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I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

The government can ban gambling but it doesn't mean they can ban people from accessing illegal gambling. Banning gambling will give more negative result than regulating it. If a government banne gambling the citizen who are engaging in gambling activity are now breaking the law, they might get imprisoned or put to jail where the government shoulder all the expenses of the prisoner. The banning of gambling activities doesn't prevent people from gambling and becoming gambling addicts.
So banning gambling is a loss, but regulating is I think a win-win scenario.

Indeed, citizens who are convicted of gambling activities will be just another burden to the government whom they will be forced to get the citizen food and shelter while in prison and that means exhausting funds that could be used in another way that is more useful. Banning gambling won't be useful and won't get the citizens out of the activities nor get rid of their addiction.

People who becomes more addictive needs to be given proper care. Gamblers used to turn addictive, but very rare incidents take place for the purpose of money to gamble ending into conviction. Same as de-addiction centre for alcohol, separate centre for gambling needs to be opened. This will help gamblers realise themselves and get cure.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on July 27, 2022, 03:21:22 PM

Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Banning gambling wont be much of a difficult decision to consider by the government should it be a thing that is harming its citizens for which, I am not sure gambling is exactly doing that. It goes beyond what revenue the government might be generating off gambling becuase, they could also do that from legalising drugs but the effects on citizens is what becomes of great concern and gambling isn't exactly tha harmful. You've just got to gamble responsibly and you've got little reason to worry.

The issue is, should banning going be an issue, just how can you actualise that?
Infact, you'll end up creating more issues as, people would gamble indiscriminately between themselves and with no proper authority to measure fir fairness and ensure regulations, it would result in chaos.

Banning gambling is just like banning alcohol and tobacco which the government cannot possibly stop its citizens even though it is prohibited because the people will and always find their way to keep their vices like drinking and smoking. Nonetheless, the action of banning gambling will be a senseless because that won't stop the people from gambling either, it's much better to make advantage of these industries to get revenues and taxes so that the resources will not be wasted.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Won't restricting gambling activities will cut down on the tax for the government, as when people will gamble less, the gambling companies will generate less revenue, which in turn will result in low tax collection?

If the government restricts gambling then the government will not earn anything from gambling. The gambling activity of the people will be illegal thus no tax can be collected from it.

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 28, 2022, 01:59:18 PM

In order to ban gambling or restrict gambling, there must be someone who will get direct benefit from this act, Who will be that party who wants gambling to be banned Huh

Many believe that if gambling is banned, the citizen will benefit because the citizen will likely to avoid gambling addiction since gambling won't be around everywhere.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Won't restricting gambling activities will cut down on the tax for the government, as when people will gamble less, the gambling companies will generate less revenue, which in turn will result in low tax collection?

In order to ban gambling or restrict gambling, there must be someone who will get direct benefit from this act, Who will be that party who wants gambling to be banned Huh

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Quote from: mirakal on July 26, 2022, 01:37:15 PM

That is why banning gambling activities will be just a nonsense act of the government because they cannot really stop the people from gambling because we are now in the time where technologies are so modern that even the government itself is still struggling to keep up and things will get expensive if they will exhaust some funds just to track citizens who are still gambling online or in-house casinos.
They are just wasting funds that could have some better use, they better think of regulations and not banning because the revenue that is generated by the casinos can be truly helpful to the country.

That is what governments do not seem to understand, it is true that the advancements we have seen lately when it comes to our technology allows the governments to track way more effectively their citizens, but at the same time it allows their citizens to resits those surveillance efforts if they want.

Banning gambling is a terrible idea because if they do so then people will keep gambling anyway, they will have to spend a fortune trying to enforce such law and eventually they will have to make gambling legal again anyway, so why waste their time in something that will be completely useless?

Yes they can now track effectively to find these people who are still gambling despite of the ban implemented to that specific country, but that technology they have is quite costly and putting people for the job is also expensive for the reason of finding people that are engaged in gambling.
They should've just implement regulations and not banning it, the resources will be wasted for that reason because the people these days knows how to make themselves off the grid while gambling and anyone can use VPN easily as the tutorial can also be found in the internet.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 27, 2022, 06:20:29 PM

Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

The government can ban gambling but it doesn't mean they can ban people from accessing illegal gambling. Banning gambling will give more negative result than regulating it. If a government banne gambling the citizen who are engaging in gambling activity are now breaking the law, they might get imprisoned or put to jail where the government shoulder all the expenses of the prisoner. The banning of gambling activities doesn't prevent people from gambling and becoming gambling addicts.
So banning gambling is a loss, but regulating is I think a win-win scenario.

Indeed, citizens who are convicted of gambling activities will be just another burden to the government whom they will be forced to get the citizen food and shelter while in prison and that means exhausting funds that could be used in another way that is more useful. Banning gambling won't be useful and won't get the citizens out of the activities nor get rid of their addiction.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

It's not possible to be banned. If that can be banned and it can still be accessed by anyone through various tricks. The only problem that was always be mentioned by regulators were about addiction in the gambling. If people able to control it and i think that government shall not feel worry about that. It must be regulated rather than banned. It doesn't matter how hard government was banning it and people will always various way to access it. In some countries were gambling got banned and some people are still doing gamble with some abroad casino.
That's showing how hard the effort by gamblers to avoid the regulators. They want to make sure their citizen will not be addicted but this is actually depends on the personality.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 27, 2022, 06:17:28 PM

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Banning gambling wont be much of a difficult decision to consider by the government should it be a thing that is harming its citizens for which, I am not sure gambling is exactly doing that. It goes beyond what revenue the government might be generating off gambling becuase, they could also do that from legalising drugs but the effects on citizens is what becomes of great concern and gambling isn't exactly tha harmful. You've just got to gamble responsibly and you've got little reason to worry.

The issue is, should banning going be an issue, just how can you actualise that?
Infact, you'll end up creating more issues as, people would gamble indiscriminately between themselves and with no proper authority to measure fir fairness and ensure regulations, it would result in chaos.

as you said, it may indeed create the proliferation of the black market. so why would the government do that? better regulate it as they can get taxes from it, rather than totally banning this industry and just let this operate underground. gambling will always be a part of human history, so i don't think banning today will do any good for people. it depends on the person himself how he will tackle his gambling activities. and no matter what it is already part of the human existence.

Being on the smart side then government would really be definitely thinking up that way or having those consideration that rather than on banning it then why not regulate and allow it? as you said that they could get

benefit from it considering that it could still generate some tax since this type of business is profitable and there's no point if they would ban it which people would really be finding ways or path for them to gamble

out and with todays condition and situation about connectivity then it would really be simple on accessing things without being caught thats why banning it would be pointless or useless.
If ever its banned then expect that illegal places will really be increasing in numbers since there's still demand into it.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

The government can ban gambling but it doesn't mean they can ban people from accessing illegal gambling. Banning gambling will give more negative result than regulating it. If a government banne gambling the citizen who are engaging in gambling activity are now breaking the law, they might get imprisoned or put to jail where the government shoulder all the expenses of the prisoner. The banning of gambling activities doesn't prevent people from gambling and becoming gambling addicts.
So banning gambling is a loss, but regulating is I think a win-win scenario.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on July 27, 2022, 03:21:22 PM

Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Banning gambling wont be much of a difficult decision to consider by the government should it be a thing that is harming its citizens for which, I am not sure gambling is exactly doing that. It goes beyond what revenue the government might be generating off gambling becuase, they could also do that from legalising drugs but the effects on citizens is what becomes of great concern and gambling isn't exactly tha harmful. You've just got to gamble responsibly and you've got little reason to worry.

The issue is, should banning going be an issue, just how can you actualise that?
Infact, you'll end up creating more issues as, people would gamble indiscriminately between themselves and with no proper authority to measure fir fairness and ensure regulations, it would result in chaos.

as you said, it may indeed create the proliferation of the black market. so why would the government do that? better regulate it as they can get taxes from it, rather than totally banning this industry and just let this operate underground. gambling will always be a part of human history, so i don't think banning today will do any good for people. it depends on the person himself how he will tackle his gambling activities. and no matter what it is already part of the human existence.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 27, 2022, 02:42:45 PM

I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

Banning gambling wont be much of a difficult decision to consider by the government should it be a thing that is harming its citizens for which, I am not sure gambling is exactly doing that. It goes beyond what revenue the government might be generating off gambling becuase, they could also do that from legalising drugs but the effects on citizens is what becomes of great concern and gambling isn't exactly tha harmful. You've just got to gamble responsibly and you've got little reason to worry.

The issue is, should banning going be an issue, just how can you actualise that?
Infact, you'll end up creating more issues as, people would gamble indiscriminately between themselves and with no proper authority to measure fir fairness and ensure regulations, it would result in chaos.

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I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible, the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 26, 2022, 01:37:15 PM

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Because there is online gambling and there are many ways to avoid that restriction that they do even online. Users can bypass that restriction by using VPN and as long as the online casino, crypto or fiat allows that per user then they can easily gamble back and forth, at any time that they wish to do.

That is why banning gambling activities will be just a nonsense act of the government because they cannot really stop the people from gambling because we are now in the time where technologies are so modern that even the government itself is still struggling to keep up and things will get expensive if they will exhaust some funds just to track citizens who are still gambling online or in-house casinos.
They are just wasting funds that could have some better use, they better think of regulations and not banning because the revenue that is generated by the casinos can be truly helpful to the country.

True, those gamblers that are not aware of the usage of VPN will eventually find it out how to use one if they're eager to gamble online. That's what the government wouldn't know or they probably know about it but they don't want to tell it because like I've said, they'll eventually know it no matter. The matter is that they've just made a law and that's it, it's good to be followed and as a government that's what they do but still, there really are a lot of ways of accessing it and they can't stop people doing those methods.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 26, 2022, 01:37:15 PM

That is why banning gambling activities will be just a nonsense act of the government because they cannot really stop the people from gambling because we are now in the time where technologies are so modern that even the government itself is still struggling to keep up and things will get expensive if they will exhaust some funds just to track citizens who are still gambling online or in-house casinos.
They are just wasting funds that could have some better use, they better think of regulations and not banning because the revenue that is generated by the casinos can be truly helpful to the country.

That is what governments do not seem to understand, it is true that the advancements we have seen lately when it comes to our technology allows the governments to track way more effectively their citizens, but at the same time it allows their citizens to resits those surveillance efforts if they want.

Banning gambling is a terrible idea because if they do so then people will keep gambling anyway, they will have to spend a fortune trying to enforce such law and eventually they will have to make gambling legal again anyway, so why waste their time in something that will be completely useless?

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Quote from: mirakal on July 26, 2022, 01:37:15 PM

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Quote from: og kush420 on July 25, 2022, 05:40:10 AM

Gambling can never be banned - it is the life support for the people and sometime it is very helpful for the economy for bringing in the revenue.

There is no question about the gambling industry helping to bring revenue to a country. But do not generalize that it's the "life support" of everyone.

Quote from: og kush420 on July 25, 2022, 05:40:10 AM

However even in the countries where gambling is banned - now they have found the ways to gamble and there is no stopping. People would not let the gambling banned.

Because there is online gambling and there are many ways to avoid that restriction that they do even online. Users can bypass that restriction by using VPN and as long as the online casino, crypto or fiat allows that per user then they can easily gamble back and forth, at any time that they wish to do.

That is why banning gambling activities will be just a nonsense act of the government because they cannot really stop the people from gambling because we are now in the time where technologies are so modern that even the government itself is still struggling to keep up and things will get expensive if they will exhaust some funds just to track citizens who are still gambling online or in-house casinos.
They are just wasting funds that could have some better use, they better think of regulations and not banning because the revenue that is generated by the casinos can be truly helpful to the country.

Its really futile on making out such decision because of the accessibility today then regarding on banning things which do involves online then it would really be rather a difficult thing to be done.

If they do able to get rid of gambling just because government doesnt really like for their citizens to get addicted then its a right initiative but this one would be applied into those countries which does have other
revenue sources with other industries and losing gambling area wont really be an issue for them then its their call on doing so.
But as said that it would be pointless because accessing sites without being caught nor committing violation would really be easy as pie and people could still play whenever they want
without being caught or traced up.

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Quote from: blockman on July 25, 2022, 06:53:17 PM

Quote from: og kush420 on July 25, 2022, 05:40:10 AM

Gambling can never be banned - it is the life support for the people and sometime it is very helpful for the economy for bringing in the revenue.

There is no question about the gambling industry helping to bring revenue to a country. But do not generalize that it's the "life support" of everyone.

Quote from: og kush420 on July 25, 2022, 05:40:10 AM

However even in the countries where gambling is banned - now they have found the ways to gamble and there is no stopping. People would not let the gambling banned.

Because there is online gambling and there are many ways to avoid that restriction that they do even online. Users can bypass that restriction by using VPN and as long as the online casino, crypto or fiat allows that per user then they can easily gamble back and forth, at any time that they wish to do.

That is why banning gambling activities will be just a nonsense act of the government because they cannot really stop the people from gambling because we are now in the time where technologies are so modern that even the government itself is still struggling to keep up and things will get expensive if they will exhaust some funds just to track citizens who are still gambling online or in-house casinos.
They are just wasting funds that could have some better use, they better think of regulations and not banning because the revenue that is generated by the casinos can be truly helpful to the country.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on July 26, 2022, 02:24:21 AM

I would consider myself left libertarian in terms of political stance. I think something being addictive or dangerous doesn't mean it should be banned. Gambling is industry that helps many people (workers) to make a living. Its just another business based mainly on luck. I think best to do is to limit kids from gambling but completely permit other people. This is my idea on this topic in general. Gambling should not be banned.

I support your point of view. I believe that a complete ban of gambling is not the way out of the situation as those who cannot control themselves will find problems in any case even if gambling is banned and to deprive responsible gamblers of gambling is a violation of their personal rights to freedom of choice.

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 25, 2022, 06:57:04 PM

Quote from: blockman on July 25, 2022, 06:53:17 PM

There is no question about the gambling industry helping to bring revenue to a country. But do not generalize that it's the "life support" of everyone.

The truth is that anyone can say that, but when someone starts playing things really change. I don't mean you react on the basis of losing. However, it is very important. I mean, you come to the casino with a desire to win, and that's a mistake.

That's everyone's desire in gambling, we all want to win but you don't have control over the outcome. Well, everyone can say anything what they want to say but there are somethings that we can't connect to the lives of most.

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Quote from: blockman on July 25, 2022, 06:53:17 PM

There is no question about the gambling industry helping to bring revenue to a country. But do not generalize that it's the "life support" of everyone.

I think the figure of speech used was just too much but at some point, that's a fact for a country where the gambling industry is big.

A good example is Macau were around 80% of the revenue came from gambling. If that industry crashes, the country will be doomed as other industries there are not performing well to support the whole operation of that place.

But if the user means literally that gambling is "life support" for everyone, then that's wrong.

We can understand that for those countries that have life blood through gambling like Macau and places like Las Vegas. But to connect it to the real life of everyone, there are boundaries that we can't tie it up.

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In my opinion, you can surely get mixed opinions from people that have experience with playing online gambling but for me, I am not against anything it will surely depend on the place to ban online gambling if that place has many addicted people then they should ban it depending on the majority of people wanting it, but if it got more positivity than the negative I think we can limit online gambling in some places because in my opinion being addicted and hooked can be controlled it will surely depend on the person's mindset,

And depending on my mindset, I can say playing online gambling has those up and downs up there are those thrills in winning and losing and you get to experience that but don't get hooked from it, controlling one emotion will surely save you for me to limit your self in playing casino gambling is a good thing,

And lastly instead of playing online Casino Gambling play more online Sports betting instead,

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Quote from: yazher on July 25, 2022, 10:13:20 PM

Quote from: og kush420 on July 25, 2022, 05:40:10 AM

Gambling can never be banned - it is the life support for the people and sometime it is very helpful for the economy for bringing in the revenue.
However even in the countries where gambling is banned - now they have found the ways to gamble and there is no stopping. People would not let the gambling banned.

In those countries, they saw the harm of gambling and decided to completely banned it to make sure they will lower the risk of their people's depression because as we already know, there are lots of people who lost compared to winning when it comes to gambling. But some people are just hard-headed and pursue their high-risk hobbies even though their governments forbid them from doing so. When they messed up themselves, they don't have anyone to blame but their own desire, and their government are free of what they have done with their life.

I don't support that gambling should be banned especially in this modern world of liberty. Internet and especially Bitcoin has brought some kinds of liberty and it will not make sense that government or authorities will deprive people this liberty. The best that should be done to gambling is some kinds of regulations that will protect children and ensure that number of addicts are reduced.

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