Topic: Do you have this practice of gambling during one's wake (Read 647 times)

Actually, some people have done this illegally before. But, they will make it look legal in a hardcore way. How? They will take advantage of the less fortunate (poor) families of the deceased to extend the wake they will bite this kind of trick because they need the donation to pay the bills for the burial grounds and other payments.
Others are actually renting dead people so that they continue their gambling activities and there is news that these schemes are being raided by the police because there's really no permit for it although it looks legal outside.
I've lived in the streets and I knew a place before where the gambling game "Sakla" happens every day although it's been a week or more. Most of the time the dead should only be there for a week, but there are times that it takes months and the gamblers are still going there.
Sad but true. Those in these types of businesses are taking advantage of it just because it will look legal and the police would not even look for permits until maybe someone tells them what is happening.

This is well known in some countries in Southeast Asia part, Gambling is legal in our country and much legal if there's a funeral because some baranggay officials allowed them to do that especially if the funeral is held inside the house only, unlike private funeral houses where only limited people can go and there is no place for people who want to gamble. Believe it or not, it's normal to do it here in our area, because having gamblers at a funeral also helps because when they win, they donate their winnings to the dead, that's what's called "tong" and that money will help the family of the deceased, it can be used for burial or additional expenses for reading or praying.

I don't know such a tradition exists, in my country, gambling is extremely free and you'll only hear advises like gamble responsibly and others. Its interesting hearing of the practice in your own country, but I'm sure people play with VPN because there are no country without active gamblers, only that they do it undercover.

In my country, you can engage in offline and online gambling without any restrictions that people even go to the extent of taking it as their full time job. No matter how hard you try to convince those addicts to gamble responsibly, it doesn't yield fruit because they're stuck in it. I wish some of them existed in your country, maybe the story would've been different

This kind of culture isn't a thing where I'm from - Based on my knowledge, I haven't seen or heard of such a culture; this is actually my first time. haha. Even though gambling is accepted and legal in my country,  I think you might even get sanctioned by the community if you do such as it would seem very disrespectful to the dead and probably, the culture. Except they (the deceased), family or culture requested it, it's a no-no.  But since it is a culture elsewhere, I can't condemn it although I am quite fascinated that such things like these are available elsewhere in people's culture.  

Gambling is not legal in my country so most of the gambling activities in my country are online based. However, those gamblers who participate in offline gambling mainly participate in gambling activities under the cover of social laws and police systems. So it is not possible to practice gambling even if there is an absolute desire. Certainly not more likely in my case because I don't really participate in any other item outside of Sportsbetting so I usually don't need to prepare or practice for Sportsbetting.

Haven't heard of this as it's my first time and it's sounds interesting going by the motive of the organization of such gambling games under the wake. I hope people don't get too excited to wish for more of these wake's because the more the wakes the more loved ones that are lost to death.

On the bright side, the initiative acts as a succor of relief to some of the financial burden surrounding burial rites and it also  while under the wake help reduce the grieve of the bereaves as they have people around to play with and forget their sorrows with some euphoria that's lifting from the shock of the loss.

Very strange, and maybe this is the first time I've heard of a ritual like this. I consider this unusual, but each region has different characteristics, and socio-cultural, so I don't blame this, especially since this is related to traditions passed down from generation to generation. So we as lay people need to respect all these differences.

However, because some regions and many communities have a bad view of gambling, the general public may think that rituals like this are unusual and quite contrary to existing norms.
And will such rituals continue? Yes, I think that when this has been done for generations, of course this uniqueness will always be maintained from generation to generation, this will continue but will only develop in that scope. Because of this, with many people having bad views about gambling, it will be quite difficult for traditions or culture like this to be accepted by the outside community. And if the reason is "because there is a family who needs to cover the costs of the remaining family" I think this is an illogical reason, because when someone sympathizes and cares enough about the family left behind, then he will immediately give the money he has without additionally you have to play gambling first.

I just heard this because maybe I currently live where gambling is still a taboo, even for some reason in some areas it is still limited and even prohibited so that for gambling licenses with family it will definitely be very difficult to happen because of what exists. This will actually create new problems for those of us who really want to gamble.

However, for some games such as card games still occur and can be done as long as there is no bet in it because it is only used for fun and strengthening the relationship so that there is no element of gambling in it, but this is also not done every day because there are several situations and conditions that sometimes do not allow it and can only be used when there is time to relax and gather with the extended family, maybe something like this can happen.

Most of the cultures have different rituals and traditions during or after someone's wake. To the other nations, that's a disrespectful thing to do when you're going to ask the relatives to have some table there to play poker cards and have some bets. I think it will be understandable if it's just for fun and there are no bets at all. But if it's going to be done in the form of real gambling during someone's wake, the family might feel disrespected about it. Otherwise, if the dead is a known gambler then they would allow that to pass on his legacy and remember him like what he's done and hobbies when he's still alive.

You are absolutely right, these things tend to be very expensive, now there are many plans that I have seen on TV where insurance is paid for this type of event, where they basically offer the entire funeral service, so in view of these things we can draw the conclusion that things have to be previously planned, the person when  is die is over for that person everything , but the problem that the family faces, not only the pain, but the spend that comes at them, is a strong point, but You have to face it as you say, I remember that when the covid pandemic was going on, it wasn't even worth it to bury the dead, but rather burn them, of course it's something else, but it affects it in the same way.

That is why it is striking that in some countries they see poker tournaments as a way to raise funds to cover funeral expenses, it is not a bad idea.

actually I've only very difficult to understand exactly what you are saying but what I want to tell you is that dumbbelling is different than and you cannot compare it with what you see but is not involving so therefore I believe that you have to know that's gambling is different if from your explanation but let me not go into this again what you give is explanation of another thing that does not relate with the gambling naturally but only accepted the fact of your theory

In third world countries things work the same way, anyone who is a government employee has their salary deducted for death expenses, in the private sector they also deduct their salary for death expenses, now when people are not government employees or from a private company but there is some business so these people must go to health, death and other insurance companies and pay the death insurance, that way when the person dies the insurance will be activated and all death expenses will be paid . Unfortunately, there are many people who do not have a job and do not have businesses, so these people do not pay for this insurance

and when they die, relatives and friends contribute money and pay bills related to death expenses. It's a very sad scenario and this is something that more than 50% of people from third world countries have suffered and I very much doubt this situation will be resolved anytime soon, because with the corrupt and incompetent governments that third world countries like mine has been, the level of development is very slow, unemployment has only increased a lot. In the places where the ceremonies to say goodbye to the deceased are held, people's sad faces are very visible. In my country, it's like that, in places where the dead are, there is no joy and rightly so, why would anyone go and play when someone died? does not make sense

Even as small as €2000 seems, it is still quite a large amount or sum of money here in my country, most especially when converted to our local currency, Its more than enough to condult a moderate burial ceremony, I can tell you for sure that when my dad died, we did not spend up to $1000 for the burial (note I used dollars here not euro, and also note that euro is more expensive than the dollar here in my country).

So, I honestly don't know for sure how other parts of the world go about burial ceremonies of their loved ones, but then, this whole idea of gambling to raise money for burial ceremony still sounds weirld as f**k to me.

Yeah, I've never known gambling to be something or an activity someone who is morning the death of their loved one will want to engage in, gambling is an activity that ordinarily should make people merry, that is; happy, not an activity suitable for a gathering of a death of someone.

But then again, Ive never been out of my country, I don't know how other nations around the world consider or treat the death of a person.

I am not used to such a gambling practice as i have not seen it before happen in my country, but i believe In this kind of gambling practice, there are still chances that the family might lose or raise very small amount of money which still still renders the effort made fruitless. In my country,  people rather raise funds for the family by conducting a fundraising on the day of the funeral or maybe few days to the funeral where friends and well wishers raise money for the bereaved family.

Organising some kind of gambling  during the wake of a funeral will be necessary if it is seen as a means of entertaining the people and create an exciting atmosphere even in the midst of sorrow. Aside this, there are lots of ways to raise funds for a bereaved family without necessarily raising them through gambling.

I guess that's the problem in third world countries because I've been living in a few European countries and you get these expenses covered by social security. There's a special fund that if the person had paid their social security, will pay out a certain amount of money, usually close to 2k EUR. It may not cover the whole cost, but it will help you with the most important things like cost of cremation or coffin, transport and preparation of the body and all that.

I've never heard of that. None of the people I know gamble to raise money for funeral and gambling is not something we do when a person dies. Gambling is treated like meeting with people to play video games, you don't do that to commemorate someone, but rather to laugh and have fun.

I dont know if this one is already that offered on some countries but there's already having those life plans or something that connects out about when you die there's already that having funeral plans or in correlation
to this on which you would really be having no problems when it comes to funeral arrangement or something which the family of the affected ones wont really be having that kind of hardship on expense.
Talking about practically on which the thing you've said is really that actually true on which it is really that indeed too costly i must say. From coffin until those burial then it wont really be that coming cheap.
This is why it would really be understandable that to those families who are sitting on those middle standard or status to poor would be struggling into this situation.

No one really knows on when to die and this is where these kind of plans would really be relevant. It might sound that too bad in our ears but talking practically then this one is really
that something that you could really be able to prepare on.

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations, which are generally somewhat cheaper, but it is not It is bad to do certain activities if you want to raise funds for these expenses, generally where I live some people resort to holding "raffles", whether for cars, motorcycles, many things, the truth is I had not considered it. Poker tournaments could be organized, it is something new where I live, because generally things with gambling where I live have not expressed that taste, although they are very exciting things, but it would be a matter of seeing if it gives good results, then it doesn't matter, that can work, the idea is to be able to have enough funds to Covering those expenses is not bad.

Gambling will always attract the attention of many people, but if you organize something like this you have to be very careful, even in the event that a problem arises, as money is very delicate, fights can occur.

On the other hand, there is indeed a chance to get a win or a big win, which is called a jackpot, but of course this will not happen as we expect. Moreover, we must be aware that gambling will not completely end in victory, if we gamble often, what will happen more often is defeat, not victory, because of course the superiority factor of the host is certain, they will be difficult to beat because they It is the host who created all this and they have also arranged it in such a way that what they plan can produce profits including winning.
We should gamble with the money we can afford, don't gamble beyond our financial capabilities. forcing yourself into gambling is also not recommended, because most likely it will only ruin your life financially. It's true what you said, we have to be able to control ourselves so we don't gamble excessively, because excessive gambling will only make us miserable.

I think the so-called tong won't be enough to support the family who are left by those who died if he is a husband or father who only works in the family but they can be good already to buy a snack that will be offered to those who play gambling during the mourn. You said those who does this already seek permission from the authorities?

So, definitely it's also legal if done in other countries but I think not all countries are doing this, especially the richer ones as they can already afford the snack and other expenses when they have a family member who have died. When there is a tong involved, the games must be true and not for fun only but playing during these events are no doubt more fun because relatives from from far places are gathering and we can as well see lots of different faces in the area.

This is such an interesting cultural rite! I think it's wonderful that there is a means to assist families during such a tough time. It appears to be a financial assistance for the family as well as a sense of community and connection during an agonizing time. And the fact that there are friendly games involved appears to be a welcome distraction during a sad period.

I believe that the sense of connection and connection that this custom provides can be quite beneficial to those who are grieving. Losing a loved one can be extremely isolating, making it difficult to know how to seek assistance. Having a structured event like this could provide an opportunity for people to come together and share their grief, which could be really healing. And the friendly games could provide a sense of normalcy and distraction from the pain of loss.