[Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? - page 12.

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Quote from: el che on July 17, 2022, 09:10:42 PM

even by banning, it will only drive the black market bookies and whoever wants to gamble will find a bookie legally or not, just like drugs.

There are many places in the world where gambling is illegal and banned but do people quit gambling? No, they just find ways to gamble through the black market and hide everything from the legal authorities.

So, gambling cannot be banned completely, it can only be restricted to be played legally.

Also, note that in countries where gambling is banned is because of the religious regions and not because people lose money in gambling.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on July 18, 2022, 10:48:50 AM

OP is fishing people to get removed from gambling signature campaign lol Grin

So far I have not read any comment that it should be banned, from one wearing a signature campaign, the call is to be a responsible gambler and people not here who agreed to get it banned are those who want to blamed something for their losses

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It can't be banned, but should it be banned? Nope, as long as the advertisement is honest, not promise "get rich quick" scheme.

It can't be banned the instinct of people is to gamble and there is money to be made from taxes revenues and employing people
so gambling is here to stay the government must see to it that people are not abusing themselves because of gambling, in the present economic situation brought by the pandemic the government should be practical and think of the greater good of the people, and that is keeping the flow of money from gambling.

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I would say a big No for gambling should be banned, does ban or restrict gambling will stop people to gambling? Nope, they can still access casino with VPN even he's risking his account/money. Addicts wouldn't have a long term thought, so he ignore to read the whole TOS and will continue to gambling to fulfill his satisfy with gambling. If governments want to really ban/restrict their citizens to gambling, it's better for them to ban all traditional gambling and ban the internet connection too, they will live like on 19th century back lol.

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OP is fishing people to get removed from gambling signature campaign lol Grin

Seriously, the answer will be heavily skewed since many people here are a gambler. Gambling is banned in where I live, but it doesn't stop people from playing. In fact, we can easily find people playing slots here! Thus, I don't think the government can ban something that can be accessed via the internet. Online gambling is one of it, and they are fighting a losing battle.

It can't be banned, but should it be banned? Nope, as long as the advertisement is honest, not promising "get rich quick" scheme.

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You know most people's opinion is based on their current situation.... so, if they are on a long losing streak... they will most definitely look for someone to blame.... and most of the time they will find the problem with the casino. (Saying that it is rigged)

I take myself, I continuously question the "feeding" time on Stake.com, because I strongly believe that the RTP is adjusted to fund marketing promotions on the site. (I do not play during these "feeding" times, because I lose too much money then) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 18, 2022, 08:01:53 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on July 16, 2022, 05:17:30 PM

Why ban it? Anything that seems risky and dangerous needs to banned? Lets ban knives and forks and even drinking anything besides water. In fact, lets ban everything.

Gambling is fun. To me, its just an activity to have fun. Its fun because its risky. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose but you need to always understand that no matter what happens, its not a career and its not a lifestyle. Of course there are people who take it too far and become addicted and irresponsible but just because a few such people exist does not mean everyone should have to sacrifice their own freedom just to protect those few.

Unfortunately, the government is like that, If they saw something that they perceived as harmful, they would ban it and make it illegal eventually. Which just makes the situation even worse because now, the people are going to find alternative ways on how to continue doing that illegally. And this makes it even more unsafe for those people because they are now transacting and playing secretly so they won't be punished by the law.

Gambling isn't a bad thing like how they usually paint it to be. It is a kind of recreation activity wherein people get to relax and enjoy at the same time have the opportunity to earn while they are playing. It's just that some people do not know how to set boundaries and limitations. Hence, they fall into addiction. In gambling, it's a matter of self-discipline and restraint. If you don't possess that then you should think twice before entering gambling.

The only things they seem to ever see as harmful are things that are harmful to their own profits. Thats all they really care about. Their own money. And anyone who does not tread carefully is punished by the government. This is exactly where Bitcoin comes into play. It makes it impossible for the government to keep abusing us financially as it has been doing all these years.

I completely agree that one should only gamble when one is able to control themselves and when they possess a certain amount of self restraint. This is something I always tell people, especially on this board where a lot of gamblers lose control.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on July 16, 2022, 05:17:30 PM

Why ban it? Anything that seems risky and dangerous needs to banned? Lets ban knives and forks and even drinking anything besides water. In fact, lets ban everything.

Gambling is fun. To me, its just an activity to have fun. Its fun because its risky. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose but you need to always understand that no matter what happens, its not a career and its not a lifestyle. Of course there are people who take it too far and become addicted and irresponsible but just because a few such people exist does not mean everyone should have to sacrifice their own freedom just to protect those few.

Unfortunately, the government is like that, If they saw something that they perceived as harmful, they would ban it and make it illegal eventually. Which just makes the situation even worse because now, the people are going to find alternative ways on how to continue doing that illegally. And this makes it even more unsafe for those people because they are now transacting and playing secretly so they won't be punished by the law.

Gambling isn't a bad thing like how they usually paint it to be. It is a kind of recreation activity wherein people get to relax and enjoy at the same time have the opportunity to earn while they are playing. It's just that some people do not know how to set boundaries and limitations. Hence, they fall into addiction. In gambling, it's a matter of self-discipline and restraint. If you don't possess that then you should think twice before entering gambling.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 16, 2022, 10:11:17 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on July 15, 2022, 02:52:17 PM

As for harm to oneself, a person should have the right to do so...

Thats when the line between individual rights and possible mental troubles becomes fuzzy, because depending whom one ask gambling could be described as a normal social activity or a mental (or eve spiritual) illness; and it is the job of psychologist and psychiatrists to know where to draw the line.

This reminds me the debate about euthanasia, whether one have the right to die or not, but I think that would be another topic for further discussion on a different board, like Politics & Society.

Purely theoretically, your argument that the decision should be made by professionals seems reasonable. But in practice it turns into nonsense. I don't want "professionals" to decide for me what is good or bad for me and whether I have the right to make myself feel bad. Does this seem like an irrational desire? But if suddenly they start to take away “bad food” from you by force and force you to go to the gym, then you probably won’t like it either, although it seems to be to your benefit.

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I agree with the majority of responses that he should not be banned. Mostly because of the mess banning it is. The best thing is the current regulations with mandatory responsible gaming features.

The thing is that crypto gambling houses often escape this, but I think they do not have many years until they are fully regulated and have to follow the same procedures as fiat houses.

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Gambling should not be banned but different strategies and programmes should be put in place to discourage underage gambling and reduce gambling addictions. The government, parents and other non-government organisations should put certain roadblocks that would be able restrict access to gambling platforms by underage users. Certain remedial or anti-addiction programmes should be constantly put in place or organised to help gambling addict break free from addiction. Gambling services advertisement should also be regulated to ensure that it gets to the appropriate target audience or market.

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Quote from: el che on July 17, 2022, 09:10:42 PM

even by banning, it will only drive the black market bookies and whoever wants to gamble will find a bookie legally or not, just like drugs.

Maybe it would be better if the government regulated gambling or made regulations related to gambling so that people can still gamble in public places and the government can monitor them playing gambling. But it will also depend on how everyone accepts offline casinos.

But that won't stop some people from setting up illegal casinos in their towns just to satisfy people who want to bet on other games. But the government also needs to be aware of the addiction that can happen to people so they also need to warn people to be able to control themselves.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 17, 2022, 07:51:10 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 17, 2022, 07:26:06 PM

Gambling is a personal choice and it really doesn't hurt anyone but the gambler. It's a simple choice to gamble or not too. If you are addicted go seek help. But if you ban it, it will live on illegally putting addicted gamblers in far worse positions getting in debt. No need for banning it honestly.

It is one's personal choice. Just because something is banned, it doesn't mean people are away from it. People always find a way to use it. This is the reality, and it is always good to have some rehabilitation program and centres availed in every country. Such things can be improved than making a ban over gambling.

I agree with you I don't think you understand what I was saying. No matter if banned or not if someone is addicted to gambling banning it won't help. Because they will find a way around it. Rehabilitation is the only way if you are that deep. By keeping it legal at least you don't force those peoe into shady book keepers which is much more dangerous for them.

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even by banning, it will only drive the black market bookies and whoever wants to gamble will find a bookie legally or not, just like drugs.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 17, 2022, 07:51:10 PM

It is one's personal choice. Just because something is banned, it doesn't mean people are away from it. People always find a way to use it. This is the reality, and it is always good to have some rehabilitation program and centres availed in every country. Such things can be improved than making a ban over gambling.

Personal choice or not, you are correct that people can still find a way to do a bannable activity, not just in gambling but for other activities as well. That's them and we can't control it unless they will be put in such a situation that big consequences now happened to them.

Go with the flow I guess is what is always on their mind disregarding all the risks.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 17, 2022, 07:26:06 PM

Gambling is a personal choice and it really doesn't hurt anyone but the gambler. It's a simple choice to gamble or not too. If you are addicted go seek help. But if you ban it, it will live on illegally putting addicted gamblers in far worse positions getting in debt. No need for banning it honestly.

It is one's personal choice. Just because something is banned, it doesn't mean people are away from it. People always find a way to use it. This is the reality, and it is always good to have some rehabilitation program and centres availed in every country. Such things can be improved than making a ban over gambling.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 17, 2022, 07:19:40 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on July 15, 2022, 01:55:59 AM

I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling.

This is the kind of topic that will never resolve in a debate even if its already established that gambling is for fun and entertainment and should not be treated as a way to make money, there will be people who will find it evil and should be ban even if they know that its impossible

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I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused. Grin

Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

You should not and you cannot you don't look elsewhere to justify your losses, it comes from within that is the only way to make peace with yourself you have to deal with your losses, on your terms alone.

justifying your losses will just give you a headache, and will try to look for reasons just to make it right. accept the fact that you lost and look for ways how to move on. that's right, if you are at peace with yourself, you don't need to look for someone else's opinion or of that sort.
gambling will always be a part of humanity. so don't know if banning is really an option here. it is more on personal choice how you can stop the consequences of gambling.

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Gambling is a personal choice and it really doesn't hurt anyone but the gambler. It's a simple choice to gamble or not too. If you are addicted go seek help. But if you ban it, it will live on illegally putting addicted gblers in far worse positions getting in debt. No need for banning it honestly.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 15, 2022, 01:55:59 AM

I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling.

This is the kind of topic that will never resolve in a debate even if its already established that gambling is for fun and entertainment and should not be treated as a way to make money, there will be people who will find it evil and should be ban even if they know that its impossible

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I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused. Grin

Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

You should not and you cannot you don't look elsewhere to justify your losses, it comes from within that is the only way to make peace with yourself you have to deal with your losses, on your terms alone.

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The most weird thing in politics is that if politicians start to think "I am banning something out of your life and not allow you to do it, to protect you from yourself" that's stopping your freedom and taking away your liberty. Of course you stop people from burning down houses, killing each other, murdering people all because you are hurting someone else anyway.

But, you need to allow people to gamble, even USA which is the most liberal nation in the world that I know of, allows gambling in only certain places and not everywhere. This is why I believe that we should start having casinos all around the world, like literally common thing like a grocery store, because that's liberty.

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 16, 2022, 11:06:39 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 16, 2022, 09:05:34 AM

Do you think that now people are unaware of the real risks of winning/losing?
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sometimes I happen to look at the "multibet" bets that other players make... a bit to find inspiration for mine bet (as you well know on Stake it is possible to follow the betting feed).
every time I am shocked by what people are able to play !
I doubt if they have well understood what is the risk / real winning capacity behind a bet with 15 events Roll Eyes

I get what you mean, I've seen a lot of weird bets too... but there's no way to be sure how weird they are. I know at least one reputable bettor on this forum who make multibets with a few hundred odds of winning. As far as I know, he does it for fun, but sometimes he wins. In addition, there are fans of making many small multibets on a set of events instead of one multibet for an "adequate" odds of winning.
Well,and in general, sometimes we see some sensations in the news when a bettor wins a hundred thousand by placing $10. Some trear to it as a lottery (where the odds are even more ridiculous compared to betting).

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