Do you have control or not? - page 16.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on December 07, 2019, 03:33:28 PM

I have control but not all the time. If there is something I need to buy, then I can control and forced myself to stop but if there's not, my goal is to play continously until reaching my daily qouta. As of now, quitting in gambling is not the thing I can do but atleast sometimes I know when to stop and withdraw. If you can't quit atleast try to follow and have yourself a limit per session. It's like you're making your bankroll to last longer until one of the following days luck will favor on you.

only few gamblers are like this but most gamblers will always bust anything they have even if they knew that they arent lucky enough to win that day and they will just complain but for the people like you , you knew when to play or not depending on your senses which is good so that you dont waste money but setting up a qouta when gambling would be hard because you will end up chasing it , you will end up chasing your losses and what if your losses were already too much ? its hard to recover anymore

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I have control but not all the time. If there is something I need to buy, then I can control and forced myself to stop but if there's not, my goal is to play continously until reaching my daily qouta. As of now, quitting in gambling is not the thing I can do but atleast sometimes I know when to stop and withdraw. If you can't quit atleast try to follow and have yourself a limit per session. It's like you're making your bankroll to last longer until one of the following days luck will favor on you.

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Quote from: Krislaw on December 04, 2019, 05:06:40 PM

In a situation whereby you want to completely quit gambling, you should consider deleting your bet account or make it inactive for months(some betting site usually block inactive accounts).

Which can again be opened by contacting the support team. Obviously they wont judge and allow you to unblock those accounts so you can play.

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You can also restrict your access to visit the gambling site URL. But in a situation whereby you are too addicted but shows interesting in gambling, you should create a budget from your profit and not from budget you have in mind for something else.

If someone wants to become de-addicted, they need to bring the control from their own side. Whether they gamble or not is their own decision and every 18+ person is expected to gamble responsibly. You are responsible for your losses and nobody forced you to gamble.

Whether one has control or not is a easy question to ask because someone might be gambling with controlled bankroll and not lose out to much money while another might be broke right after the day they get their salary. Go figure now.

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Quote from: Triffin on December 05, 2019, 12:15:49 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 30, 2019, 04:01:47 AM

The folks who are trying to control everything are known as and called control freaks. And they are called freaks for a reason. And the primary reason is that there is no way one can control everything. In fact, it is impossible to control even the tiniest part of everything. But that's not all. The most ironic, and ultimately pathetic, moment is that the more one tries to control things, the more they tend to get out of hand, so such effort often turns out quite counterproductive, essentially, an exercise in futility as well as stupidity. Hence freaks

Controlling the time and what luck has decided for us is totally different from controlling oneself. A person can definitely limit his desires. For instance, a gambler can never blame his fate to be a witch if he keeps on staking his money on random games. After ending up a beggar, he should only consider his unlimited playing habit to be the reason behind his destruction. Humans can always master themselves, just a matter of choice

But what is choice really?

And how much of it comes through actual thought and self-control? As much as I would like to agree with your view, I don't think we are as rational as we think we are. Most of our decisions are made on the spot without thinking twice (or even once, for that matter). It just happens that our instincts and urges that "guide" our decisions in everyday life are working more or less fine most of the time. And when they don't work, the consequences are not serious, so the negative effects of our actions can be easily corrected or alleviated

But this no longer works in gambling. If you lose money, you can't claim it back. Indeed, you can start chasing your losses, but how much of that decision is rational and thought-out in itself? Not much, I daresay. As it turns out, it is not that easy to master ourselves. We more often than not fall victim to our gut feelings, desires and impulses

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Quote from: Finestream on December 04, 2019, 05:27:56 PM

sometimes we loss control but we should learn and master to be in control all the time.

We should do it as that's the only way we can be secure when we are gambling.
Being secured doesn't mean we won't loss, of course we will still loss but at least we will not loss more than what we can afford to lose.

And also, it's not only applicable in losing situation, control can be very helpful when you are also in winning situation to stop at the right time.

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Quote from: sufferer123 on December 06, 2019, 03:09:26 AM

Do you mean stopping here and not start at all? Or at certain times or at certain moments of loss / gain, to leave that moment and play again later? It seems to me that it's not that hard to do the first one. As a result, you do not go to the casino, do not log on to the website, you go to different entertainment areas and somehow you can stay away from gambling completely.

But when you're at the gambling table / game, it's a very difficult decision to withdraw from the table, saying that it's all that's enough when the full win / loss is at its peak. I think people who can do it can do anything in their lives.

I think you should stop if you gamble already. If you have been gambling for a long time and it is quite interesting for you to gamble but you spend a lot, can you stop it and not gamble for a period or maybe not at all.

How good is the motivation to work, when a person is exposed to a heavy burden, so difficult is it when one is motivated to win gambling and that is the hardest time for him to stop gambling.

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Do you mean stopping here and not start at all? Or at certain times or at certain moments of loss / gain, to leave that moment and play again later? It seems to me that it's not that hard to do the first one. As a result, you do not go to the casino, do not log on to the website, you go to different entertainment areas and somehow you can stay away from gambling completely.

But when you're at the gambling table / game, it's a very difficult decision to withdraw from the table, saying that it's all that's enough when the full win / loss is at its peak. I think people who can do it can do anything in their lives.

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Quote from: Krislaw on December 04, 2019, 05:06:40 PM

In a situation whereby you want to completely quit gambling, you should consider deleting your bet account or make it inactive for months(some betting site usually block inactive accounts). You can also restrict your access to visit the gambling site URL. But in a situation whereby you are too addicted but shows interesting in gambling, you should create a budget from your profit and not from budget you have in mind for something else.

And I hope that it works fine. Cause the solution to being addicted is to cut everything he/she, all the connection to gambling even friends. It is really a big challenge, hard work and it takes time. But the only problem is that if that person really wants to changes otherwise, it serves nothing.
If we are in control of our self at the very beginning, we can't simply fall into addiction but we don't, but letting it happen.

cutting all the connection in gambling will only brings more desire and lust to gamble again.i think what is better is to have a group of good people that will surround the said addicted,with advises and guidance each time he is in need of gambling,days and days will passed and surely realization will come to him and may stop the addiction totally in time.

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Quote from: Capt00 on December 04, 2019, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: Krislaw on December 04, 2019, 05:06:40 PM

In a situation whereby you want to completely quit gambling, you should consider deleting your bet account or make it inactive for months(some betting site usually block inactive accounts). You can also restrict your access to visit the gambling site URL. But in a situation whereby you are too addicted but shows interesting in gambling, you should create a budget from your profit and not from budget you have in mind for something else.

And I hope that it works fine. Cause the solution to being addicted is to cut everything he/she, all the connection to gambling even friends. It is really a big challenge, hard work and it takes time. But the only problem is that if that person really wants to changes otherwise, it serves nothing.
If we are in control of our self at the very beginning, we can't simply fall into addiction but we don't, but letting it happen.

And what if it was peer group that got you into gambling? We should try avoid gambling discussions with any friends that got us into gambling because there is no how they won't bring up conversations about winnings which may tempt you later.

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Quote from: Inkdatar on December 03, 2019, 11:05:03 AM

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Quote from: Landak on December 03, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

I have control, I stop when I run out of money to gamble Grin

. but when I still have the capital, the desire to limit betting in gambling is a bit difficult because there is a sense of wanting to get more in betting.

lol that means you can't control, because the most important control is when we have a lot of capital, and we have to be able to avoid a lot of losses, the point is don't be greedy.

When playing gambling and suffer loses you must have the control and discipline not to gamble again. When experiencing difficulty to stop and wanting to roll out again you cannot control your eagerness in playing. Just stop to avoid more loses.

Before you gamble, you must have control and discipline so you can prevent the loss of your money. If you are trying to control yourself in the middle of gambling, I am afraid that you will feel difficult because you don't have it in the beginning. Many gamblers forget to control themselves, and that makes them suffer because of losing. If we can set everything before we gamble, I think we don't have to feel suffer from losing.

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May be the person will get the applications after deleting them. It is like a workaround to not use the device in order to not use the apps. Social media has become a routine. According to a research, a common person spend 5 hours daily on the social platform of his choice. Coming towards self-control, it is the most essential art required learning to become successful in life. IN gambling, this matters a lot.

I agree, instead of shutting down your device or deleting the application, why not remove your internet at home and live like it's 1995, don't stick your nose too much in gambling, try to walk out of your room and refresh your mind to be able to make more better decisions in your life. It is a disease if you can't live a single day without the internet, you have to be aware of that, it could damage your brain if you spend too much time in your computer sitting all day without doing any exercises and not eating on time.

You have to control everything, not just in gambling but also your daily routine in your life, it is important and a must

Smells like a lot of well-hidden sarcasm to me

The folks who are trying to control everything are known as and called control freaks. And they are called freaks for a reason. And the primary reason is that there is no way one can control everything. In fact, it is impossible to control even the tiniest part of everything. But that's not all. The most ironic, and ultimately pathetic, moment is that the more one tries to control things, the more they tend to get out of hand, so such effort often turns out quite counterproductive, essentially, an exercise in futility as well as stupidity. Hence freaks

Controlling the time and what luck has decided for us is totally different from controlling oneself. A person can definitely limit his desires. For instance, a gambler can never blame his fate to be a witch if he keeps on staking his money on random games. After ending up a beggar, he should only consider his unlimited playing habit to be the reason behind his destruction. Humans can always master themselves, just a matter of choice.

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Quote from: Krislaw on December 04, 2019, 05:06:40 PM

In a situation whereby you want to completely quit gambling, you should consider deleting your bet account or make it inactive for months(some betting site usually block inactive accounts). You can also restrict your access to visit the gambling site URL. But in a situation whereby you are too addicted but shows interesting in gambling, you should create a budget from your profit and not from budget you have in mind for something else.

And I hope that it works fine. Cause the solution to being addicted is to cut everything he/she, all the connection to gambling even friends. It is really a big challenge, hard work and it takes time. But the only problem is that if that person really wants to changes otherwise, it serves nothing.
If we are in control of our self at the very beginning, we can't simply fall into addiction but we don't, but letting it happen.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 04, 2019, 03:04:57 PM

Not all of the time, I believe most of us have control while gambling but there will be a time when we are out of control.
It is normal to get out of control some time because we cant control our emotion all of the time especially when we are in bad condition such as too long losing streak.

This is wrong, we still have to stay in control as one mistake could either change our life and we will regret forever.
We are risking money here, we start a small amount and when we loss control, then we will become aggressive and might not end the session as long as we still have something to risk, this attitude is really risky it could ruin our life.

sometimes we loss control but we should learn and master to be in control all the time.

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In a situation whereby you want to completely quit gambling, you should consider deleting your bet account or make it inactive for months(some betting site usually block inactive accounts). You can also restrict your access to visit the gambling site URL. But in a situation whereby you are too addicted but shows interesting in gambling, you should create a budget from your profit and not from budget you have in mind for something else.

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Not all of the time, I believe most of us have control while gambling but there will be a time when we are out of control.
It is normal to get out of control some time because we cant control our emotion all of the time especially when we are in bad condition such as too long losing streak.
At least we should always try to control, at least we should have a limit or we can say it like an alarm for ourselves when we are gambling.

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Quote from: Inkdatar on December 03, 2019, 11:05:03 AM

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Quote from: Landak on December 03, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

I have control, I stop when I run out of money to gamble Grin

. but when I still have the capital, the desire to limit betting in gambling is a bit difficult because there is a sense of wanting to get more in betting.

lol that means you can't control, because the most important control is when we have a lot of capital, and we have to be able to avoid a lot of losses, the point is don't be greedy.

When playing gambling and suffer loses you must have the control and discipline not to gamble again. When experiencing difficulty to stop and wanting to roll out again you cannot control your eagerness in playing. Just stop to avoid more loses.

Indeed, people should understand that, I meant if you're not lucky enough in some days and you're starting to lose money, you shouldn't quit the idea that you'll get them back because you'll probably lose more while you're getting addicted at it.

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Quote from: TrevorS on December 04, 2019, 12:09:57 PM

I believe it all depends on how gambling is a bad habit for you. If you just have fun then you will not have any difficulties with stopping gambling. However, if this is your addiction, then you will need a connection with your deepest values in order to consciously stop playing. For example, when you smoke, but know that you will die from it tomorrow, most likely you will stop smoking because your health in this case will be your value. With gambling the same thing.

Gambling depends on the person how they handle. Many gamblers are going to play most of the time because they want to earn more money and profit, but they are many players wants to play because of the enjoyment they got on playing. Gambling addiction depends on the person who wants to addicted to playing. You have control of your time and it depends on you how you manage your time and money.

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Quote from: Inkdatar on December 03, 2019, 11:05:03 AM

Quote from: alisonwonder on December 03, 2019, 08:07:18 AM

Quote from: Landak on December 03, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

I have control, I stop when I run out of money to gamble Grin

. but when I still have the capital, the desire to limit betting in gambling is a bit difficult because there is a sense of wanting to get more in betting.

lol that means you can't control, because the most important control is when we have a lot of capital, and we have to be able to avoid a lot of losses, the point is don't be greedy.

When playing gambling and suffer loses you must have the control and discipline not to gamble again. When experiencing difficulty to stop and wanting to roll out again you cannot control your eagerness in playing. Just stop to avoid more loses.

This strategy can be adopted by only genius people as they know that when to play and how much to play and they can stop any time they want while if a person is not much intelligent he will not know that how to play and he cannot estimate that where he will face the risk and he will continue thinking that any time he will win. This thing make him lose all of his wealth.

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Being in control is highly dependent on the individual and the person's ability to move on from situations. Gambling is a an addictive endeavor, You get a couple of wins and losses here and there, your interest gets spiked. You start thinking of the quick monies you can make in one swift winning move, You lose money but you don't care as far as you'll recover on in a big win. That's how far gambling can lead a person. It's up to the individual to decide whether or not to limit or put a full stop to it. In 2016, I got addicted to gambling, my friends tried to talk me out of it but I continued. I only stopped when I told myself that it's high time I stop. In life, We've choices. We either chose to be in control of our inner demons or we chose to let them loose.

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Quote from: STT on November 29, 2019, 04:51:51 PM

If you are human, you have emotions. I think you are kidding yourself to believe otherwise, to be in control of those emotions and act rational then sure thats a fair argument but I think its more dangerous to believe any of us as humans can act without carrying some weight of emotional response.
The problem there control wise would be to have a bias to your actions but not acknowledge it, so its more likely to have an effect then. I think the simpliest solution is a set budget, if you only have a certain amount then inevitably you must gamble profits or walk away at some point and come back another day. In the mean time away from game you will have time process thoughts and emotions and most likely act better, with more control etc.

There are those that believe that you can suppress something as inherent as your emotions and they are wrong, what we need to do is to take them into account when we do something, in this case setting a budget is a good idea but if you like to play in physical casinos this should also include to not bring with you anything valuable that in the heat of the moment you could be ready to give up in order to keep gambling, that way even if you wanted to keep gambling you will have no way to do so.

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