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legendary
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October 17, 2017, 08:16:23 PM
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It is strange that even in the 21st century people believe in the theory of evolution.  We can clone animals and humans.  We know how to theoretically organize a big bang and create a universe. But we don't believe that we were created by more advanced people.
Evolution is limited to DNA mutations. But someone created DNACool

How do you know that someone created the DNA?  Do you have ANY proof?

Or this is one of your wipe ass assertions?

Do you have ANY proof transformation of inanimate matter into living matter, incredibly complex DNA construction?
To create DNA without the help of a computer is IMPOSSIBLE.  Cool


If god existed he would have transformed inanimate matter into living matter, wouldn't he? What's your point here exactly?

The point is that there is conversion of inanimate matter into all the time through microbes living in the soil. To some limited extent plants and animals do this as well. Since God set it all up, and since He programs it through cause and effect, God is the One who causes the transfers to happen according to His pleasure.

Cool
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 08:13:01 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

If you imply that complexity is somewhat synonymous with a careful design you are mistaken.

Swiss Watch my ass:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/gravitational-waves-colliding-neutron-stars-05328.html

https://youtu.be/EtIkOjq0_50

Universe is a hostile, violent place.  Not a place to raise a family.

But of course, the writers of the religious texts could have not known that.  Hence we have flat Earth created in 6 days, 6000 years ago, heaven in the sky, hell underground etc.

Yes we all believe in God and why shouldn’t we? Because we know that God exists from the daily changes in life daily occur with us and God save us from many bad things that can harm us. And from the most important thing that when someone heard then that person will must believe in God and that is all the managers send by God and there says are really awesome for anyone and no one can say wrong to them, they says that God exists and we need to prey for him to save us and make our lives safe and good.


Gee, you smoke some good shit.

Let me see: "We believe because we know he exists because shit does not happen. So we must pray shit does not happen."

Yeah, that sums it up.  So by praying you 'know' God exist because shit did not happen to you (but the fact that shit happens to others is irrelevant to you).  Because you only care about yourself and your carefully constructed God concept.

Guess what?  Shit does happen, and when it does, you'll say that 'God is working in mysterious ways' :-)

That is one more proof that only psychopaths can 'believe' in God(s).



I know right, all the terrorist and random attacks that happen everywhere definitely proves god exists because he saved miraculously everyone, wait he didn't.

God offers salvation. The promise of salvation is to be accepted in this life. Salvation will be realized in the next life if it is accepted here, starting at the resurrection from the dead.

Cool

Did all the 2 year old kids that died also had time to accept his salvation? I don't think they had time to accept anything and there are plenty of kids dying at that age not to mention the thousands and thousands of deaths of kids that weren't even born.

You are so funny. Here you are asking questions about God, Who you continually deny the existence of. Perhaps if you work the science that shows God exists, then you will find the answer to believing in God.

 Cheesy
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 07:23:46 PM
If god existed he would have transformed inanimate matter into living matter, wouldn't he? What's your point here exactly?

God exists and as well as god you have to know what's the difference of these two first.
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
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It is strange that even in the 21st century people believe in the theory of evolution.  We can clone animals and humans.  We know how to theoretically organize a big bang and create a universe. But we don't believe that we were created by more advanced people.
Evolution is limited to DNA mutations. But someone created DNACool

How do you know that someone created the DNA?  Do you have ANY proof?

Or this is one of your wipe ass assertions?

Do you have ANY proof transformation of inanimate matter into living matter, incredibly complex DNA construction?

No I don't.  But this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Venter did create a bacteria with the synthetic DNA.

To create DNA without the help of a computer is IMPOSSIBLE.  Cool

So, what is your point?  Just because you don't know how the first 100-200 genes were assembled, it does not mean someone created it.


hero member
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October 17, 2017, 05:26:08 PM
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It is strange that even in the 21st century people believe in the theory of evolution.  We can clone animals and humans.  We know how to theoretically organize a big bang and create a universe. But we don't believe that we were created by more advanced people.
Evolution is limited to DNA mutations. But someone created DNACool

How do you know that someone created the DNA?  Do you have ANY proof?

Or this is one of your wipe ass assertions?

Do you have ANY proof transformation of inanimate matter into living matter, incredibly complex DNA construction?
To create DNA without the help of a computer is IMPOSSIBLE.  Cool


If god existed he would have transformed inanimate matter into living matter, wouldn't he? What's your point here exactly?
full member
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October 17, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
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It is strange that even in the 21st century people believe in the theory of evolution.  We can clone animals and humans.  We know how to theoretically organize a big bang and create a universe. But we don't believe that we were created by more advanced people.
Evolution is limited to DNA mutations. But someone created DNACool

How do you know that someone created the DNA?  Do you have ANY proof?

Or this is one of your wipe ass assertions?

Do you have ANY proof transformation of inanimate matter into living matter, incredibly complex DNA construction?
To create DNA without the help of a computer is IMPOSSIBLE.  Cool

but did you think about what opinion of Darwin was about the existence of God? Of course, I'm against all people believing that Man descended from a monkey. It is not right. But nevertheless there is a force in which humanity believes and which has created not only our world but the universe as a whole.
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 05:15:56 PM
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It is strange that even in the 21st century people believe in the theory of evolution.  We can clone animals and humans.  We know how to theoretically organize a big bang and create a universe. But we don't believe that we were created by more advanced people.
Evolution is limited to DNA mutations. But someone created DNACool

How do you know that someone created the DNA?  Do you have ANY proof?

Or this is one of your wipe ass assertions?

Do you have ANY proof transformation of inanimate matter into living matter, incredibly complex DNA construction?
To create DNA without the help of a computer is IMPOSSIBLE.  Cool
hero member
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Merit: 645
October 17, 2017, 04:58:26 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

If you imply that complexity is somewhat synonymous with a careful design you are mistaken.

Swiss Watch my ass:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/gravitational-waves-colliding-neutron-stars-05328.html

https://youtu.be/EtIkOjq0_50

Universe is a hostile, violent place.  Not a place to raise a family.

But of course, the writers of the religious texts could have not known that.  Hence we have flat Earth created in 6 days, 6000 years ago, heaven in the sky, hell underground etc.

Yes we all believe in God and why shouldn’t we? Because we know that God exists from the daily changes in life daily occur with us and God save us from many bad things that can harm us. And from the most important thing that when someone heard then that person will must believe in God and that is all the managers send by God and there says are really awesome for anyone and no one can say wrong to them, they says that God exists and we need to prey for him to save us and make our lives safe and good.


Gee, you smoke some good shit.

Let me see: "We believe because we know he exists because shit does not happen. So we must pray shit does not happen."

Yeah, that sums it up.  So by praying you 'know' God exist because shit did not happen to you (but the fact that shit happens to others is irrelevant to you).  Because you only care about yourself and your carefully constructed God concept.

Guess what?  Shit does happen, and when it does, you'll say that 'God is working in mysterious ways' :-)

That is one more proof that only psychopaths can 'believe' in God(s).



I know right, all the terrorist and random attacks that happen everywhere definitely proves god exists because he saved miraculously everyone, wait he didn't.

God offers salvation. The promise of salvation is to be accepted in this life. Salvation will be realized in the next life if it is accepted here, starting at the resurrection from the dead.

Cool

Did all the 2 year old kids that died also had time to accept his salvation? I don't think they had time to accept anything and there are plenty of kids dying at that age not to mention the thousands and thousands of deaths of kids that weren't even born.
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 03:39:17 PM
I don't believe in god. I also can't say whether it exists or not. However, I'm more than sure that nature isn't countable so precise as some people think here. If it were so precise we wouldn't have any troubles with hurricanes and so on. It is unpredictable, especially human nature. One more argument against this vague argument on creation is that science always changes, scientists switch from one hypothesis to another in order to make something seem precise. That is why science and technologies are not the facts that can prove you that the world is a mechanism which was created by some mythological guy.
full member
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October 17, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
I do not believe in that "god" that religion speaks to us about. It seems to me that a deity can not be described and imagined. Religion provides us with a very small concept of God. I believe in the higher powers that are ruled by everyone
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 02:15:40 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

If you imply that complexity is somewhat synonymous with a careful design you are mistaken.

Swiss Watch my ass:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/gravitational-waves-colliding-neutron-stars-05328.html

https://youtu.be/EtIkOjq0_50

Universe is a hostile, violent place.  Not a place to raise a family.

But of course, the writers of the religious texts could have not known that.  Hence we have flat Earth created in 6 days, 6000 years ago, heaven in the sky, hell underground etc.

Yes we all believe in God and why shouldn’t we? Because we know that God exists from the daily changes in life daily occur with us and God save us from many bad things that can harm us. And from the most important thing that when someone heard then that person will must believe in God and that is all the managers send by God and there says are really awesome for anyone and no one can say wrong to them, they says that God exists and we need to prey for him to save us and make our lives safe and good.


Gee, you smoke some good shit.

Let me see: "We believe because we know he exists because shit does not happen. So we must pray shit does not happen."

Yeah, that sums it up.  So by praying you 'know' God exist because shit did not happen to you (but the fact that shit happens to others is irrelevant to you).  Because you only care about yourself and your carefully constructed God concept.

Guess what?  Shit does happen, and when it does, you'll say that 'God is working in mysterious ways' :-)

That is one more proof that only psychopaths can 'believe' in God(s).



I know right, all the terrorist and random attacks that happen everywhere definitely proves god exists because he saved miraculously everyone, wait he didn't.

God offers salvation. The promise of salvation is to be accepted in this life. Salvation will be realized in the next life if it is accepted here, starting at the resurrection from the dead.

Cool
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
There is no god that exists. But belief is existing. And belief can make a miracle (and often did)
hero member
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October 17, 2017, 12:49:19 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

If you imply that complexity is somewhat synonymous with a careful design you are mistaken.

Swiss Watch my ass:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/gravitational-waves-colliding-neutron-stars-05328.html

https://youtu.be/EtIkOjq0_50

Universe is a hostile, violent place.  Not a place to raise a family.

But of course, the writers of the religious texts could have not known that.  Hence we have flat Earth created in 6 days, 6000 years ago, heaven in the sky, hell underground etc.

Yes we all believe in God and why shouldn’t we? Because we know that God exists from the daily changes in life daily occur with us and God save us from many bad things that can harm us. And from the most important thing that when someone heard then that person will must believe in God and that is all the managers send by God and there says are really awesome for anyone and no one can say wrong to them, they says that God exists and we need to prey for him to save us and make our lives safe and good.


Gee, you smoke some good shit.

Let me see: "We believe because we know he exists because shit does not happen. So we must pray shit does not happen."

Yeah, that sums it up.  So by praying you 'know' God exist because shit did not happen to you (but the fact that shit happens to others is irrelevant to you).  Because you only care about yourself and your carefully constructed God concept.

Guess what?  Shit does happen, and when it does, you'll say that 'God is working in mysterious ways' :-)

That is one more proof that only psychopaths can 'believe' in God(s).



I know right, all the terrorist and random attacks that happen everywhere definitely proves god exists because he saved miraculously everyone, wait he didn't.
full member
Activity: 192
Merit: 100
October 17, 2017, 09:35:06 AM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

If you imply that complexity is somewhat synonymous with a careful design you are mistaken.

Swiss Watch my ass:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/gravitational-waves-colliding-neutron-stars-05328.html

https://youtu.be/EtIkOjq0_50

Universe is a hostile, violent place.  Not a place to raise a family.

But of course, the writers of the religious texts could have not known that.  Hence we have flat Earth created in 6 days, 6000 years ago, heaven in the sky, hell underground etc.

Yes we all believe in God and why shouldn’t we? Because we know that God exists from the daily changes in life daily occur with us and God save us from many bad things that can harm us. And from the most important thing that when someone heard then that person will must believe in God and that is all the managers send by God and there says are really awesome for anyone and no one can say wrong to them, they says that God exists and we need to prey for him to save us and make our lives safe and good.
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October 17, 2017, 09:34:06 AM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool
Yes I strongly believe in God because there is someone who is creator of this whole universe.  This is clearly in everyone mind that someone controls this universe. And we should need to believe because we all have the life gift which is given by God and he will get that life from us one day so from this point we realize that we need to pray daily for God only and this is good for all of us.
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
Yes,because simply he created me,all of the people,the universe and everything around us.If people have faith,you already beiieve in Him.
newbie
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October 17, 2017, 08:30:09 AM
Yes I do believe in God, although I was skeptical at first when growing up. The reason is simple: Things are too orderly to be a coincidence; the seasons, all human body parts designed for specific purposes, the Bible prophecies that have come true, the Earth's atmosphere, etc. They are many. So, God exists. It's only the religions that have confused us.
full member
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October 17, 2017, 08:27:10 AM
I don't believe in God and other mystical things
hero member
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October 17, 2017, 04:56:04 AM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool

I can do the same with different words. The universe is not that complex because humans have been able to travel through space very fast.

Even if we agree that there must be a complex creator, your whole argument always fails to indicate why the creator would be a god and not simply something else, there is no evidence indicating what the first creator is.
legendary
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October 16, 2017, 09:33:38 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I don't believe in god. But I do believe in God. I believe in God for He has made wonderful and marvelous things in our lives. He is our provider and my bestfriend. He has showed miracles in our lives. I believe in Him for He is the only one who can bring salvation. I believe in Him because He is my Lord and King.

Can you give examples of these miracles god has showed to you?

Make a star. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No cold fusion machines allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a rock. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No boulder busters allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a tree. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No seeds allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a microbe. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No lab with DNA strand manipulation tools. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Make a molecule. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No atoms or subatomic particles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

The universe is a miracle. There is no way it could have come about except via a gigantic miracle.

Make intelligence. No cheating. Make it from scratch. No miracles allowed. Can't, can you? Miracle.

Cool

If god made all these miracles then god is biggest miracle himself.
And only god can make big miracles? So who made god? He was there always? Then why could't have universe excited always containing ingredients to form stars and trees?

We don't know enough about God to be able to tell if He is a miracle. But it seems like He is, because we can't seem to reproduce Him.

God tells us in at least one holy book that He always existed. Otherwise we wouldn't know it.

The universe, stars and trees, etc., are complex things. We can tell how complex they are by the fact that we can't duplicate them. We simply aren't smart enough... at least not yet.

Entropy reduces complexity to simplicity. Entropy disperses and diffuses all things with all other things. The fact that complexity remains as highly complex as it is, shows that the universe had a beginning. If it didn't, everything would have been reduced to ultra-simplicity by entropy, long ago, and even the intelligence to communicate among ourselves would be gone.

The beginning of the universe wasn't very far in the past. We can tell by the great amount of complexity that remains.

Cool

We don't know enough about god to assert he is real either. God is fiction and so is all the other hundreds of religions, if only 1 true god existed there wouldn't be more religions and gods.

Wrong! We know that the universe is extremely complex. People don't like the idea of getting old and dying. If the universe wasn't complex, people would have figured out how to make themselves live at least 200 years, long ago.

This kind of complexity doesn't come about by accident. There isn't any example in nature of factual accidental complexity... not one.

Whatever made the universe is God with regard to us, just because of the complexity He/She/It placed here. The proof for the existence of God is all over the place.

Since you are scientific enough that you see the proof for God as evidence of the possibility, you should really become a believer even though you don't quite have the ability to formulate the evidence into proof.

Cool
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