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Quote from: Oasisman on April 18, 2020, 06:19:00 PM

I might say, you can not achieve self control when you don't have a mindset of a responsible gambler.

And what the mindset of a responsible gambler exactly? Can you describe it, buddy?
In my newbie perception, being a responsible gambler means you must know the priority of your funds and can manage it properly. For example, you will limit your funds to play daily, so if you have spent the money allocated for gambling that day, you kindly stop playing gambling at that time and play again tomorrow. Is that thing you mean above, buddy?

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Quote from: Best Dreams on April 18, 2020, 05:04:08 PM

Everyone has control but they only say that we have no control I think anyone can stop gaming at anytime when they realize that playing any more could be risky but some time people try to recover the lose and they lose even more so better have control on your emotions and not to let your greed or your addiction give you financial lose, self control is the most important feature for a good gambler.

Well, your last statement is the same as lossing control of your self from being too engaged in gambling.
It's really hard to control your emotions, specially when you don't feel any responsibility yet. 1 out of 100 people has become broken and lost everything because of gambling, and we never know why they have done such horrific thing because we are not in their shoes.

I might say, you can not achieve self control when you don't have a mindset of a responsible gambler.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on April 18, 2020, 05:04:08 PM

Everyone has control but they only say that we have no control I think anyone can stop gaming at anytime when they realize that playing any more could be risky but some time people try to recover the lose and they lose even more so better have control on your emotions and not to let your greed or your addiction give you financial lose, self control is the most important feature for a good gambler.

That's right, a person can really become addicted to gambling if he does nothing else. It is very important that you are in control of yourself, just think that the money here is estimated to be depleted and that you will lose the cost of the things you need to provide. So whether he wins or loses, he knows when he'll stop. It is also important that we do something other than gamble, let's just consider it a hobby and not to make money.

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Quote from: skarais on April 18, 2020, 09:23:25 AM

I am not sure you are not a gambling addict even though you can control it. Controlling the desire to gamble is an attempt to avoid various problems that are often felt by gamblers and in my opinion this effort is not to avoid addiction because someone who can return to playing gambling are those who are said to be addicted.

That is not a call in the name of addiction, their desire is only to return to playing gambling to have fun and enjoy it as entertainment when he wants, something that has limitations not included in the addiction category, let alone can control themselves.

Everyone has control but they only say that we have no control I think anyone can stop gaming at anytime when they realize that playing any more could be risky but some time people try to recover the lose and they lose even more so better have control on your emotions and not to let your greed or your addiction give you financial lose, self control is the most important feature for a good gambler.

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Quote from: FontSeli on April 17, 2020, 01:45:35 PM

The most important step in a person's recovery is to understand that they have a problem and want to get rid of it.

Well, it is true but many addicts think that they are not addicted to gambling and they refuse to have special treatments from the experts. Even they dispute any suggestions from their family members or friends. It will be hard to raise the awareness of the addicts to get rid in this case. I think their family must force them to visit professional mental health regularly. What do you think, mate?

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This topic would be nice with an attached vote. It is quite difficult to read all the pages and understand the percentage of people who honestly can admit that they do not have control/are dependent on gambling. Voting would be very helpful in understanding real numbers as it is anonymous

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Quote from: FontSeli on April 17, 2020, 01:45:35 PM

Quote from: swogerino on April 16, 2020, 08:04:53 AM

This can work under someone else supervision like in your case are your parents which can restrict you all the tools that you can use to gamble with and keep an eye on you until let’s say you have not gambled for a month.
The real problem with control is when you are an independent adult that controls everything for yourself.In this case if the situation goes out of control then it is almost sure that a lot of problems will arise in the near future.

I was very surprised at the time how many adults can't control themselves on their own. They drink too much alcohol, gamble, cheat on their wives and husbands, and so on.
These people can and should be saved, but they themselves must seek help or their family members must do so.

The most important step in a person's recovery is to understand that they have a problem and want to get rid of it.

Many real addicts know this and know they should stop but they keep on doing it.

You can ask any wife beater or child molester. They know it's wrong and every time they do it they apologize and gfeel bad, Then they promise to never do it again, stay strong for a month or two and then it happens again and everything starts over.

The most important step is not to be able to tell the truth and admit to a problem. The most important is to really work on changing it.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on April 18, 2020, 11:53:29 AM

Well, when the lockdown was implemented due to the pandemic, --I seldom play gambling definitely I am not addicted to it. But I know people who were once addicted to gambling. This started to stop gambling when they found out that everything has to them has gone. Some of them indicatively stopped gambling by doing things that are beneficial to them like spending time with their families and paying more attention to their careers.

That is what many professional recovery centers.They keep the addicted gambler isolated for a certain amount of time and keep him busy with many other activities hoping that he would have forgot gambling when he goes out of the rehab center.It has been proven somewhat successful as it works some times but not always.I agree when you chase your career you have to train in order to improve yourself through different courses and this may work.

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Well, when the lockdown was implemented due to the pandemic, --I seldom play gambling definitely I am not addicted to it. But I know people who were once addicted to gambling. This started to stop gambling when they found out that everything has to them has gone. Some of them indicatively stopped gambling by doing things that are beneficial to them like spending time with their families and paying more attention to their careers.

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Quote from: skarais on April 18, 2020, 09:23:25 AM

I am not sure you are not a gambling addict even though you can control it. Controlling the desire to gamble is an attempt to avoid various problems that are often felt by gamblers and in my opinion this effort is not to avoid addiction because someone who can return to playing gambling are those who are said to be addicted.

That is not a call in the name of addiction, their desire is only to return to playing gambling to have fun and enjoy it as entertainment when he wants, something that has limitations not included in the addiction category, let alone can control themselves.

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Quote from: MCobian on April 18, 2020, 08:43:31 AM

I am among those who are lucky, because I can control my desire to play gambling. Which means I'm not a gambling addict.

I am not sure you are not a gambling addict even though you can control it. Controlling the desire to gamble is an attempt to avoid various problems that are often felt by gamblers and in my opinion this effort is not to avoid addiction because someone who can return to playing gambling are those who are said to be addicted.

Quote from: noorman0 on April 18, 2020, 09:02:12 AM

Actually what I want to know is, which one is more likely that most people lose control when at the gambling table at a time that makes them last longer to not leave?
- often wins
- often loses

Someone will have the opportunity to stay longer at the gambling table if they often win bets. The more money collected through winning, the longer the chance to play. Nothing can last longer at the gambling table if they often experience defeat.

The desire of someone to bet longer at the gambling table in my opinion will vary. Greater desire to continue playing may be felt by those who often experience defeat assuming that they want to return the capital that has been used up. But for those who win more often then I think they will think of ending the game faster and enjoying the results. Playing endlessly in hopes of getting dozens of wins I think will only make the results of the previous win potentially run out, so ending the game faster is one of the right things.

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Quote from: 3meek on April 18, 2020, 08:36:58 AM

I don't know about tolerance... It's either you're addicted or not! Wink

It's just that some people live peacefully with addiction, and some people need help!
I guess treatment is required when addiction prevents you from living normally in society... IMO...

Isn't a person who is addicted will always try hard to meet the opiate? They aren't always in peace.

Actually what I want to know is, which one is more likely that most people lose control when at the gambling table at a time that makes them last longer to not leave?
- often wins
- often loses

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I am among those who are lucky, because I can control my desire to play gambling. Which means I'm not a gambling addict. I must admit
that it is not easy to control the desire to play gambling, it requires strong determination and discipline.There are still many people who are
addicted to gambling, and can not control it. So I am quite proud of myself, because I am gambling only for fun and I play gambling when
I want to.

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Quote from: GDragon on April 18, 2020, 08:09:29 AM

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Quote from: 3meek on April 16, 2020, 03:12:46 PM

By the way - one of the tips for successful trading on the exchange - never trade drunk! I think the same advice can be given to players! If you want to keep control over the game, keep your mind clear! Grin

When someone drunk, he cannot think clearly, and I cannot imagine how he can play gambling with the right. Maybe his opponent or his friend will be laughing to see he say something that is not related to the games because I already saw that if someone drunk, he tends to say anything without any correlation. But that is true, and we need to stay away from drunk if we gamble except we come to the casino because of our friends invite us to see them playing gambling, and we can drink to stay beside them without playing any gambling games.

I somehow agree, it is best to not be drunk in a place where you should think critically. However, there are those talented people who can stay alert and can still think effectively while under the influence of alcohol. I don't know how can they do it but I met one. Damn he's good, every choices he make is still calculated, he stays calm, and I saw him drunk a lot. It is alcohol tolerance? Or is he already put it in his system to be drunk while playing.

I don't know about tolerance... It's either you're addicted or not! Wink

It's just that some people live peacefully with addiction, and some people need help!
I guess treatment is required when addiction prevents you from living normally in society... IMO...

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Quote from: michellee on April 17, 2020, 06:06:15 AM

Quote from: 3meek on April 16, 2020, 03:12:46 PM

By the way - one of the tips for successful trading on the exchange - never trade drunk! I think the same advice can be given to players! If you want to keep control over the game, keep your mind clear! Grin

When someone drunk, he cannot think clearly, and I cannot imagine how he can play gambling with the right. Maybe his opponent or his friend will be laughing to see he say something that is not related to the games because I already saw that if someone drunk, he tends to say anything without any correlation. But that is true, and we need to stay away from drunk if we gamble except we come to the casino because of our friends invite us to see them playing gambling, and we can drink to stay beside them without playing any gambling games.

I somehow agree, it is best to not be drunk in a place where you should think critically. However, there are those talented people who can stay alert and can still think effectively while under the influence of alcohol. I don't know how can they do it but I met one. Damn he's good, every choices he make is still calculated, he stays calm, and I saw him drunk a lot. It is alcohol tolerance? Or is he already put it in his system to be drunk while playing.

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Quote from: FontSeli on April 17, 2020, 01:45:35 PM

Quote from: swogerino on April 16, 2020, 08:04:53 AM

This can work under someone else supervision like in your case are your parents which can restrict you all the tools that you can use to gamble with and keep an eye on you until let’s say you have not gambled for a month.
The real problem with control is when you are an independent adult that controls everything for yourself.In this case if the situation goes out of control then it is almost sure that a lot of problems will arise in the near future.

I was very surprised at the time how many adults can't control themselves on their own. They drink too much alcohol, gamble, cheat on their wives and husbands, and so on.
These people can and should be saved, but they themselves must seek help or their family members must do so.

The most important step in a person's recovery is to understand that they have a problem and want to get rid of it.

Once again, I want to repeat that this is an addiction! That is, a person can understand perfectly well that it is addiction, but can do nothing about it!
You think all drug addicts and alcoholics don't want to get rid of addiction? Or their families (if they exist) are not trying to help?
It's a psychological illness that's very hard to get rid of...
Some people can't be helped at all!

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Quote from: FontSeli on April 17, 2020, 01:45:35 PM

I was very surprised at the time how many adults can't control themselves on their own. They drink too much alcohol, gamble, cheat on their wives and husbands, and so on.
These people can and should be saved, but they themselves must seek help or their family members must do so.

The most important step in a person's recovery is to understand that they have a problem and want to get rid of it.

How old are you? If you still get surprised by the way people are, I guess you haven't lived enough. What I like about drinkers and gamblers ... well, yes they are assholes but if you get close to some and you talk honestly, you see that many of them are quite open and know their failings and have no misunderstanding about who they are.

Help is harder than it sounds. People judge. So find a friend, a confidante, who you tell everything.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on April 18, 2020, 12:49:09 AM

Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

Can you consciously and willingly stop gambling at any time?

Sure i can at any time and any place because i only play when i wanted to and not a demand from addiction.

Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

If you can do the above, you have great control and discipline, of course you are not an addict and you deserve to gamble as much as you want.

as much as we want?nope as much as our funds are available and our time,also with consent of our family.

Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

If not, clarify your ways of stopping gambling.

i have a friend that to stop playing he obliged His wife to tell him to stop everytime he plays,and even in real casino?he brings Wifey to remind him.

Well said, you play when you want it. Maybe you're among the exception list of people who prefer gambling for fun. In most cases people go on gambling to earn, upon the same when they're in need people gamble. By this time it is not that easy to stop if we keep on winning or losing. Human mind always look for big or want to have what's at the beginning.

All that said first were right, but very few gamble with the consent of the family. Myself used to share my wins, and my mom was supportive. Later I lost everything I earned, she started to scold and even when I was upset for something else. She starts to scold mentioning already I said don't gamble. Further on I promised I've stopped gambling.

All the above, I don't know to what extent this is gonna be true. Because wife can control, but the same control in gambling won't be that effective, because it is possible to gamble with the mobile phones in our hands.

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Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

Can you consciously and willingly stop gambling at any time?

Sure i can at any time and any place because i only play when i wanted to and not a demand from addiction.

Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

If you can do the above, you have great control and discipline, of course you are not an addict and you deserve to gamble as much as you want.

as much as we want?nope as much as our funds are available and our time,also with consent of our family.

Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

If not, clarify your ways of stopping gambling.

i have a friend that to stop playing he obliged His wife to tell him to stop everytime he plays,and even in real casino?he brings Wifey to remind him.

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Quote from: Maotezi on November 22, 2019, 07:09:15 AM

Can you consciously and willingly stop gambling at any time?
If you can do the above, you have great control and discipline, of course you are not an addict and you deserve to gamble as much as you want.
If not, clarify your ways of stopping gambling.

I always have a control of my self as I can stop gambling anytime I like to stop, I don't like become a gambling addict in the future that is why I gamble for fun and I only use my extra money for it. Using our money that are not extra is not a wise decision and most of the people who are doing it are those people who are already addicted to gambling.

Having no control over your gambling expenses will cause a lot of trouble with you so it will be good that we still have a control and discipline to our gambling habit.

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