Topic: Do you hate muslems? - page 76. (Read 214025 times)

I hate Muslims. They are all hypocrites and liars! I am sure that they support the terrorists are just afraid to admit it. Islam educates all alike. Simply, there are Muslims like me who do not believe in God. Those are not terrorists, but they are few.

I am really confused why do you not read my replys???

my MAIN SOURCE is Quran , I do not beleave in HADITHS , Hadiths made this belief evil. they wanna live the way of so called the way of the Prophet , his sunnah , what actually hearsaying is , hearsaying at least of 150 years , you GET IT , minimal 150 YEARS OF HEARSAYING

not only that my whole family will be slaughter or sell / used as a slave. but is this what the Quran says .... NO

but they will do it even its agains the will of Allah , and you will this see on youtube / or what media they use , and your opinion of the Islam will lower then now it is.
funnie fact is the ISIS killing mainly Muslim people, but you still see them as Islam representatives ... why ..... because they say "Allahu Akbar" during slaughter , cause in your case only Muslims says Allahu Akbar.....

please answer this : when become a person an Muslim ?

you know why this all happens ? because mankind have free will ,it is your right as a human being , it is giving to you ( i know you dont  beleave in this, but i do and i see this like so).

eventually everybody is responsible due his act, and gonna pay or receive due his act

where in QURAN is says to do this ?? why is religion to blame ,if you REALLY beleave in Allah you wont do this, its agains his will

its an human act.... again

the biggest mistake of all is : MAKING HUMANS (action) AS AN RELIGION.

where in QURAN say you have to circumcise an human

You know what Quran say about a human body
[Quran 95:6]
Indeed, We created man in (the) best mould.
http://islamawakened.com/quran/95/4/default.htm

dont misstake culture with belief


There is not ONE verse in the Quran saying this, this is inhumaan,


again you dont know anything , you did hear something , you see something on the net/tv most of you see so called Muslims do horrible things , and with this knowledge you build an ( bad)image of this belief......

but i agree with you, religion is(can be)  an powerfull weapon, to un edicated people


you know what the first command was/is from the Quran :

IQRA ---> READ , read and develop yourself , educate yourself , be a better human.

there were a time in history so called of a Golden years/age of Islam, but this is an whole different story...

as i said before, they does not read Quran .

as you guys , dont blame the religion of a mankinds deeds

When was the last time an atheist ran in to a crowded area with a suicide vest intent on killing as many innocents as possible?

When was the last time an atheist decided to mutilate his daughters genitals?

When was the last time as atheist decided to stone women, throw some gays off a high rise building or behead those who dont share their viewpoint.



I know that Islam is nothing more than another man made tecnique created to control others through fear (try telling your friends and relatives you are converting to Christianity just a test to see how your religion of peace plays out)



Science has actually delivered benefit to mankind, religion not so much (unless you enjoy being told how many times a day to get in the dirt, head down ass up)

I don't need your pity , nor your teachings. you dont know me yet you have an opinion about me aka lunatic , twit  you name, why ...because i beleave in a creator, an thats bothers you ( i dont know why ). its allmost the same reaction of an extremist.


you dont know nothing about the Islam yet you have an opinion, just what i said before .

your god is science ( what you dont know is science doesnt know shit, most of them are assumptions , not facts ). You tried to belittle me ( still do), thats not respect , i assume your an atheist, ive got a lot of friends who are non beleavers, i am happy that they doesnt respond like you do ( and honestly there worse atheists then you )

i did reply to this thread because i saw misinformation about my belief.

btw I am not wasting my life with my belief

but your right , just for you :

[quran 109:6] :
For you (is) your religion, and for me (is) my religion."

http://islamawakened.com/quran/109/6/default.htm

SLM

Are you calling me KAFIR LOOOL
but i agree with you , not only extremist but most of the Muslim gonna say i am KAFIR, why because i reject the HADITHS as a PART OF THE QURAN, why do i reject the HADITHS because the QURAN SAYS SO

find one please ( dont come with sites, give me your findings )

the biggest mistake of all is : MAKING HUMANS AS AN RELIGION.

example  when I break the laws of goverment whos fault is it me or the goverment we are humans , we are rebel , we have freedom of choice , if i choose something it will have some consuquents. but it is still the choice I MAKE .....

SLM

Really ??
first off all, Quran is not an ordinair book, cant read ( to understand) like book with chapters, the verses explain himself via verses.  its also written in an ancient language in some arabic dialect ( Qureysi). if you read it , you have to be openminded.

you came with sites who are agains Islam, and thats your source?? and did you check this sites and read what they said i dont think so, they said so it MUST BE .......

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/ashraf.html --> 1000% agains Islam , but i opened your link....

first accusement :
1 :Embryonic Sex Determination :
they quoted :
(53:45-46)  
"That He did create the pairs - male and female from a sperm-drop* (nutfah) when lodged (in its place)"

and this verse contradicts??

(75:38-39)    
"Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)? Then did he become a leech-like clot; then did (Allah) make and fashion (him) in due proportion. And of him He made the sexes, male and female"

btw the verse are 37 , 38 and 39 what is here qouted , even that they couldnt  write it down properly.....

but i dont see the contradicts ?? like i said before it explain itself , the first quote says it is the sperm and second quote its expand it , what is here contradiction ??

BUT i am not gonna explain the whole website to you. it would be a pity for my efforts. cause your not serious about this.

come direct to me with an contradict verses and ( Insha Allah) i will debunked for you. yet i am not a sholar nor i am a imam ,  i am a just a guy who re-discover his faith with rejecting the hadiths

btw i my thoughts is me , my beleave its me , so you did ATTACK me PERSONALLY .
in my opinion , if you confert to Islam you will be one of the extremist, to much hate
SLM

In Islamic nations, more importance is given to religious education, than scientific education. A "scholar" in the Islamic world means someone who is good in the Islamic laws and customs. Western education is a taboo in many of the Islamic nations.

This TRUE kaffir, unlike you, a false kaffir (LOL, a kaffir only in the eyes of some Islamic extremists) would only comment here that there are many, many Muslims that would disagree with you on the issue of the Hadiths, which only leads me to more affirm the phrase

"Islams."

Secondly, of course we can find errors and contradictions in "the Koran."  Those of us who by chance are not in a society in which we would be killed for finding such errors can say this.  But those who are in a society where many things cannot be said cannot say such things.

Therefore, this avenue of discussion may best be left silent.

Perhaps the greatest criticism of Islam is not having to do with theological questions, but with the nature and quality of societies and cultures that it generates, and the nature of human behavior that it tolerates.

The West does not send suicide bombers to protest the treatment of women in Muslim countries, nor to protest it's countless other abuses of human rights and dignity.  On the contrary, these matters we believe can be settled peaceably.  The Islams send their suicide bombers to places and cultures that have not and will not submit to their views of religion. 

But since the Islams cannot even agree among themselves as to the True and Right Way, they use the worst of these means of violence against each other as well as the West.  All manner of Islams are compliant in this strife and its continuance and the exporting of it to the West.

~SNIP~



why are you attacking me like that , cause you didnt like the answer i gave ?? didnt fit in your way of thinking what Muslims are

i never call you anything , but you on the other hand ....... its tells me enough.

but to answer your question :
How in the world did you come up to the conclusion that Quran is a word of God and the hadiths are not.  
Because someone wrote it is???

there is not ONE fault or errors or contradiction in the QURAN , but there is alot contradictions , errors in hadiths. you do the math

and you still dont read my replys ( not all of them )........

again I DONT BELEAVE IN HADITHS AS A PART OF THE QURAN ...

 if you still wanna discuss please do it gentle , we are humans we can discuss this like humans

again dont quote from hadiths especially not from anti-Muslim sites .

I think the answer is obvious.  If the (I am going to coin a phrase here) "Islams" (since there appear to be numerous versions) never prized educating women, 1/2 of their population, and to either a high or low degree advocated violence, and merged religious and civil law and politics -  those cultures are degenerate and suffer accordingly.

IF of the 1/2 that gets some school, it is heavy on the religioso instead of sciences then that much more those people suffer and are backwards.

Yes, I think the evidence points in the direction that the backwards, violent cultures seen in largely Muslim areas are engendered and fostered by the "Islams."

Its need very long discussion who is behind this all and who is what doing most of peoples blaming Muslims but they are not checking what they are doing and how are doing because they are controlling all Media Houses in the world and currently they need to expolite only war against Muslims nothing else

If you check the history, some religions have done worst than that, 2017 still, we  don't see medias telling us about it   
religion is just always used in the history as excuse to make wars, take the power, ect
What we need to look is who is behind this trouble and what are the + to make this troubles

Well yes, but those countries are shaken and demolished by war and terrorism, quite a few of the middle eastern countries were ok, but with the war that they've got into, it has destroyed them and from that the terrorist and higher religion influence are born. But with the lack of education in that countries, their leaders can stay far longer in power.

I believe biggest problem in Muslim world is education they are not creating ways for education just because of this they are facing many problems in countries like Afghanistan Pakistan and Middleast if they try to achieve this then they can solve many problems by themselves without any problem

And my question still stands unanswered... How come there are many, many more violent terrorist attacks commited my muslims rather than any other religion. Before you say that quran is misunderstood or there are different people teaching other ideology that doesn't follow the quran, that question still stands. You have various sects from all religions but none of them are that violent. So, is there something in islam that guides people to even starting those ideologies?

No, people hate muslims because of the fear, since you can see, there are a lot of attacks commited by muslims. We don't blame that much them, as much as we do their countries that are theocracies and that very lack of education leads to those religious ideologies.

People hating muslims are just ignorant people or  brainwashed or uneducated
I don't know if we can blame someone because he has a lack of education, or in another word an village idiot

I can't disagree with any of that.

WHat part of CORRUPT is not known by you ?

they have idiolized the prophet agains his will, same as christians giving Jesus God status.
you know what funny part is , Jesus is prophet like Muhammed, but if you makes cartoons about Jesus , they dont care but when you make a cartoon of Muhammed your dead .... its ABSURD.
the Quran says , there is no dinstiction between the prophets :

The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/2/285/default.htm

again they dont read the QURAN.

and funny part is when the extremists sees my thoughts about this , i will be an disbeleaver AKA KAFIR in their eyes....... and i am , i see my self as an Muslim / Beleaver

SLM