think "event of the year", "fail of the year" or some more categories in which people are picking something outside of bitcointalk, should be taken from the forum.

I think miss bitcointalk is a category we should not have from the next years.
It should be lol.
Miss Bitcointalk: BitcoinGirl.Club
staff
Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115
Spambuster should be only for mods and admins to vote. The event of the year, who will take it? There are no user for it normally.

Would probably result in more accurate votes, since a lot of the users that are getting voted for haven't actually reported all that much in the last year, which I think isn't just the case for this category, but multiple categories. Users reputation has x carries over through the years, rather than rewards users for that year in particular, which is a shame.

The only issue with that is I don't think many moderators have voted in the past, and even then only globals really have a good view on it all since they receive all reports, and have a much better idea of those that are contributing than me as an example who only covers certain sections, and new users.
legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Isn't it why we have "submit your post" for merits thread all over the forum? You will not win if you begin this challenge.
If anything, Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source shows that not many good posts are unmerited.

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No, the merit system is controlled by the community, it is easier to farm merits, but a user must have been in the forum for at least 2-4 months to farm activity. a newbie with zero knowledge of the forum can register today, make topic and earn 50 merits with his first post, go on and copy-paste votes. (Another disadvantage of using merit point)
There are many times more users with high Activity and no earned Merit, than Newbies who earned 50 Merit on their first post. It's a rare thing. I have enough sMerit to create 48 96 Newbies, give them 50 Merit each, and vote for myself in the "Fail of the Year" category. And if I do that, it'll be blatantly obvious. So I don't think this is likely to be abused in this way.

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check voters merit history and their choice of candidate
If you notice irregularities, you should post them here.
legendary
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Users like Abutaleb628 (882 Activity) or Semar Mesem (1148 Activity) have no business voting.

why do you think so?
Have you bothered to check their post history? Its literally full of bounty reports and a  barely anything else else. Members like those two don't have any interest  being part of this community, their only goal is to leech off this forum via bounty campaigns and that's about it. So if they don't want to be part of this community, why should they be able to vote in this community event?


Even now I ran into one legendary member who has only 5 merits and his posts are not that bad. But to avoid arguments and pointing anyone out so as not to make it look like am mentioning their case I will let this issue go. This user is in a well paying campaign. You would not say he is a shit poster
Being in a well paid campaign doesn't mean that you are not shitposter as currently there's more spots in campaigns than quality members, which gives a chance to even shitposters to earn bitcoin.
sr. member
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Am not talking about excluding newbies by using that 50 merit criteria. Am talking about high ranked members who do not have up to that number of merit and as such will be disqualified from the voting process.
If you show me a high ranking member who hasn't earned 50 Merits, I'll show you a member who's either been offline for years, or who's posts aren't worth reading.

Even now I ran into one legendary member who has only 5 merits and his posts are not that bad. But to avoid arguments and pointing anyone out so as not to make it look like am mentioning their case I will let this issue go. This user is in a well paying campaign. You would not say he is a shit poster
staff
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The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
Am not talking about excluding newbies by using that 50 merit criteria. Am talking about high ranked members who do not have up to that number of merit and as such will be disqualified from the voting process. It is not every member that gets merit when they make posts. And you know that.
If you show me a high ranking member who hasn't earned 50 Merits, I'll show you a member who's either been offline for years, or who's posts aren't worth reading.
Isn't it why we have "submit your post" for merits thread all over the forum? You will not win if you begin this challenge. There are dozens of them out there, and there are quality posters who don't care about the merit system either but they know so much about the forum..

If you want to reduce double voting, use activity points, which are calculated based on how long you've been here.
So all the bounty spamming Newbies with countless accounts with 1000 Activity and 0 Merit can influence the voting? Activity is easy to farm, Merit isn't.
No, the merit system is controlled by the community, it is easier to farm merits, but a user must have been in the forum for at least 2-4 months to farm activity. a newbie with zero knowledge of the forum can register today, make topic and earn 50 merits with his first post, go on and copy-paste votes. (Another disadvantage of using merit point)

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A minimum of 30- 50 activity points required to vote will eliminate many things.
Users like Abutaleb628 (882 Activity) or Semar Mesem (1148 Activity) have no business voting.

why do you think so?
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Am not talking about excluding newbies by using that 50 merit criteria. Am talking about high ranked members who do not have up to that number of merit and as such will be disqualified from the voting process. It is not every member that gets merit when they make posts. And you know that.
If you show me a high ranking member who hasn't earned 50 Merits, I'll show you a member who's either been offline for years, or who's posts aren't worth reading.

If you want to reduce double voting, use activity points, which are calculated based on how long you've been here.
So all the bounty spamming Newbies with countless accounts with 1000 Activity and 0 Merit can influence the voting? Activity is easy to farm, Merit isn't.

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It is possible for a merit source to merit a large number of members nearing the 50 merits mark and then PM them and buy their votes.
That's true. And if it's discovered, they'll get tagged for it.

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A minimum of 30- 50 activity points required to vote will eliminate many things.
Users like Abutaleb628 (882 Activity) or Semar Mesem (1148 Activity) have no business voting.
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
You must have 50 earned merits to vote

why is it called the community awards when some set of people are not allowed to vote?
It takes some experience to evaluate users properly, and that takes time. If voting will accept all users, are you really sure that they know who is being voted for? I agree that some people have quickly gained 50 merits, but on average, it takes a long time to gain merits, and during this time, we see users who are already familiar with the forum.
Even now, there are those who vote for someone who is completely unrelated to the occupation in which he is ranked.

Making 50 merits the minimum requirement for voting is not a bad idea, but it does not necessarily imply that the user with 50+ merits knows more about the forum than some random newbies/members with less than 50 merits who have been around and very active in the last 3-5 years on the forum. This user has been around since 2016 and must have known everything here on the forum but is not eligible to vote because he has not accumulated as many merits as others. If you want to reduce double voting, use activity points, which are calculated based on how long you've been here.

It is possible for a merit source to merit a large number of members nearing the 50 merits mark and then PM them and buy their votes. Nothing is taken for granted in politics. It is already taking place. A minimum of 30- 50 activity points required to vote will eliminate many things.


Every vote is a duplicate of the previous year's; the only categories that vary each year are "Fail of the Year," "Event of the Year," and "Antihero," the rest is just rinse, repeat, and rinse among the same people. Same voters, same outcomes. Its worth is dwindling.

Of course, weird votes will be present this year too (as it was already highlighted here or here). But I believe these cases will be reduced compared with previous events.

Of course, this category is meaningless because we are all addressed as men on the internet, similar to how both male and female engineers are referred to as engineers. Having said that, I noticed people voting for Yohoo62278, o-e-l-e-o, and LoyceV as Miss Bitcointalk. Isn't this reason enough to get rid of this category? Are these ballots considered valid?


example of paraphrased copy and paste vote. lol



sr. member
Activity: 1960
Merit: 329
You must have 50 earned merits to vote

why is it called the community awards when some set of people are not allowed to vote?

I feel the same too because it is discrimination and irrelevant. You want to tell us that only those who have gotten that 50 merits are the real members or most intelligent ones of this forum? To say the truth, nobody should be treated that way because of merit load.

It takes some experience to evaluate users properly, and that takes time. If voting will accept all users, are you really sure that they know who is being voted for?

lovesmayfamilis am sorry you are misunderstanding my comment. Am not talking about excluding newbies by using that 50 merit criteria. Am talking about high ranked members who do not have up to that number of merit and as such will be disqualified from the voting process. It is not every member that gets merit when they make posts. And you know that.
legendary
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Fully-fledged Merit Cycler|Spambuster'23|Pie Baker
Every vote is a duplicate of the previous year's; the only categories that vary each year are "Fail of the Year," "Event of the Year," and "Antihero," the rest is just rinse, repeat, and rinse among the same people. Same voters, same outcomes. Its worth is dwindling.

I believe that this year the winner names will change a bit, as not all users are eligible for voting anymore. This should reduce, in part, copy-pasted votes, which was an activity done many times in the past by various Newbies or other new users, which did not know the backgrounds of the ones they voted for. Having users with a better knowledge about the forum should, at least, make votes more accurate than before. lovesmayfamilis also explained the situation very well in her post.

Of course, weird votes will be present this year too (as it was already highlighted here or here). But I believe these cases will be reduced compared with previous events.



I can already say that next year the Miss Bitcointalk category will be abolished (there will be another category).

Oh nooooo! You are peevish at our Supreme Leader for winning this trophy every time? Ever thought about how you will manage her anger? Oh gawd... Please say this prayer 5 times a day and maybe -- only maybe -- you'll have a slight chance the not have part of her wrath:

The Queen of Foxes guides us. The Queen of Foxes teaches us. The Queen of Foxes protects us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives (+wives) are yours.
 Grin
sr. member
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You must have 50 earned merits to vote

why is it called the community awards when some set of people are not allowed to vote?

I feel the same too because it is discrimination and irrelevant. You want to tell us that only those who have gotten that 50 merits are the real members or most intelligent ones of this forum? To say the truth, nobody should be treated that way because of merit load.

You have the point that mate but we must think further which is the qualifications for this thread to vote is 50 merits and above which is I strongly agree with It. Because when all user including Those newcomers here on the forum will vote for sure  there's a big chance that some newcomers here in our community earned less than 50 merits then they just copy and paste from the other voter in order to submit their vote.  And lovesmayfamilis   already explained it above.
legendary
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You must have 50 earned merits to vote

why is it called the community awards when some set of people are not allowed to vote?

I feel the same too because it is discrimination and irrelevant. You want to tell us that only those who have gotten that 50 merits are the real members or most intelligent ones of this forum? To say the truth, nobody should be treated that way because of merit load.

I can speak from my own experience. When I was a newbie, I had absolutely no idea who was who on the forum. Later, while searching for scams on the forum, I discovered the nicknames of other people who were also engaged in this activity; these were the first people I regularly read. Further, while staying on the forum, I began to understand people, and an understanding of the real interests of users came. I think you understand what I'm getting at.
It takes some experience to evaluate users properly, and that takes time. If voting will accept all users, are you really sure that they know who is being voted for? I agree that some people have quickly gained 50 merits, but on average, it takes a long time to gain merits, and during this time, we see users who are already familiar with the forum.
Even now, there are those who vote for someone who is completely unrelated to the occupation in which he is ranked.
sr. member
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It will only be useful if you use a bot service, so what if they don't use that notification bot?

This Award Thread will last for 60 days or 2 months. The information will spread quickly and people will realize it sooner or later especially if there are users who are willing to post their translation thread on local board. But I think admin can embed it in an announcement on the homepage or in one of the factoid slots if they want, it will help people notice it.

However, usually several merit will lure many people to post their nomination.  Tongue
Looks like this time the rules are a little different from last year, Op attached this to the Pre-election campaign.

➥ No merit sending is allowed from nominees to users which nominated them & Votes cast for inactive users will not count

Yes, information will spread quickly, but if No merit sending is allowed from nominees, will it lure many people to post their nominations? People are very aware of it but very few vote because it's all about merit. IMO
legendary
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Your idea is good and it can help to an extent, and i also buy the idea LoyceV adopted by tagging every member that has the 50+ meirt on mention as i also got notified through that as well, i will also like to give this in addition to all you've both suggested that at least every active forum member should occasionally visit Reputation if not twice then once a week to check for any update as that's where the forum/members affairs discussions were been channeled, it could also help to know more about the forum and other crucial updates needed to be pass across.
It will only be useful if you use a bot service, so what if they don't use that notification bot?

This Award Thread will last for 60 days or 2 months. The information will spread quickly and people will realize it sooner or later especially if there are users who are willing to post their translation thread on local board. But I think admin can embed it in an announcement on the homepage or in one of the factoid slots if they want, it will help people notice it.

However, usually several merit will lure many people to post their nomination.  Tongue
hero member
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Merit: 555
I would not have known about the 2022 Community Awards if it hadn't been for the notification I received earlier today from someone who voted for me in a category. I'm sure many people will miss out if it isn't pin on the home page of the forum like it was last year.

Your idea is good and it can help to an extent, and i also buy the idea LoyceV adopted by tagging every member that has the 50+ meirt on mention as i also got notified through that as well, i will also like to give this in addition to all you've both suggested that at least every active forum member should occasionally visit Reputation if not twice then once a week to check for any update as that's where the forum/members affairs discussions were been channeled, it could also help to know more about the forum and other crucial updates needed to be pass across.
legendary
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Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
I think miss bitcointalk is a category we should not have from the next years. Spambuster should be only for mods and admins to vote.
This is indeed a sound idea.  Tongue

I think it's the most difficult and least varied of the votes in this category.
Since it is not always clear whether the users we meet and talk to regularly are male or female. So, we can only choose a user correctly, if that user informed or clearly said that he is a woman. And the vast majority of users did not choose this option in their profile.

Therefore, since the forum is unisex, I find this category unnecessary. Now, the women of the forum, you can express yourself about this.
We are waiting for their feedback, and that way we will soon know who the girls of the forum are.. Tongue Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
You must have 50 earned merits to vote
why is it called the community awards when some set of people are not allowed to vote?
I feel the same too because it is discrimination and irrelevant.
Look up the definition of discrimination, it has nothing to do with voting. Not all requirements are discrimination, it simply means some users don't qualify. The reason is pretty obvious: it's easy to create new accounts, so this restriction reduces abuse.

maybe I would add "Discovery of the Year" knowing that yahoo62278 and LoyceV are females.  Cheesy
Like I said last year:

Everyone likes to think Foxpup is female but I found him attracted to women LOL.
What if she is attracted to women? Wink
Possible but since I am straight I was thinking straight LOL
I'm straight, and my version is much more fun Cheesy
legendary
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light_warrior ... 🕯️
I think miss bitcointalk is a category we should not have from the next years. Spambuster should be only for mods and admins to vote.
This is indeed a sound idea.  Tongue
legendary
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
Everyone likes to think Foxpup is female but I found him attracted to women LOL.
What if she is attracted to women? Wink
Possible but since I am straight I was thinking straight LOL

At least you guys have something in common. When did I ever have myself included into crafting?
Most users are voting for well known users, without actually giving much thought into what category.
Who wants to spend hours to make a post while he can just copy and paste others idea unless there are guys like me who PMed 3 to 4 users including you (🤣), both forum admin only to know best reporter then later get help from a regular member.

I think miss bitcointalk is a category we should not have from the next years. Spambuster should be only for mods and admins to vote. The event of the year, who will take it? There are no user for it normally.
legendary
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Merit: 7065
I saw my name mentioned in this thread by looking at my quotes and mentions with LoyceV's notification bot (this is not paid advertising), and I was certain I was mentioned because I was one of the winners. Turns out that's not the case. What a shame. Cheesy

In my mind, you're all women Cheesy I'm not talking to a bunch of guys. I know I'm just fooling myself, because There are no girls on the internet, but let me have this one Wink
Sure, whatever gets your blood pumping. Grin
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