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January 02, 2017, 05:35:54 PM
I'm agnostic. I believe that a god's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. I cannot say for certain that a god does exist, and I cannot say for certain that a god does not exist. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.
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January 02, 2017, 03:47:23 PM
All of us are blessed with lots of beautiful things and moments each and every single day.


That's why miracles happen and people heal and why the prayer has so much power.
If you're claiming miracles happen, you also have to claim you know how everything in the universe works in order to call it a miracle.


It's a miracle that you can even finish eating that whatever-it-is in your avatar.

From Dictionary.com at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/miracle?s=t:
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miracle
[mir-uh-kuh l]

noun
1. an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.

2. such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.

3. a wonder; marvel.

4. a wonderful or surpassing example of some quality:
a miracle of modern acoustics.

5. miracle play.


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January 02, 2017, 03:41:30 PM

So far, no God has been detected outside of human brains.



So far, absolutely nothing has been detected outside of human brains. [Any and all detection of all-that-is, is made by brains-in-bodies].

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January 02, 2017, 03:03:26 PM
All of us are blessed with lots of beautiful things and moments each and every single day.


That's why miracles happen and people heal and why the prayer has so much power.
If you're claiming miracles happen, you also have to claim you know how everything in the universe works in order to call it a miracle.


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January 02, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
I do believe in God. All of us are blessed with lots of beautiful things and moments each and every single day. Someone is looking out for us. That's why miracles happen and people heal and why the prayer has so much power. This is all because of our heavenly father.
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
January 02, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
Anything the other what they said for me i am still believing in god.. there is no a problem in believing to god. for me much better to believe even i don't see them or even some of my wishes still not granted i still believe in god.. because do you think where our soul will go after death?
So i think there is 2 direction of the souls heaven or hell.. so if you are not believing in god i think you will be directly your soul into hell..
Also how earth been made all in this world and galaxy? who do you think who made to them?


Spoken like a true gambler. You don't really believe, you're simply hedging your bets. LOL
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January 02, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
Anything the other what they said for me i am still believing in god.. there is no a problem in believing to god. for me much better to believe even i don't see them or even some of my wishes still not granted i still believe in god.. because do you think where our soul will go after death?
So i think there is 2 direction of the souls heaven or hell.. so if you are not believing in god i think you will be directly your soul into hell..
Also how earth been made all in this world and galaxy? who do you think who made to them?
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January 02, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
What if BADecker is actually a satanist with naked little girls tied to alters in his basement and this thread is just a tool his master helps him convert people to Satan. Because, honestly, no one is that stupid unless they're trolling. My mind would be blown.

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January 02, 2017, 10:58:11 AM
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The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did.

The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically.

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So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!!  Please, you do not really believe that!!!

Talk about lazy and unsure God.

The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions.

Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food.
Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population.  This created problems.

It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers.  But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people.
So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators.

This helped to reduce crime.  That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people.


First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all.

The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that.

And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe.

Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Göbekli Tepe is from 10th millennium BCE, way outside 'your creation date' of circa 4000 BCE.
You were there back then? You know somebody who was there back then? When you look into the papers and books from many of the scientists who date things, they express that their dating is just a guestimation, and that they really don't know.



Graham Hancock is a writer.  So you like his novels; I'm not surprised.  Not sure what this has anything to do with reality.
The Graham Hancock videos show that standard archaeology is way off in their idea that ancient peoples were simple hunter gatherers. The standard hunter-gatherer stuff is made up, just to cover up the idea that people of prehistory were far greater than we think, and even than we ARE. It is also made up to downplay the knowledge that God exists.



You want to learn about human history, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Noah_Harari  is a historian, he specializes in world history.


There is enough accurate history in the Bible.

Cool

There we go again.  You have just hanged yourself again.

Neuroscientists know where your God exist.  
Call any university that has a strong Neuroscience research program, they should be able to locate God in your brain without any problems.

Try to read from more than one book.


Perhaps when you get to the starting point, then you will be able to move ahead in your understanding. The starting point is recognizing that God exists, through the science proof, and through the fact of the existence of the universe.

Until then, you are always going to remain mixed up in your thinking.

Cool

You really have trouble understanding what science is and how it works.

Let me explain how science works.

If you were given a task of proving that God exists,  you would have to do the following:

1. First, you would have to assume that God does not exist.
2. Collect physical evidence, make measurements, collect the data on your God etc.
3. Analyse the data
4. Publish your findings
5. Your peers (experts in God-ology) would review your data, examine data in 2, REPEAT your experiment
6. If your proof/data passes the peer review, it is published in God-ology Journal
7. Now the fun part starts, every scientist in the world would try to re-validate your data to see
   if they might be able to show inconsistencies (and make the name for themselves, maybe win a Nobel Prize)

This is how any scientific theory is validated in the lab.

Unfortunately for your God, you can only do step 1.

Hint: Literary works are not scientific data.  When was last time someone used Shakespearean play to validate the String Theory, or determine a Cosmological constant?

After steps 1-7, you still would have go through the same steps to prove that the God you discovered in 1-7, is YOUR Christian God.


In order to find physical evidence about God, scientists will have to research beyond time and space, and come to the moment before universe was created, and when time and space, and material things, didn't exist.
Can they do it?
Of course not.
So, they can't research God really.

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January 02, 2017, 04:43:56 AM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there.

And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional.


Perhaps if you took the time to figure out the science that proves that God exists, perhaps then you could come to accurate conclusions about the things that God does, and the way He works. But since you don't even want to take the time to ask questions about the parts of the proof that you don't understand, no wonder you come to faulty conclusions about God.

Cool

How many times do we have to point it out that posting your own posts as evidence doesn't count, you jsut look stupid. I stil haven't seen any article or a small thing that hints to science proving gods existance...

Strange god, stats, you say? it's not that strange, like hwo he ordered people to kill the heretics, how he destroyed two cities for sins, how he sent his own son to die, how he aparently loves us all as his children but will still send us to hell for an eternaly, how he will doom you if you dont recognize him as the only god... a truly strange, masochist, egocentric, angry god...

You are really good at warping a bunch of things about God. Look at the reasons He did what He did. They all have to do with attempts to save people from their own self-destruction.

Of course my posts aren't evidence. The evidence is the information within the posts. You can find oodles of it all over the Net if you look. You can't find any information on the Net at all if you don't look.

Cool

But you have stated numerous times BADecker that if people want evidence they should look at your links (which are your own words to prove a useless point) which the rest of us do not admit are valid evidence based facts.


No warping about your god. We write things from history (which is proven from more than one source) and from your Bible. We examine both sides of the arguement whilst you cannot seem to do.

Saving people by killing them ......... hmmmm if I punch you in the head and say that I did it to stop someone else from punching you in the head.... does that work for you?
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January 02, 2017, 04:13:35 AM
Yes I do. Unlike some, I've not been raised in Catholicism, but I embrassed it myself, when a teenager. It is so logical. Bible is Truth, and there is so many miracles and things you can't explain. Humans couldn't have been created by the evolution, but by God for exemple.
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January 02, 2017, 01:43:55 AM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there.

And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional.


Perhaps if you took the time to figure out the science that proves that God exists, perhaps then you could come to accurate conclusions about the things that God does, and the way He works. But since you don't even want to take the time to ask questions about the parts of the proof that you don't understand, no wonder you come to faulty conclusions about God.

Cool

How many times do we have to point it out that posting your own posts as evidence doesn't count, you jsut look stupid. I stil haven't seen any article or a small thing that hints to science proving gods existance...

Strange god, stats, you say? it's not that strange, like hwo he ordered people to kill the heretics, how he destroyed two cities for sins, how he sent his own son to die, how he aparently loves us all as his children but will still send us to hell for an eternaly, how he will doom you if you dont recognize him as the only god... a truly strange, masochist, egocentric, angry god...

You are really good at warping a bunch of things about God. Look at the reasons He did what He did. They all have to do with attempts to save people from their own self-destruction.

Of course my posts aren't evidence. The evidence is the information within the posts. You can find oodles of it all over the Net if you look. You can't find any information on the Net at all if you don't look.

Cool
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January 02, 2017, 01:38:51 AM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there.

And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional.


Perhaps if you took the time to figure out the science that proves that God exists, perhaps then you could come to accurate conclusions about the things that God does, and the way He works. But since you don't even want to take the time to ask questions about the parts of the proof that you don't understand, no wonder you come to faulty conclusions about God.

Cool

How many times do we have to point it out that posting your own posts as evidence doesn't count, you jsut look stupid. I stil haven't seen any article or a small thing that hints to science proving gods existance...

Strange god, stats, you say? it's not that strange, like hwo he ordered people to kill the heretics, how he destroyed two cities for sins, how he sent his own son to die, how he aparently loves us all as his children but will still send us to hell for an eternaly, how he will doom you if you dont recognize him as the only god... a truly strange, masochist, egocentric, angry god...
legendary
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January 02, 2017, 12:28:30 AM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there.

And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional.


Perhaps if you took the time to figure out the science that proves that God exists, perhaps then you could come to accurate conclusions about the things that God does, and the way He works. But since you don't even want to take the time to ask questions about the parts of the proof that you don't understand, no wonder you come to faulty conclusions about God.

Cool
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January 01, 2017, 11:59:57 PM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there.

And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional.

legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 01, 2017, 11:31:28 PM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?

The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position.

At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool
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January 01, 2017, 11:20:33 PM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

Cool

But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself.

I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why?

When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist?
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January 01, 2017, 10:50:35 PM
....
The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did.

The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically.

Cool

So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!!  Please, you do not really believe that!!!

Talk about lazy and unsure God.

The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions.

Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food.
Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population.  This created problems.

It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers.  But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people.
So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators.

This helped to reduce crime.  That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people.


First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all.

The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that.

And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe.

Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Göbekli Tepe is from 10th millennium BCE, way outside 'your creation date' of circa 4000 BCE.
You were there back then? You know somebody who was there back then? When you look into the papers and books from many of the scientists who date things, they express that their dating is just a guestimation, and that they really don't know.



Graham Hancock is a writer.  So you like his novels; I'm not surprised.  Not sure what this has anything to do with reality.
The Graham Hancock videos show that standard archaeology is way off in their idea that ancient peoples were simple hunter gatherers. The standard hunter-gatherer stuff is made up, just to cover up the idea that people of prehistory were far greater than we think, and even than we ARE. It is also made up to downplay the knowledge that God exists.



You want to learn about human history, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Noah_Harari  is a historian, he specializes in world history.


There is enough accurate history in the Bible.

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There we go again.  You have just hanged yourself again.

Neuroscientists know where your God exist. 
Call any university that has a strong Neuroscience research program, they should be able to locate God in your brain without any problems.

Try to read from more than one book.


Perhaps when you get to the starting point, then you will be able to move ahead in your understanding. The starting point is recognizing that God exists, through the science proof, and through the fact of the existence of the universe.

Until then, you are always going to remain mixed up in your thinking.

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legendary
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January 01, 2017, 10:19:14 PM
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The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did.

The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically.

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So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!!  Please, you do not really believe that!!!

Talk about lazy and unsure God.

The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions.

Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food.
Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population.  This created problems.

It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers.  But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people.
So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators.

This helped to reduce crime.  That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people.


First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all.

The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that.

And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe.

Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Göbekli Tepe is from 10th millennium BCE, way outside 'your creation date' of circa 4000 BCE.
You were there back then? You know somebody who was there back then? When you look into the papers and books from many of the scientists who date things, they express that their dating is just a guestimation, and that they really don't know.



Graham Hancock is a writer.  So you like his novels; I'm not surprised.  Not sure what this has anything to do with reality.
The Graham Hancock videos show that standard archaeology is way off in their idea that ancient peoples were simple hunter gatherers. The standard hunter-gatherer stuff is made up, just to cover up the idea that people of prehistory were far greater than we think, and even than we ARE. It is also made up to downplay the knowledge that God exists.



You want to learn about human history, read:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Noah_Harari  is a historian, he specializes in world history.


There is enough accurate history in the Bible.

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legendary
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January 01, 2017, 10:11:20 PM


Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime.

Cool

And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you.

Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness  and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes?

The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this?

I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them.

Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you.

You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late.

What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself.

I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts?

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