Topic: Do you believe in god? - page 130. (Read 316048 times)

Are you saying that the prayers of "God please don't let this  happen", or "God please stop this" were not directed at your God?

I think Tim Minchin sums this up the best....

Now I understand a prayer can work:
A particular prayer in a particular church
In a particular style with a particular stuff
And for particular problems that aren't particularly tough,
And for particular people, preferably white
And for particular senses, preferably sight
A particular prayer in a particular spot
To a particular version of a particular god

And if you get that right, he just might
Take a break from giving babies malaria
And pop down to your local area
And fix the cataracts of your mum!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYDDXo5C0

Well, think about life. Think about one living cell. How many atoms and molecules are in one living cell?

If all these atoms in a non-living, inanimate form had to come together in just the right way to form a living cell, what are the odds against it ever happening... especially if there was no life around at all? The odds against this happening are so great as to render it impossible.

But, let's imagine that it happened. Let's say that all the atoms and molecules of a simple living cell happened, by chance, to come together, in just the right places with relation to each other, to form what a living cell would be like if it existed. It still wouldn't be alive.

Next, the inanimate atoms and molecules would have to be "kick-started" into motion, all at the same time, and in just the right way, for life to exist. The odds against this happening are so great, as well, as to be literally impossible.

But let's say that both of the impossible things happened. The atoms and molecules lined up, and were somehow kick-started into motion in just the right way to form a living cell. Then what would happen? Nature and the chemicals around this new living cell would immediately destroy the life. The odds that the life would not be destroyed by nature around it are so greatly in favor of the destruction, that the life would absolutely and certainly be destroyed. It is impossible that the life would keep on living.

However, if the living cell somehow kept on living, then the the cell would have to gain a whole bunch of extra molecules and atoms in just the right places and at just the right times, and with just the right motions for this cell to divide, thereby forming reproduction. The odds against this happening would be so great that it would be impossible. The cell would die of old age, or of chemical actions in nature surrounding it.

The story of Evolution is a story that says that these impossible-to-happen things happened. Evolution is impossible over and over and over again. Life in nature, through Evolution, is so extremely impossible that there isn't even a hint of a chance that it could happen. Yet science wants us to accept and believe that not only is it viable, but that it really happened this way.

Whatever you request, even if it is not a formal request, is acted on by God. He loves His creation, and answers all requests one way or another. Some requests that are not directed towards Him, are answered by nothing other than the nature of things. Many requests that are directed towards Him are answered by the request being fulfilled directly, by God, in special action.

That's why He is God. Anybody Who can build a universe is way beyond examination in detail. Odds are that He has existed forever, and will continue to do so. Why? Time only exists in this universe that we know. God is from outside the universe in order to have been able to create the universe.

I just wanted to know where does man came from (talking about the first man and woman), if it is indeed proven by science not just any theories or whatever,  I will throw away my belief that God exist

God is rejected, and yet the perspective of the anti theist, that the universe originated on its own, without any purpose or design. And with life and intelligence arising from non life and non intelligence, by chance or billions of lucky miracles could not be more impossible or ludicrous.

Im not sure where you get your odds from but if laziness due being easier not seeking out real answers is the reason you choose to believe in your overlord then so be it. You have to ask though, if your God or gods are real then where did they come from? Whats the odds of your gods just having existed for all time? Pretty slim id say. And had your god existed for all this time then he/she would have already created and destroyed millions of human civilisations and hes not bored yet?

God is Real The chances of all of this complex universe happening without the existence of an involved God who cares about his creation are less than a million billion to one. It is kind of lame to believe in chance when the odds are that low. I don't even bother to play the lottery because a million to one is too low. It's much easier to believe in God than to believe the one in one million billion chance that He does not exist and care about what He made.

So basically what your saying is , if your prayer never got answered then you directed it in the wrong direction? God doesnt answer anyone because he cant, he cant answer your prayers anymore than peter pan can. Praying to zeus, poseidon, or Ares would net you similar results and are just as legitimate as any other Gods. So many to choose from yet none have ever answered anyone. Strange that.

When prayers are not directed to God, they might go unanswered by Him. All the prayers that are directed towards God are answered by Him.

Consider all of your silent requests that were answered, even though you did not direct them towards any god in particular. God answered many of them favorably anyway.

And the millions of prayers that go unanswered. Praying to a god who does not exist.

I agree.... believe the witnesses.

obviously i believe in god and also assume that we all are the creature of god .it is also saying by scientist and doctor .for example there are some critical situations at which all thought and technique of doctor or scientist become fail then in such cases they have also used to believe in god and that situation is hold in lastly.so if they can believe in god then why not we believe.

I am more agnostic on the issue. I don't believe in any deities, but I do not rule out the possibility of one existing. I'm more of a guy that would want to see evidence rather than believe blindly. That's just me though.

Yes I do believe in God because there is something who is operating this world making us workable, otherwise we won't be able to get up..... So yes something's super natural power exist there

God is everywhere I believe.

God can make the world good. There are two ways He can do it:
1. Take your freedom of thought away so that you are controlled by instinct, like a dumb animal, or...
2. Take those people to Heaven where there will only be good WITH free will, while sending the bad to Hell, where there will only be bad.

God chose #2. Which part of God's choice do you want? Better figure it out soon. There is no changing of mind in the grave, and the default for people who have the opportunity to select, but don't, is Hell.

Believe the witnesses. That is what the New Testament is all about... eye witnesses.

I wonder how do you know that Jesus rose? You personally seen alive? How can you believe in biblical tales? How can you believe in justice if your non-existent God cannot make the world good. Where you the guarantee that he did a good afterlife?

Tell me specifically what you see around you such that could create but God? All those who believe only speaks in platitudes and words of the sermons. You tell me specifically and arguments. Without them it's just words.

Yes I do believe in god because many things if you look observe things around you you'll find it's only god gift to us.