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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 05, 2020, 06:59:58 PM

Quote from: michellee on May 05, 2020, 02:13:49 AM

Sometimes, when we have a problem, gambling will be the way that we choose to calm down from the problem. Well, if that is what happens, then we cannot enjoy the games, we will lose the money because we add more problem in gambling,

Playing gambling games to have fun (entertainment) while having a problem in your life isn't a mistake. Why not? Some gamblers enjoy it! The point is to choose easy & fun games that are appropriate to have fun (entertainment purpose), not for earning money. I think that gamblers won't think about the losses because they don't target to win but to have fun.

Some people are playing gambling because they want to enjoy but they still limit of using their money or betting .
Because for sure once your purpose id to enjoy but you cannot control yourself betting the money and once you lose Im really sure you have a bad day because you lose more money so control ourselvew is the way to enjoy playing gambling.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 05, 2020, 06:59:58 PM

Quote from: michellee on May 05, 2020, 02:13:49 AM

Sometimes, when we have a problem, gambling will be the way that we choose to calm down from the problem. Well, if that is what happens, then we cannot enjoy the games, we will lose the money because we add more problem in gambling,

Playing gambling games to have fun (entertainment) while having a problem in your life isn't a mistake. Why not? Some gamblers enjoy it! The point is to choose easy & fun games that are appropriate to have fun (entertainment purpose), not for earning money. I think that gamblers won't think about the losses because they don't target to win but to have fun.

Yeah, what you say is right. But we cannot deny that some people playing gambling after they got a problem in their life because they think they will enjoy the game. But it is better to avoid that because you only have fun the moment for a while, and if you lose gambling, maybe you will get another problem. We don't know how strong you can hold and solve the problem, but that will not advisable to playing gambling while you have a problem.

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Quote from: michellee on May 05, 2020, 02:13:49 AM

Sometimes, when we have a problem, gambling will be the way that we choose to calm down from the problem. Well, if that is what happens, then we cannot enjoy the games, we will lose the money because we add more problem in gambling,

Playing gambling games to have fun (entertainment) while having a problem in your life isn't a mistake. Why not? Some gamblers enjoy it! The point is to choose easy & fun games that are appropriate to have fun (entertainment purpose), not for earning money. I think that gamblers won't think about the losses because they don't target to win but to have fun.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 04, 2020, 06:38:01 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM

Do you think people don't understand that the key to success in any case is to control your emotions and make informed decisions?

I know that's why I make it clearer. Anyway, after reading your reply I know that you really have a problem with controlling emotion. Sometimes there is a typical person easy to angry or emotion to others. And this type of person will be difficult to hear people's advice. Tongue

I never trade or gamble when I am overwhelmed by emotions or in a bad mood. I have long established a rule for myself - "you cannot control yourself, do something not important". I usually go to my garage and make something out of wood, it calms me down.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM

Similarly, it is difficult for people who gamble to remain calm when they lose their money over and over again.

You must know what people said, "limit your funds" or kindly stop temporarily if you feel not comfortable after losing streak. Never force yourself to gamble if you are not ready or in a bad mood. That only triggers you to more losses.

I also wrote about this earlier. Limited funds are a great way to protect yourself from losing large amounts of money.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 04, 2020, 04:49:25 AM

As always this is the best strategy to limit the loses of a certain gambler, however we sometimes have a problem of imposing it as we go beyond limit sometimes, that is because we sometimes loses our discipline and that causes the addiction in gambling.

it's easy to determine if we can really have the control in gambling or not, if we keep making mistakes, then we have to accept that gambling is not for us as the longer we gambling the higher the risk we are taking.

Sometimes, when we have a problem, gambling will be the way that we choose to calm down from the problem. Well, if that is what happens, then we cannot enjoy the games, we will lose the money because we add more problem in gambling, we cannot solve the problem because we are too busy or stress to think about winning in gambling.

Yes, we need to say to ourselves that we must stop playing gambling if we keep making mistakes. We know that we cannot get the fun thing in gambling if we continue. I hope that we can realize that so we can enjoy playing gambling.

Quote from: FontSeli on May 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM

Unfortunately, not all people are as sensible as you. Also, not everyone understands such simple truths. That is why there is so much negative attitude towards various casinos from the families and friends of those people who are addicted and constantly lose all their money there.

Sometimes, I lose control in gambling and other thing because I don't feel that I am sensible. But that will not makes me to stop trying to control myself because if I give up to control myself, my can lose everything in my life. We need to have a positive attitude for anything we did, no matter it is hard because that is our way to prevent the negative attitude and keep ourselves in balance.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM

Do you think people don't understand that the key to success in any case is to control your emotions and make informed decisions?

I know that's why I make it clearer. Anyway, after reading your reply I know that you really have a problem with controlling emotion. Sometimes there is a typical person easy to angry or emotion to others. And this type of person will be difficult to hear people's advice. Tongue

Quote from: FontSeli on May 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM

Similarly, it is difficult for people who gamble to remain calm when they lose their money over and over again.

You must know what people said, "limit your funds" or kindly stop temporarily if you feel not comfortable after losing streak. Never force yourself to gamble if you are not ready or in a bad mood. That only triggers you to more losses.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 03, 2020, 07:49:10 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 03, 2020, 05:01:07 PM

I agree with you guys that a reasonable person can limit themselves to the amount of money they want to spend on gambling. However, not all people are able to remain calm when they get into the excitement. Some will think that they are able to win back and will make new bets losing more and more.

Basically, everyone is a reasonable person but some may be hard to control their emotions because of habits. The only way to control emotion is to practice handling it and aware that you must control it for your future. Even if it is not an easy thing but why don't to try! It is the same as you have a dream to success, you won't reach it if you don't do hard efforts. Regarding trying again after winning, every gambler should know that no guarantee to win more instead higher risk of losses again.

Do you think people don't understand that the key to success in any case is to control your emotions and make informed decisions? I have been trading on the crypto market for several years now, but it is sometimes difficult for me to remain calm in the event of a drop in the price of my coins. Similarly, it is difficult for people who gamble to remain calm when they lose their money over and over again.

Quote from: michellee on May 04, 2020, 01:23:55 AM

Yes, you are absolutely right. Once they feel excitements of playing gambling, they will use the other money to continue playing gambling, even if they know that they don't have a chance to win. But we don't have to be that person because we don't want to get another loss like them, so we need to control ourselves before we lose all of the money. Limiting ourselves will be a way to avoid that loss.

Unfortunately, not all people are as sensible as you. Also, not everyone understands such simple truths. That is why there is so much negative attitude towards various casinos from the families and friends of those people who are addicted and constantly lose all their money there.

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Quote from: michellee on May 04, 2020, 01:23:55 AM

Limiting ourselves will be a way to avoid that loss.

As always this is the best strategy to limit the loses of a certain gambler, however we sometimes have a problem of imposing it as we go beyond limit sometimes, that is because we sometimes loses our discipline and that causes the addiction in gambling.

it's easy to determine if we can really have the control in gambling or not, if we keep making mistakes, then we have to accept that gambling is not for us as the longer we gambling the higher the risk we are taking.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 03, 2020, 05:01:07 PM

I agree with you guys that a reasonable person can limit themselves to the amount of money they want to spend on gambling. However, not all people are able to remain calm when they get into the excitement. Some will think that they are able to win back and will make new bets losing more and more. It is in this case that the usual casinos are slightly better.

Yes, you are absolutely right. Once they feel excitements of playing gambling, they will use the other money to continue playing gambling, even if they know that they don't have a chance to win. But we don't have to be that person because we don't want to get another loss like them, so we need to control ourselves before we lose all of the money. Limiting ourselves will be a way to avoid that loss.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 03, 2020, 05:01:07 PM

I agree with you guys that a reasonable person can limit themselves to the amount of money they want to spend on gambling. However, not all people are able to remain calm when they get into the excitement. Some will think that they are able to win back and will make new bets losing more and more.

Basically, everyone is a reasonable person but some may be hard to control their emotions because of habits. The only way to control emotion is to practice handling it and aware that you must control it for your future. Even if it is not an easy thing but why don't to try! It is the same as you have a dream to success, you won't reach it if you don't do hard efforts. Regarding trying again after winning, every gambler should know that no guarantee to win more instead higher risk of losses again.

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Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2020, 03:07:09 AM

Maybe offline gambling moves to online casinos because they can not go to the casino, so they use the online casino to playing gambling. They need to have strong control when they are playing gambling, no whether offline or online gambling, because that can help gamblers to prevent the big loss. Don't lose control if we want to save our money.

When you play in an online casino, it is much more difficult to control the money you plan to spend. Because you have your Bank cards and wallets with cryptocurrencies at hand. You can't take a few hundred bucks out of your wallet and go play in an offline casino with it and leave everything else at home. This is why people should be more careful.

The same goes with online casino. You have all the money in you wallet and you can deposit them in the gambling site to play. The control in gambling always come from how strong you're in your mind and how much you care about your money. If you love your money, after few loses you will definitely quit gambling.

Quote from: michellee on May 03, 2020, 03:21:53 AM

Yes, I feel that. I admitted that it is very difficult to control ourselves when we play online gambling, especially if we have access to use the money in the wallet so we might deposit more money to our gambling account. But fortunately, I always limit the money that I want to use to playing gambling because I don't want to end up by losing all of the money.

I agree with you guys that a reasonable person can limit themselves to the amount of money they want to spend on gambling. However, not all people are able to remain calm when they get into the excitement. Some will think that they are able to win back and will make new bets losing more and more. It is in this case that the usual casinos are slightly better.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 02, 2020, 05:48:55 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2020, 03:07:09 AM

Maybe offline gambling moves to online casinos because they can not go to the casino, so they use the online casino to playing gambling. They need to have strong control when they are playing gambling, no whether offline or online gambling, because that can help gamblers to prevent the big loss. Don't lose control if we want to save our money.

When you play in an online casino, it is much more difficult to control the money you plan to spend. Because you have your Bank cards and wallets with cryptocurrencies at hand. You can't take a few hundred bucks out of your wallet and go play in an offline casino with it and leave everything else at home. This is why people should be more careful.

Yes, I feel that. I admitted that it is very difficult to control ourselves when we play online gambling, especially if we have access to use the money in the wallet so we might deposit more money to our gambling account. But fortunately, I always limit the money that I want to use to playing gambling because I don't want to end up by losing all of the money.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 03, 2020, 01:20:50 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 02, 2020, 05:48:55 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2020, 03:07:09 AM

Maybe offline gambling moves to online casinos because they can not go to the casino, so they use the online casino to playing gambling. They need to have strong control when they are playing gambling, no whether offline or online gambling, because that can help gamblers to prevent the big loss. Don't lose control if we want to save our money.

When you play in an online casino, it is much more difficult to control the money you plan to spend. Because you have your Bank cards and wallets with cryptocurrencies at hand. You can't take a few hundred bucks out of your wallet and go play in an offline casino with it and leave everything else at home. This is why people should be more careful.

The same goes with online casino. You have all the money in you wallet and you can deposit them in the gambling site to play. The control in gambling always come from how strong you're in your mind and how much you care about your money. If you love your money, after few loses you will definitely quit gambling.

Controlling ourselves is a great factor especially if we do not want to become part of the people who are addicted to gambling. When I do gambling, I make sure that I have fully control to my emotions because I understand and I'm aware that emotion have a vital role especially for us gamblers. If we are carried away by our emotions, there is a high chance of losing in gambling. We should focus on how we will control our self in order for us to lessen the risks and protect our capital.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 02, 2020, 05:48:55 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2020, 03:07:09 AM

Maybe offline gambling moves to online casinos because they can not go to the casino, so they use the online casino to playing gambling. They need to have strong control when they are playing gambling, no whether offline or online gambling, because that can help gamblers to prevent the big loss. Don't lose control if we want to save our money.

When you play in an online casino, it is much more difficult to control the money you plan to spend. Because you have your Bank cards and wallets with cryptocurrencies at hand. You can't take a few hundred bucks out of your wallet and go play in an offline casino with it and leave everything else at home. This is why people should be more careful.

The same goes with online casino. You have all the money in you wallet and you can deposit them in the gambling site to play. The control in gambling always come from how strong you're in your mind and how much you care about your money. If you love your money, after few loses you will definitely quit gambling.

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Fortunately I am among those who can control my desire to gambling. Indeed at first I was also difficult to control the desire to
gambling. But I tried the capital restriction method for gambling, it was effective to suppress the desire for gambling. For now
I limit playing gambling to only weekends, if too often gambling is afraid I will lose control and become addicted.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on April 29, 2020, 07:21:00 PM

Quote from: QueenVera on April 27, 2020, 07:13:16 PM

I gamble uncontrollable, but never go beyond my budget. I could risk all my gamble budget for the day in a single game which could turn out to be a mistakes or profitable choices but it never leads me to tapping into funds that wasn't intended to be used to gamble for the day. So I think I'm in control.

It means you can control yourself very well, boy. The point is "you only use money intended for gambling, and never use other money". As long as you can do this way, you won't regret losing a big amount of money in a single day. That's why people say to gamble only on what you can afford. Because to gamble excessively won't make you be rich, you just create a chance to be more losses.

I agree, you're still in control. Those who are not will tap those funds meant for something else and that can be the start of another problem. If he wins and get back the money he just lost, I don't think he will stop, I think he will think that he can still gamble because he is already winning, but what if he lost it again?

You're safe, I'm like you, before I start gambling I promise myself if I lose "this amount" of money, I'll stop. And for the record I always stop. I never even gamble way huge amount of money, I don't treat gambling as a job, its still an entertainment for me. An opportunity to earn but we still have to accept that we won't always earn, and its alright. Losing is part of gambling.

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Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2020, 03:07:09 AM

Maybe offline gambling moves to online casinos because they can not go to the casino, so they use the online casino to playing gambling. They need to have strong control when they are playing gambling, no whether offline or online gambling, because that can help gamblers to prevent the big loss. Don't lose control if we want to save our money.

When you play in an online casino, it is much more difficult to control the money you plan to spend. Because you have your Bank cards and wallets with cryptocurrencies at hand. You can't take a few hundred bucks out of your wallet and go play in an offline casino with it and leave everything else at home. This is why people should be more careful.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 29, 2020, 07:37:21 PM

We gamble because we want a win, we can gamble excessively but for the purpose of winning excessive amount so it could change our lives financially.

Indeed, no one gambles because he wants to lose. But you know, a too big expectation to win in gambling, probably leads to depression or bigger loses at the end. That's why you need self-control and think realistically. No problem if you expect to earn some money from gambling but I suggest not to dream it too much. Moreover, if you rely on gambling to change your life.

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To be honest, it is not that easy. I've been through a lot and with years and years of trying, I am still not that perfectly cured of addiction. I am still gambling and even though I have those times that I can still control myself, there are still those times that I can't. My will is not that strong, luckily this ECQ held myself from gambling continuously as I can understand myself much more.

Well, I guess that's the life of a gambler. We nonlonger eradicate it within ourselves totally because it is already flowing into our veins. There's no turning back for us since the first time we got the sweet taste of winning. I believe that our body will com to the point that it will seek the rush and excitement we feel there. I guess the least thing we can do is to minimize it (salute to you mate

) as much as we could.

Thanks for that, but you know, I never think of winning, that feeling of excitement as you are betting your money, no. There is just your mind that would always tell you to gamble, that there is a lot of things for you to do but you will always think of gambling. That is not the reason I gamble it is just that it is like a part of your day, without it, that day is not complete. There are even those times that if I can't gamble, I lose my temper. I am really thankful for this lockdown though, I hate it but I am also thankful since it is the reason I contained myself from gambling.

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Quote from: Jateng on April 30, 2020, 09:26:28 AM

Many people prefer to do online gambling because of the current virus spreading all over the world even the management itself can't afford to close for a meanwhile.

Even before the virus, I think a lot of people would prefer to gamble online than going to the physical casino.
Personally, I think going in a casino is expensive than just gambling online, going into the casino with just $10 would not let you enjoy, but with online gambling, if you burn a lot of hours, you can do so, just adjust the amount you risk every bet and you are good to go.

Quote from: Jateng on April 30, 2020, 09:26:28 AM

They need to operate as soon as possible.

or maybe we can say, the government needs to find the vaccine, and the rest will just follow,, I'm talking about the good news.

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