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legendary
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January 23, 2017, 12:51:58 AM
François-Marie Arouet (Voltaire) [1768], "Response to the author of the book, The Three Impostors"

"My lodging is filled with lizards and rats;
But the architect exists, and anyone who denies it
Is touched with madness under the guise of wisdom.
Consult Zoroaster, and Minos, and Solon,
And the martyr Socrates, and the great Cicero:
They all adored a master, a judge, a father.
This sublime system is necessary to man.
It is the sacred tie that binds society,
The first foundation of holy equity,
The bridle to the wicked, the hope of the just.

If the heavens, stripped of his noble imprint,
Could ever cease to attest to his being,
If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
Let the wise man announce him and kings fear him.
Kings, if you oppress me, if your eminencies disdain
The tears of the innocent that you cause to flow,
My avenger is in the heavens: learn to tremble.
Such, at least, is the fruit of a useful creed.

But you, faulty logician, whose sad foolishness
Dares to reassure them in the path of crime,
What fruit do you expect to reap from your fine arguments?
Will your children be more obedient to your voice?
Your friends, at time of need, more useful and reliable?
Your wife more honest? and your new renter,
For not believing in God, will he pay you better?
Alas! let's leave intact human belief in fear and hope.
...
I see from afar that era coming, those happy days,
When philosophy, enlightening humanity,
Must lead them in peace to the feet of the common master;
Frightful fanaticism will tremble to appear there:
There will be less dogma with more virtue. "
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January 22, 2017, 11:30:37 PM
There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture
What about the big bang theory?


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?


Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

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So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.
legendary
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January 22, 2017, 11:05:17 PM
There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture
What about the big bang theory?


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?


Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

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January 22, 2017, 10:25:29 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)


Exactly i believe in god, because if there is something that creates by something, so it is impossible something can be created by himself with his own efforts. Example: you know chair as well, but the chair can be like that if nothing someone created it.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
January 22, 2017, 10:11:17 PM
There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture
What about the big bang theory?


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?


Maybe they all just kept fucking Eve until she had a girl baby. LOL

Don't try to make sense of the Bible. It's not a particularly well written book.
legendary
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January 22, 2017, 03:37:09 PM
There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture
What about the big bang theory?


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?
legendary
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January 22, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
Nature acts like a complex machine made up of multitudes of complex machines. Machines have makers.

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January 22, 2017, 02:50:07 PM
There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture
legendary
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January 22, 2017, 02:35:07 PM


The Bible is a book of facts
. As science theory expands into belief in things that are not fact (science theory), the Bible certainly is NOT a book of science. Science is becoming a religion of science fiction, all because of faith in theory which is not fact.

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EDIT: Thank you guys, again, for helping to show the foolishness of science-theory-religion... that it is not factual until it has become science law.


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

Your Bible states:
Leviticus 18:6: “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord."

So as Badecker has stated the Bible is a book of facts, he obviously believes in incest.

BADecker, you are sick!

EDIT: Thank you BADecker, again, for helping to show the foolishness of religion.

You intentionally forget to mention that the world shortly after the Beginning was extremely much healthier than it was at the time Leviticus was written. Only after hundreds of years of intentional corruption by people, was it that the strength to repair their genetic flaws, naturally, finally left them.

Thanks again for showing that you are deliberately trying to corrupt yourself and your hearers further.

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January 22, 2017, 04:48:24 AM


The Bible is a book of facts
. As science theory expands into belief in things that are not fact (science theory), the Bible certainly is NOT a book of science. Science is becoming a religion of science fiction, all because of faith in theory which is not fact.

Cool

EDIT: Thank you guys, again, for helping to show the foolishness of science-theory-religion... that it is not factual until it has become science law.


If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

Your Bible states:
Leviticus 18:6: “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord."

So as Badecker has stated the Bible is a book of facts, he obviously believes in incest.

BADecker, you are sick!

EDIT: Thank you BADecker, again, for helping to show the foolishness of religion.
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January 21, 2017, 03:54:44 AM
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We will know who this originator is in the near future Wink..
If the dumb shit got trapped we humans will un trap the originator and find out what it wanted to do..

My bets it has nothing to do with the bible..I.E man like being went zap and made it so.
Even the rib thing is a bit hard to swallow  Grin.

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January 21, 2017, 03:21:57 AM

The might-be "Originator(s)" might have made some initial calculations on setting forces (gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear) into motion with mass and energy added into the mix, coupled with an pre-disposed expansion of space and time movement. Many many many years ago in a bygone era, before all bygone eras, this supposed "Originator(s)", who existed in a different kind of time, not this time our universe has, thought that a vast expansion was doable. The whole thing had to be very precise, since certain constants of this universe were to be set as well. The trick was to fine-tune the whole thing so the operating principles of that other "universe" (for lack of better word), which actually is (was) very very different than this universe and its principles, didn't get mixed in with this particular universe of which we are a minute part. There was an inflection point, where the operating principles of this other "universe" induced the circumstances necessary to get this universe going.

The initial calculations were calculated and then the "Originator(s)" went ahead and Banged this Universe. Something went very wrong however, and the Bang was far greater than what the calculations indicated it to be. In fact the Bang was so Big, that the "Originator(s)" (who planned on being present in this Universe where we now live (although much later of course)), got SHOT BACK across the inflection point between this Universe and the other "universe" and unfortunately are now trapped in the other "universe". Because of the particularity of the universal principles built into this universe, as was planned in the calculations before making it happen, the process is not reversible in between cycles. (A cycle is in fact the actual lifespan of a universe, before another universe is constructed).

So poor old "Originator(s)" is now lost in the other "universe" and sort of trapped over there (in the sense of not being able to be present here). Only after this cycle is finished will "Originator(s)" be able to be present. This is also the reason why this universe feels like a clockwork universe, like its all grand and sophisticated and such, but there isn't a satisfying connection between the human species and the "Originator(s)".

In the mean time, humans do all kinds of weird things to try and sort things out over here on Earth, and to try and get a grip on who, how, when and where. Things turned out a bit of a mess with lots of problems arising and everyone tries his best to show how correct he is in his position of how things work.

I just feel so sad for the "Originator(s)", being trapped in that other "universe" and not able to be here and enjoy and directly influence what is going on here on Earth in a positive manner. Things would have been better had that been the case. At least I know that that was the intention. It was in the planning but a awful miscalculation changed everything from that point on. The wait is so long to get things back to the way it was supposed to be. Unfortunately we will all be long gone by that time.


I dug a hole and fell in but no ones there to help me get out Cheesy..The Originator..

I built a ladder and then dug a hole when i fell in i could climb out  Grin..The human Wink
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January 21, 2017, 02:56:26 AM

The might-be "Originator(s)" might have made some initial calculations on setting forces (gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear) into motion with mass and energy added into the mix, coupled with an pre-disposed expansion of space and time movement. Many many many years ago in a bygone era, before all bygone eras, this supposed "Originator(s)", who existed in a different kind of time, not this time our universe has, thought that a vast expansion was doable. The whole thing had to be very precise, since certain constants of this universe were to be set as well. The trick was to fine-tune the whole thing so the operating principles of that other "universe" (for lack of better word), which actually is (was) very very different than this universe and its principles, didn't get mixed in with this particular universe of which we are a minute part. There was an inflection point, where the operating principles of this other "universe" induced the circumstances necessary to get this universe going.

The initial calculations were calculated and then the "Originator(s)" went ahead and Banged this Universe. Something went very wrong however, and the Bang was far greater than what the calculations indicated it to be. In fact the Bang was so Big, that the "Originator(s)" (who planned on being present in this Universe where we now live (although much later of course)), got SHOT BACK across the inflection point between this Universe and the other "universe" and unfortunately are now trapped in the other "universe". Because of the particularity of the universal principles built into this universe, as was planned in the calculations before making it happen, the process is not reversible in between cycles. (A cycle is in fact the actual lifespan of a universe, before another universe is constructed).

So poor old "Originator(s)" is now lost in the other "universe" and sort of trapped over there (in the sense of not being able to be present here). Only after this cycle is finished will "Originator(s)" be able to be present. This is also the reason why this universe feels like a clockwork universe, like its all grand and sophisticated and such, but there isn't a satisfying connection between the human species and the "Originator(s)".

In the mean time, humans do all kinds of weird things to try and sort things out over here on Earth, and to try and get a grip on who, how, when and where. Things turned out a bit of a mess with lots of problems arising and everyone tries his best to show how correct he is in his position of how things work.

I just feel so sad for the "Originator(s)", being trapped in that other "universe" and not able to be here and enjoy and directly influence what is going on here on Earth in a positive manner. Things would have been better had that been the case. At least I know that that was the intention. It was in the planning but a awful miscalculation changed everything from that point on. The wait is so long to get things back to the way it was supposed to be. Unfortunately we will all be long gone by that time.

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January 20, 2017, 02:59:35 PM
It seems to me that religion is the continuation of the policy of the state. I doubt that the presidents of the great powers genuinely believe in God, but they maintain the existence of religion and even exempt from tax.
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January 20, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
The Bible is the best information we have. It is records, faithfully copied and handed down over thousands of years. The faithfulness of the Bible is shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people who wrote the Bible did it because something miraculous was happening to them and in their lives. The Bible is the best record of the past that we have.

Neal Adams talks about and has made videos about the Pangea of the earth, and that the earth was divide over millions of years, into the continents that exist now. However, he doesn't have any factual basis for the time that he says it took. From Genesis 10:25
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Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

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Science is the best information we have, not something some people wrote in Constantinipole if the 4th century AD.

It's funny that people want to trust things written in a book by poorly educated superstitious tribal people thousands of years ago but they don't trust things in a book written by well educated people that are still alive and can be questioned.
It's funny only at first glance. Really not very funny that in today's world so many crazy people. I think that most people who say that believe in God just follow the fashion for faith in God.

You might enjoy the comparison of intelligence to Christianity in countries.




The intelligence scores came from work carried out earlier this decade by Richard Lynn, a British psychologist, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish political scientist, who analysed IQ studies from 113 countries, and from subsequent work by Jelte Wicherts, a Dutch psychologist.

Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.

country/IQ score

Singapore   108
South Korea   106
Japan   105
Italy   102
Iceland   101
Mongolia   101
Switzerland   101
Austria   100
Luxembourg   100
Netherlands   100
Norway   100
United Kingdom   100
Belgium   99
Canada   99
Estonia   99
Finland   99
New Zealand   99
Poland   99
Sweden   99
Andorra   98
Australia   98
Czech Republic   98
Denmark   98
France   98
Hungary   98
Latvia   98
Spain   98
Belarus           97
Malta           97
Russia           97
Ukraine           97
Germany           96
Moldova           96
Slovakia           96
Slovenia           96
Uruguay           96
Israel           95
Portugal           95
Armenia           94
China           93
United States   92
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Mexico        86
Brazil          86
Philippines   86
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Congo, Republic of the   76
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Nigeria        69

Ethiopia   Untested
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January 20, 2017, 12:57:00 PM
The Bible is the best information we have. It is records, faithfully copied and handed down over thousands of years. The faithfulness of the Bible is shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people who wrote the Bible did it because something miraculous was happening to them and in their lives. The Bible is the best record of the past that we have.

Neal Adams talks about and has made videos about the Pangea of the earth, and that the earth was divide over millions of years, into the continents that exist now. However, he doesn't have any factual basis for the time that he says it took. From Genesis 10:25
Quote
Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

Cool

Science is the best information we have, not something some people wrote in Constantinipole if the 4th century AD.

It's funny that people want to trust things written in a book by poorly educated superstitious tribal people thousands of years ago but they don't trust things in a book written by well educated people that are still alive and can be questioned.
It's funny only at first glance. Really not very funny that in today's world so many crazy people. I think that most people who say that believe in God just follow the fashion for faith in God.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
January 20, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
The Bible is the best information we have. It is records, faithfully copied and handed down over thousands of years. The faithfulness of the Bible is shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people who wrote the Bible did it because something miraculous was happening to them and in their lives. The Bible is the best record of the past that we have.

Neal Adams talks about and has made videos about the Pangea of the earth, and that the earth was divide over millions of years, into the continents that exist now. However, he doesn't have any factual basis for the time that he says it took. From Genesis 10:25
Quote
Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

Cool

Science is the best information we have, not something some people wrote in Constantinipole if the 4th century AD.

It's funny that people want to trust things written in a book by poorly educated superstitious tribal people thousands of years ago but they don't trust things in a book written by well educated people that are still alive and can be questioned.
legendary
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January 20, 2017, 12:36:52 PM
The Bible is the best information we have. It is records, faithfully copied and handed down over thousands of years. The faithfulness of the Bible is shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people who wrote the Bible did it because something miraculous was happening to them and in their lives. The Bible is the best record of the past that we have.

Neal Adams talks about and has made videos about the Pangea of the earth, and that the earth was divide over millions of years, into the continents that exist now. However, he doesn't have any factual basis for the time that he says it took. From Genesis 10:25
Quote
Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

Cool

Science is the best information we have, not something some people wrote in Constantinipole if the 4th century AD.
legendary
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January 20, 2017, 12:07:10 PM
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Like I said the Bible is not a book of scientific facts. And also I said that only God can answer the work of God. If you have problems when was the world created, did God create the universe in 6 days, did God create man from dirt, Did God create the first woman (Eve) from Adams rib or bone, my answer is simple you ask God. I was not there when God created the world and Adam. If I were a God I can answer you but I am not. And another thing do not read the bible literally like science books does, the bible is more complicated since it is a compilation of the works of different cultures that is so different from us.

Can you ask God to answer it here, right here on this forum?  I don't see or hear ghosts, devils and
Gods. I am sane.  

If you can talk to God you are religious (medical term), if God talks back to you, you are insane.

So you admit that Bible is scientifically inaccurate, right?  Bible said that God created Eve from Adam's rib.  So, do YOU believe it happened like the BIBLE says?

If you do, you are a bronze age moron.
The Bible is the book does not even have the right to be called science fiction. It is nonsense to crazy. All that is written in the Bible on the topic of the universe is contrary to science and common sense.


The Bible is a book of facts. As science theory expands into belief in things that are not fact (science theory), the Bible certainly is NOT a book of science. Science is becoming a religion of science fiction, all because of faith in theory which is not fact.

Cool

EDIT: Thank you guys, again, for helping to show the foolishness of science-theory-religion... that it is not factual until it has become science law.

So the answer to the following questions is YES!

Was the Earth created by God 6000-7000 years ago?
Was the universe created by God in 6 days?
Did God create man from dirt?
Did God create the first woman (Eve) from Adam's rib bone?

Say it, I dare you.

If I said "yes," it would be by faith rather than out of knowledge. The interesting part is that we have no knowledge that counters the Bible. This means that everyone who contradicts what the Bible says, is doing it by faith, as well. Science-theory-religion.

Cool

The Bible is the best information we have. It is records, faithfully copied and handed down over thousands of years. The faithfulness of the Bible is shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people who wrote the Bible did it because something miraculous was happening to them and in their lives. The Bible is the best record of the past that we have.

Neal Adams talks about and has made videos about the Pangea of the earth, and that the earth was divide over millions of years, into the continents that exist now. However, he doesn't have any factual basis for the time that he says it took. From Genesis 10:25
Quote
Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

Cool
legendary
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January 20, 2017, 11:45:09 AM
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Like I said the Bible is not a book of scientific facts. And also I said that only God can answer the work of God. If you have problems when was the world created, did God create the universe in 6 days, did God create man from dirt, Did God create the first woman (Eve) from Adams rib or bone, my answer is simple you ask God. I was not there when God created the world and Adam. If I were a God I can answer you but I am not. And another thing do not read the bible literally like science books does, the bible is more complicated since it is a compilation of the works of different cultures that is so different from us.

Can you ask God to answer it here, right here on this forum?  I don't see or hear ghosts, devils and
Gods. I am sane.  

If you can talk to God you are religious (medical term), if God talks back to you, you are insane.

So you admit that Bible is scientifically inaccurate, right?  Bible said that God created Eve from Adam's rib.  So, do YOU believe it happened like the BIBLE says?

If you do, you are a bronze age moron.
The Bible is the book does not even have the right to be called science fiction. It is nonsense to crazy. All that is written in the Bible on the topic of the universe is contrary to science and common sense.


The Bible is a book of facts. As science theory expands into belief in things that are not fact (science theory), the Bible certainly is NOT a book of science. Science is becoming a religion of science fiction, all because of faith in theory which is not fact.

Cool

EDIT: Thank you guys, again, for helping to show the foolishness of science-theory-religion... that it is not factual until it has become science law.

So the answer to the following questions is YES!

Was the Earth created by God 6000-7000 years ago?
Was the universe created by God in 6 days?
Did God create man from dirt?
Did God create the first woman (Eve) from Adam's rib bone?

Say it, I dare you.

If I said "yes," it would be by faith rather than out of knowledge. The interesting part is that we have no knowledge that counters the Bible. This means that everyone who contradicts what the Bible says, is doing it by faith, as well. Science-theory-religion.

Cool
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