Topic: Do you believe in god? - page 168. (Read 316068 times)

I do believe in god and spirituality is a private thing .so lets keep it between me.

Showing science facts and laws like cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, is extraordinary claims? Seems that you are showing theories, which are not known to be facts.


Thank you for letting us know that you need to console yourself with words like these, just to remain in your atheism faith.


Since God created all things, including science, I thank God for allowing us to have and use science.



You don't happen to a resident at the same funny farm that notbatman and nomad13666 are at, do you?

Perhaps not. But I have shown you what the proof is, so that you can actually go out and find and examine the proof. You haven't done even a touch to refute the proof.


As entropy increases, complexity reduces. People are not as smart or as strong as they once were. That's part of the reason they are finally developing machines and computers... to make up for their reduction in ability.


Big Bang is science fiction. It shouldn't even be considered theory, because there will be no way to prove or disprove it.

If you search for it, you will find that there are at least 3 major different forms of Big Bang Theory. There are at least 4 major forms of Black Hole Theory. None of the black holes formed by any of the Black Hole Theories could exist in any of the universes formed by the Big Bang Theories.

In other words, if people want to play with math and probability enough, they could form any number of Big Bang Theories. None of them will ever be known to be true.


If you really want to know Big Bang as God, you have stated such here. In the long run, entropy will not allow increased intelligence to come from lower intelligence. Intelligence will ultimately always wind up being lower, even though there might be spikes of higher intelligence at times. Cause and effect that produces intelligence must have had much higher intelligence to do it. Thanks for finally expressing that you understand fictional Big Bang to be God. At least you are finally getting real.


Correct. That is why Big Bang is theory. Nobody knows that it is factual. Even if there were some way that a form of BB could be proven to be viable, it would still never be known, scientifically, if this was the way the universe came about.


You are limiting our lack of knowledge. We don't really know much of anything up until the last several hundred years... if that far back. The rest is essentially guesswork. Why? We don't know what forces may have messed with the past that we have not taken into account.


Thank you for expressing some more of your science fiction... or do you have the LAW for your stated science somewhere?


Because BB is a far, far stretch in anyone's imagination.



So? People only discovered the things that God set in place. What's so difficult in understanding this?


The point is, you are trying to prove that there is no God by using non-facts to do it. That's not the way science works. You might have a theory that God doesn't exist. But all you are doing by stating the above as you have, is to stated that you don't KNOW that God doesn't exist. That's not atheism. At most, that is atheism theory.



EDIT: Thanks for trying. You are making the case for God stronger all the time.

So this is why you can't refute the science and evidence that prove and show that God exists. You are unwilling to become scientifically educated enough to understand science, and, apparently, like a brute beast, you are unable to come to the correct conclusion from simple observation.

What did you call this thing you are doing, again? Oh yes. Argument from ignorance.



EDIT: By the way, thanks for lending your support for, and thereby helping to prove, that God exists, by not refuting the proof and evidence that God DOES exist, and yet saying that he does not exist. Your prompting has helped me to show the fact of the existence of God in ways I might have not used had you not pushed me a little. So, thanks.

Try to explain a human being. Try to explain an animal. Try to explain a rock. You can do it partially, but you can't do it completely. We are constantly finding out more about people, animals, and rocks... and our whole universe. So, by your own logic, these things do not exist, because they are not explained, never will be fully explained, and maybe cannot be explained.

Why do you think that God is the sum of everything that exists? Your property is not you. Why must God's property be Him?

Believing is only partially a choice. We naturally believe what we see, hear and understand. A person's expression of what he believes, is never exactly the same as the thing that he believes. If it is the person's intent, his expression may be a complete lie.

We KNOW God exists, even though in our expressions of "things" to ourselves and others, we may not formally acknowledge Him. The evidences and proof for the existence of God are explained briefly here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
But you can find more proof and evidence all over the Internet and in books and in churches and in the Bible, if you are interested in looking.

We KNOW God exists, even though we may not realize we know this. It is to our shame, and it is our folly, that we don't believe what He says.

It is true. The reason why we cannot comprehend or give evidence on God is because of his nature. If God can be explained then he is no longer a God. Remember  the existing God is the summed up of everything there is, not only a force but a conscious powerful being where all precedes and created. Believing now is a matter of choice.

Yes. The complexity of nature confirms this.   

Too heavy indeed if we argue about God, whether God exists ?? Because we talk about God can not be arbitrary. Especially for people who believe that God exists. And I believe that God exists, God is always watching over us, whatever we do, wherever we are. Supervision of the Lord is perfect, far more perfect than man-made CCTV cameras. To those who do not believe in the existence of God, it is up to you, it is your business. And to those who believe in the existence of God, still believe.

Slava rodu! Muslims hate everything... Hindus, jews, christians, atheists... If you ask me, the idea of spirits, elements and demigods that every planet has that has life on it, sound more enlightening and guides you more to work on yourself and work towards the better you and more thinking about the enviroment, rather than the afterlife.

I more believe in good and positive energy.

I also believe in the gods. I confess Slavic paganism. And never I do not impose their faith and their opinions

Being a Hindu, I believe in "gods", rather than a single god. In our religion, there are 330 million gods! That is one of the reasons why the Muslims hate Hinduism so much. For them, Hinduism is the religion of the idol-worshipers.

The machine nature shows that God exists. The fact that there is goodness in a lot that happens to us in life, shows that God is good. The fact that there is trouble in life shows that people and nature became flawed.

The fact of Jesus-salvation shows that God is trying to save us from ourselves. Turn and be saved, before it is too late for you.

Because I don't understand what makes pretty birdies fly, the sun shine and the sky blue it must be god doing it. I also don't understand what makes bad people steal, murder and rape little children that means the devil is doing it. I love simple answers to everything because using my brain too long causes discomfort.

How can you prove that or even know that? How can you even claim that? How do you know he created us? And the last one is such a bullshit I won't even ask any questions.

and the final thing that we come to is that god is an egocentrical deity, if you dont worship him, you're doomed and also that the answer to all prayers are "maybe".

How do you experience that? I've never seen even one indication that points to some sort of god.

Yes. Because even if we cannot see God. He ia always there for us. He is the one wo created us and God is like air. We cannot see but it exist.

If you ask God for help, show you believe in God's power; if God does not help you, show that God believes in you.